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RichardCoulter 22-01-2015 03:58

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35754390)
The fact is that advertising doesn't add anything to the price of your groceries.

Absolute rubbish. Commercial channels cost you more than the licence fee.

In addition, have a think about all the commercial channels that rely on BBC programming.

andy_m 22-01-2015 06:31

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Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35754394)
Why don't you stop paying it then and just watch/listen to those few programmes on iPlayer and save yourself a fortune :)

I still want to watch other things live so I have to pay the licence fee.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35754400)
Absolute rubbish. Commercial channels cost you more than the licence fee.

In addition, have a think about all the commercial channels that rely on BBC programming.

Rely on, or pay for?

RichardCoulter 22-01-2015 07:11

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35754408)
I still want to watch other things live so I have to pay the licence fee.

Rely on, or pay for?

Both. They have to pay for the material, but without the quality BBC programming being produced in the first place they'd be stuck. All profits from this get ploughed back into making new programmes to help keep the licence fee down.

vincerooney 22-01-2015 08:49

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Whenever nothing ever launches the conversation in here always slowly moves over to the license fee hahah.

Any news on media boys DNP? Did we ever hear about it?

heero_yuy 22-01-2015 10:15

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35754435)
Whenever nothing ever launches the conversation in here always slowly moves over to the license fee hahah.

Perhaps it's a new CF version of Godwins Law. :D

theone2k10 22-01-2015 11:08

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35754412)
Both. They have to pay for the material, but without the quality BBC programming being produced in the first place they'd be stuck. All profits from this get ploughed back into making new programmes to help keep the licence fee down.

You could say it's the other way around too commercial channels make programming for BBC.

Anyway back on topic more international channels are due to launch very soon, no date given yet.
Also i may have a surprise for you all i'm just waiting for conformation on a rumour it's regarding a new movie channel it's all i can say at moment.

heavyside 22-01-2015 11:37

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Does anyone have any news about when the updated BBC iPlayer is coming to TiVo? The one available via smart TVs is way better than the current one available via the red button.

passingbat 22-01-2015 11:54

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35754390)
and produces obviously biased news coverage. That is not public service broadcasting.

It sounds to me as if it's upsetting you because it's not producing 'Andy_m service broadcasting'

I myself watch proportionately little from the BBC, but I believe it is important because it is public service broadcasting; it caters for a wider range of programming, which will often include minority viewership. These programmes wouldn't stand a chance in a commercially based system. Take a lesson from US TV, where critically acclaimed shows are cancelled because they don't bring in the viewing figures to satisfy the advertisers.

Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip is a great show to demonstrate this. The show's story lines demonstrate how viewership figures drive the networks decisions, and the show itself was a victim of the system; it was critically acclaimed but cancelled because the audience wasn't large enough for the advertisers.

OLD BOY 22-01-2015 12:33

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Originally Posted by cj136uk (Post 35754356)
You mean the BBC trust, and or parliament. The bbc isn't the governments

I don't understand the distinction you make.

Clearly, the BBC Trust could make this decision, but I think it is unlikely.

Whilst it is Parliament that will decide what happens, it is the Government that will determine it because it has a majority.

andy_m 22-01-2015 12:54

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35754473)
It sounds to me as if it's upsetting you because it's not producing 'Andy_m service broadcasting'

I myself watch proportionately little from the BBC, but I believe it is important because it is public service broadcasting; it caters for a wider range of programming, which will often include minority viewership. These programmes wouldn't stand a chance in a commercially based system. Take a lesson from US TV, where critically acclaimed shows are cancelled because they don't bring in the viewing figures to satisfy the advertisers.

Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip is a great show to demonstrate this. The show's story lines demonstrate how viewership figures drive the networks decisions, and the show itself was a victim of the system; it was critically acclaimed but cancelled because the audience wasn't large enough for the advertisers.

Did you like Studio 60?

I think we may have just found some common ground!!!

Ultimate.Conj 22-01-2015 12:55

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MB, you have been quiet....Is something big brewing? :-)

Sky Atlantic on VM in time for Fortitude on the 29th?

OLD BOY 22-01-2015 12:58

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35754491)
MB, you have been quiet....Is something big brewing? :-)

Sky Atlantic on VM in time for Fortitude on the 29th?

Don't forget he has a DNP order! ;)

passingbat 22-01-2015 13:04

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35754489)
Did you like Studio 60?

I think we may have just found some common ground!!!

Yes, I saw it when it was first broadcast and recently bought the DVD (withdrawal symptoms after the last ever episode of The Newsroom was broadcast :D)

theone2k10 22-01-2015 13:31

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35754491)
MB, you have been quiet....Is something big brewing? :-)

Sky Atlantic on VM in time for Fortitude on the 29th?

Not going to happen i'm afraid not this year anyway.

Ultimate.Conj 22-01-2015 14:10

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35754504)
Not going to happen i'm afraid not this year anyway.

Nah I don't think it will either, that was the biggest thing I could think of at the time of writing.

I'm not sure what else VM have up their sleeves that would have a DNP in place.


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