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Jameseh 17-07-2011 19:07

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35274621)
No it was not meant as a joke just trying to point out what could happen if one provider got all the rights?

Nothing. Sky have owned all Premier League rights before, UFC might be a problem with their WWE deal, WRC would go along with their current motorsport, FA Cup would be a first...

Sky have always had a monopoly over sport so I doubt Ofcom could have much input otherwise they'd be contradicting themselves.

devilincarnate 17-07-2011 19:09

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35274627)
Nothing. Sky have owned all Premier League rights before, UFC might be a problem with their WWE deal, WRC would go along with their current motorsport, FA Cup would be a first...

Sky have always had a monopoly over sport so I doubt Ofcom could have much input otherwise they'd be contradicting themselves.

The EC took SKY too book over the football rights and they could if this all transpired?

Jameseh 17-07-2011 19:11

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35274631)
The EC took SKY too book over the football rights and they could if this all transpired?

European Council? I don't know. Maybe they'd let it pass if they kept ESPN separate and continued selling both on Virgin/BT/Top Up/etc as they do now.

Never say never 17-07-2011 19:12

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35274616)
More of a joke really, I'm sure ESPN would rather keep their brand name over here and also they can charge for both SS and ESPN.

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ESPN is owned by Disney, by buying Sky Disney would get all the sports rights that Sky own.

Disney want ESPN to be the worlds biggest sports channel, so if anything happened I would imagine Skysports would become ESPN branded.

Also Disney has a nice image but they're as ruthless as Newscorps in the business.

devilincarnate 17-07-2011 19:15

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35274633)
European Council? I don't know. Maybe they'd let it pass if they kept ESPN separate and continued selling both on Virgin/BT/Top Up/etc as they do now.

I have not looked in to the law that was passed that much and what it envelopes. So can not tell you fully? But I think that it is one company owns it they would not be able to?

I need to look at the law on this?

Never say never 17-07-2011 19:18

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35274638)
I have not looked in to the law that was passed that much and what it envelopes. So can not tell you fully? But I think that it is one company owns it they would not be able to?

I need to look at the law on this?

I think 1 company can own all the football rights but must offer it out at fair market value to other providers. The price is tied in to how much they charge there own customers.

So they can't charge there own customers £20 a month but sell it to other providers for £35 a month.there by forcing other providers to re-sell at £35 just to break even.

Jameseh 17-07-2011 19:19

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Originally Posted by Never say never (Post 35274635)
Disney want ESPN to be the worlds biggest sports channel, so if anything happened I would imagine Skysports would become ESPN branded.

No way in hell would Sky Sports become ESPN. The word 'Sky' when referring to sports on (UK) TV is like 'iPod' to MP3 players.

Never say never 17-07-2011 19:21

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35274643)
No way in hell would Sky Sports become ESPN. The word 'Sky' when referring to sports on (UK) TV is like 'iPod' to MP3 players.


How wrong are you, the word Sky is like ipod when referring to FOOTBALL maybe.

But I enjoy a lot of sport and ESPN,ITV ,Eurosport and the BBC a very important in my viewing.

Jameseh 17-07-2011 19:25

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BBC and ITV show cup finals. Football is the biggest sport in the UK and I'd imagine at the very least 80% of people with Sky Sports have it for the football especially since it dominates the listings.

ESPN in the UK is the little niche american sports channel with a handful of premier league games and other drastically less popular sports.

If this goes through and Sky Sports gets changed to ESPN, I'l buy a hat from eBay and eat it.

Never say never 17-07-2011 19:27

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35274649)
BBC and ITV show cup finals. Football is the biggest sport in the UK and I'd imagine at the very least 80% of people with Sky Sports have it for the football especially since it dominates the listings.

ESPN in the UK is the little niche american sports channel with a handful of premier league games and other drastically less popular sports.

If this goes through and Sky Sports gets changed to ESPN, I'l buy a hat from eBay and eat it.

Well that your opinion, but in my home ESPN AmericaHD is watched a hell of a lot, as is Eurosport.

Like I said I'm a sports fan, not a just a football fan. Have you enjoyed today's golf on the BBC? I DID. Or the tour de france? On ITV4HD and Eurosport?

Jameseh 17-07-2011 19:31

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Originally Posted by Never say never (Post 35274651)
Well that your opinion, but in my home ESPN AmericaHD is watched a hell of a lot, as is Eurosport.

Like I said I'm a sports fan, not a just a football fan.

I wouldn't really say the majority of Sky Sports viewers are there for Premier League football is an opinion. Plus you might watch ESPN America (as do I) but its firmly a second-tier brand of sport channel in the UK to the majority.

Never say never 17-07-2011 19:33

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35274654)
I wouldn't really say the majority of Sky Sports viewers are there for Premier League football is an opinion. Plus you might watch ESPN America (as do I) but its firmly a second-tier brand of sport channel in the UK to the majority.

So back to the original point, Disney really would love to buy Sky if only fo rthe sports rights.

jtaylor06 17-07-2011 19:35

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This guy seems familiar?

Jameseh 17-07-2011 19:35

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I'd annoy film studios to no end knowing that their rival is the main handler of their content in the UK I guess. Channel 4 better be hoping so.

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Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35274659)
This guy seems familiar?

The name, the registration date, the fact whatever he (or she) does is different from the majority on CABLEforum and er, 'debating' with myself does seem similar but its all in good spirit I hope.

howardmicks 17-07-2011 20:34

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Come on branson get yer bid in,That would really put the cat amongst the pigeons lol


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