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Mick 22-03-2019 10:59

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35988117)
What’s the odds of any such Government surviving a vote of no confidence?

Very high - Tories/DUP won't surrender and let Corbyn in No. 10, you're worried about a No deal, just think what it would like with his hard-left gang in there.

Mr K 22-03-2019 11:05

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35988119)
one slight problem... no deal is the default legal position, not something to be voted on....

The EU have been quite crafty with their offer yesterday. It makes no deal by accident or otherwise less likely. We only have to tell them what we're doing next by 12th April if TMs deal fails, the cliff edge could be moved if needs be and legalities quickly changed.

Dave42 22-03-2019 11:06

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35988119)
one slight problem... no deal is the default legal position, not something to be voted on....

never said it wasn't legal default we see what happens next week but we wont be leaving next week since she got new dates

papa smurf 22-03-2019 11:06

Re: Brexit (New).
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35988120)
Very high - Tories/DUP won't surrender and let Corbyn in No. 10, you're worried about a No deal, just think what it would like with his hard-left gang in there.

Looking at their spending plans it would mean about 40 years of hard austerity to resolve the financial mess they would leave behind again.

mrmistoffelees 22-03-2019 11:08

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35988121)
The EU have been quite crafty with their offer yesterday. It makes no deal by accident or otherwise less likely. We only have to tell them what we're doing next by 12th April if TMs deal fails, the cliff edge could be moved if needs be and legalities quickly changed.

True, depends how on stubborn May want's to be, if reports are true that she's become less risk averse to no deal then I'm deeply concerned

Mr K 22-03-2019 11:12

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35988124)
True, depends how on stubborn May want's to be, if reports are true that she's become less risk averse to no deal then I'm deeply concerned

'Reports' designed to try and influence Remainers in next week's vote. However it's just going to encourage the DUP/ERG to vote no. She can't win, rock and a hard place so to speak....

papa smurf 22-03-2019 11:36

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Brexit petition SHAME: Half of signatures in Revoke Article 50 petition are OUTSIDE UK


MORE than half of the 2.7 million names on a record-breaking petition to derail Brexit by revoking Article 50 signed the petition from outside the UK, data on the Government’s Parliamentary website has revealed.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...it-news-latest

Mr K 22-03-2019 11:42

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35988129)
Brexit petition SHAME: Half of signatures in Revoke Article 50 petition are OUTSIDE UK


MORE than half of the 2.7 million names on a record-breaking petition to derail Brexit by revoking Article 50 signed the petition from outside the UK, data on the Government’s Parliamentary website has revealed.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...it-news-latest

Expats have a vote...
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ooms-1-4871596

jfman 22-03-2019 11:47

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35988120)
Very high - Tories/DUP won't surrender and let Corbyn in No. 10, you're worried about a No deal, just think what it would like with his hard-left gang in there.

Why not simply vote against the proposals for MPs to take control?

There’s no way they will both vote to take control then sit idly by and allow Government to sabotage it.

Damien 22-03-2019 11:49

Re: Brexit (New).
 
Government will table statutory instrument to change to exit date on Monday/Tuesday ahead of May's deal vote.

papa smurf 22-03-2019 11:58

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35988131)

So do Chinese and Russian hackers in this instance.

Dave42 22-03-2019 12:02

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35988135)
So do Chinese and Russian hackers in this instance.

but Russian money funding leave campaign ok I guess ?

jfman 22-03-2019 12:06

Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35988133)
Government will table statutory instrument to change to exit date on Monday/Tuesday ahead of May's deal vote.

I wonder which date they will pick?

Damien 22-03-2019 12:31

Re: Brexit (New).
 
Presumably April 12th with May's Deal including the later date if it passes.

---------- Post added at 12:31 ---------- Previous post was at 12:29 ----------

https://twitter.com/BBCkatyaadler/st...60955202338816

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I’m being briefed by a senior source that when the PM stood in front of the 27 EU leaders at summit yesterday “it was almost as if she wanted them to press the button (of a no deal #Brexit) ..
Might explain why the EU give us so many options. They want to ensure we, not they, take responsibility for No Deal. May would rather the EU take the blame.

1andrew1 22-03-2019 12:41

Re: Brexit (New).
 
FT saying that Conservative MPs will expect Theresa May to step down if her deal is not passed.
https://www.ft.com/content/98ec4fc6-...9-6917dce3dc62


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