Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

Can't disagree with that sentiment.

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Have you took part in one of these assessments yourself?.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

Our GP was not asked to complete these forms for both our twins' ESA claims. Neither was he contacted for my son's PIP claim. I know of no-one who had an ESA113 form completed by their GP.

If a GP did complete ESA113 for any claim, you get a copy if you take it to tribunal.

PIP is not about what is wrong with you, but how it affects your life. This is where many people who previously had DLA fall down when applying for PIP. Even though the questions are basically the same, it's how the assessor/DWP consider their weight in your life.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

i'm looking for good advice i don't want to jump in with both barrels empty

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

We all need good advice in life sometimes.;)

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

I think the Government don't trust the GPs to give a true opinion. You hear stories of patients insisting on being prescribed anti-biotics, and the GPS just do it because they don't want any unpleasantness.

When trust breaks down between the government and the professionals, they tend to take sledgehammers to crack nuts.

If only people would do their jobs properly! Or maybe I am being old fashioned! (Agreement not required) :erm:

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This is the tv, Den, and seeing is believing. It's happening. And it's far too easy.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

It would be nice if the Govt. ran a campaign to alert those that should be claiming benefits, but don't. There are far more of these than those cheating the system.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

Den, that link is nothing to do with fraudulent claims, it's about miscalculations by the DWP.

Fraud is a big problem in this area, but unfortunately, this has resulted in genuine claimants having to jump through hoops to receive their entitlements.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

Fraud is not a big problem at all, fraud and error account for less than 2% of spending

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/b...-at-record-low

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

Fraud and error in the benefit system has dropped to the lowest level ever, falling by £350 million last year.

would it sound better if it was on the side of a bus ;)


benefit fraud stands at £1.3 billion

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

£1.3 billion :shocking:. The thieving barstewards. Think of the cycle lanes that could build.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

TV or the written media a easy way to educate the mind or a easy way to fill the mind with uneducated demonising prejudices formed on just a few examples of a very small minority cheating the system as that does not make us a nation of cheating fiddlers but you know that any way OB.

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The vast majority of professions do their job properly as do the vast majority of Joe Public so again yet more hogwash from you OB as again you are forming a opinion from those old prejudiced sources of yours which is really educating that mind of yours.

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Don't often agree with you Mr K but l do here.

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Another staggering statement as you seem to be excelling at that today OB.

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Facts seem to be the enemy of OB today as he will only use facts when it suits his own prejudices.

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Any fraud must be cracked down hard IMO.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

I personally think it'd be better to use percentages, like fraud accounts for 0.8% of the budget, most other departments or some government's even would be delighted to have that figure, of course if your peddling an agenda it's best to ignore percentages in the hope of painting a false picture with big numbers

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Kinda glad they made of with it now

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

That just relates to those they've caught!!

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

that's just trying to hide the fact that £1.300,000,000 is being stolen by cheats not much to be delighted about unless your on the receiving end .

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

I wonder what percentage of the nhs or the foreign aid budgets are being fraudulently pinched or how much we're overpaying private companies to outsource work to.

I think you are making fraudulent claims to with your figures btw