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Qtx 14-05-2014 23:19

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They say it's a victim of it's success but the other day I read an article that said the school had received warnings for five different things in the last few years. Can't remember the details exactly but the school appeared to have a number of problems to do with education.

Chris 15-05-2014 08:07

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35698285)
A Guardian journalist was chaperoned around the school for a day and reports all is fine, so that's that.

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on the evidence of a single day and chaperoned by school officials, it looked and felt much like any other state school in England or Wales.
Which conclusion hasn't prevented the Graun from running with an angle that is somewhere between "nothing to see here, move along please" and "won't somebody think of the children!!!11!"

You can always rely on Rusbridger to supply a useful idiot when you need one.

Damien 15-05-2014 08:39

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35698285)
A Guardian journalist was chaperoned around the school for a day and reports all is fine, so that's that.

I don't think the article is suggesting that it's all fine and 'that's that' on the basis of that article. It clearly states they were chaperoned. It is obviously from the side of the people in the school but doesn't pretend not to be nor pretend to be an authoritative investigation into the issue.

I don't see the harm in it. Then again I don't see the harm in the BBC taking a more moderate tone on the story than that of The Telegraph.

Russ 15-05-2014 09:18

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From what I remember in school if there was any kind of inspection being planned, in the days leading up to it everything was tidied, polished, stacked neatly etc....

Ignitionnet 15-05-2014 09:37

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35698335)
I don't think the article is suggesting that it's all fine and 'that's that' on the basis of that article. It clearly states they were chaperoned. It is obviously from the side of the people in the school but doesn't pretend not to be nor pretend to be an authoritative investigation into the issue.

Which for me begs the question of why it's in a newspaper. There is extensive, cautious use of language to avoid presenting opinions as facts however the overall tone is that the DfE, and those reporting on it all are victimising the school for doing well. This is absurd and the piece utterly ignores the mounting evidence of issues in the school.

I mean for heaven's sake, he published a denial from the governor that there was anything up without any criticism or balance. This guy co-wrote a paper on Islamising secular schools in the UK a few years back and the presence of an extremist-linked preacher was advertised in the school's own newsletter.

The mockery that the piece faces from most of the comments shows just how ridiculous this piece is. It rather justifies the accusations against this newspaper and indeed the BBC over selective reporting, obsessive ignorance of any issues with 'multiculturalism' and pandering to a 'metropolitan elite'.

It should be noted Gilligan presents what he says in his column as facts and the school, etc, can most certainly make complaints and in the case of individuals take him to court for libel, just as was done over his coverage of Tower Hamlets which was so roundly condemned by people like Mehdi Hasan alongside Guardianistas who accused him of Islamophobia.

Shedloads of complaints came in, the evidence won, Gilligan gets to continue describing Lutfur Rahman as linked to extremists despite Mehdi thinking Rahman is awesome.

The writer of this piece incidentally seems quite convinced from his tour that the school is 'good'.

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This is supposed to be the Grauniad's education man. Can you seriously take a newspaper seriously if it happily regurgitates things which are provably false because they follow its own agenda?

It's like the Daily Mail thrown into reverse and put on steroids.

Gary L 15-05-2014 09:41

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35698345)
From what I remember in school if there was any kind of inspection being planned, in the days leading up to it everything was tidied, polished, stacked neatly etc....

I know. they do the same on my road. everytime the Queen's coming through. they cut the grass and have a big tidy up.

Ignitionnet 15-05-2014 09:45

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35697007)
It used to be Reds under the bed..then it was the IRA..and now it's Islamists.;)

Surely you mean Islamophobes? ;)

Qtx 15-05-2014 09:54

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The Guardian and BBC are just as biased (but on the other side of the fence) as the DailyMail when it comes to Islam, immigration, homosexuality and other subjects.

Maggy 15-05-2014 10:23

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35698356)
Surely you mean Islamophobes? ;)

No! I typed what I meant..and it's just been a way for various media outlets to pursue agendas that get them the highest financial reward by pandering to the Islamophobes..and to those who are on the opposing libertarian side

There may well have been a plot or there may not..but it has to be said that the media will profit long after the investigation finishes whatever the outcome.They will just move on to the next Islamist issue to highlight, whichever side of the debate they are on.

Damien 15-05-2014 10:31

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When is the report out anyway? Apparently it's going to be bad.

---------- Post added at 11:31 ---------- Previous post was at 11:29 ----------

Also whatever happened to the infamous 'letter'?

Ignitionnet 15-05-2014 10:45

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35698381)
No! I typed what I meant..and it's just been a way for various media outlets to pursue agendas that get them the highest financial reward by pandering to the Islamophobes..and to those who are on the opposing libertarian side

There may well have been a plot or there may not..but it has to be said that the media will profit long after the investigation finishes whatever the outcome.They will just move on to the next Islamist issue to highlight, whichever side of the debate they are on.

Show me the massive negative media coverage of this or Tower Hamlets council's woes, please.

TheDaddy 15-05-2014 12:06

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35698381)
No! I typed what I meant..and it's just been a way for various media outlets to pursue agendas that get them the highest financial reward by pandering to the Islamophobes..and to those who are on the opposing libertarian side

There may well have been a plot or there may not..but it has to be said that the media will profit long after the investigation finishes whatever the outcome.They will just move on to the next Islamist issue to highlight, whichever side of the debate they are on.

The next issue

Maggy 15-05-2014 13:00

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35698390)
Show me the massive negative media coverage of this or Tower Hamlets council's woes, please.

Sadly the only place I've read anything about that was in the last issue of Private Eye.Apparently the only source of journalistic endeavors at present.;)

Damien 15-05-2014 13:06

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35698441)
Sadly the only place I've read anything about that was in the last issue of Private Eye.Apparently the only source of journalistic endeavors at present.;)

Which one? The current one or the one before?

Maggy 15-05-2014 13:15

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35698445)
Which one? The current one or the one before?

issue 1364 18 April -1st May. Rotten Boroughs.


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