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Chrysalis 13-05-2011 23:08

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35236078)
Where are you getting this information that VM have dumped Netgear ?

Why do I get asked questions when the source of my information is this very forum?

In another thread it was mentioned VM have started procedures to change the supplier of the superhub and ben then acknowledged it. Thats how i seen it, and since then other people have made the same comment I have made in this thread without challenge from yourself or ben. So if you disputing it now not sure why you have waited a number of days to do so.

Nopanic 13-05-2011 23:11

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35236082)
Have I misunderstood you when you confirmed this in an earlier post?

I'm involved with the creation of new devices and as far as I am aware Netgear are still firmly in place.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35236086)
Why do I get asked questions when the source of my information is this very forum?

In another thread it was mentioned VM have started procedures to change the supplier of the superhub and ben then acknowledged it. Thats how i seen it, and since then other people have made the same comment I have made in this thread without challenge from yourself or ben. So if you disputing it now not sure why you have waited a number of days to do so.

I did, when Ignitionnet first said it..

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...l#post35232273

BenMcr 13-05-2011 23:11

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35236086)
Why do I get asked questions when the source of my information is this very forum?

In another thread it was mentioned VM have started procedures to change the supplier of the superhub and ben then acknowledged it. Thats how i seen it, and since then other people have made the same comment I have made in this thread without challenge from yourself or ben. So if you disputing it now not sure why you have waited a number of days to do so.

It's NOT replacing Netgear.

It's called Dual Vendor i.e getting Netgear and someone else to supply SuperHubs at the same time (pretty sure I've said this a few times earlier in the discussions)

Nopanic 13-05-2011 23:13

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35236090)
It's NOT replacing Netgear.

It's called Dual Vendor i.e getting Netgear and someone else to supply SuperHubs at the same time

I'm not sure how much we can talk about it .. thus, no comments from me other than to dispute the removal of Netgear.

Chrysalis 13-05-2011 23:14

Re: Vmng300
 
here.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35233241-post170.html
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35232979-post161.html
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35232982-post162.html

Combined with the numerous postings that you only have one supplier at once. I concluded its been dumped, or are you going to have 2 suppliers for the superhubs breakng historical trend?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35236090)
It's NOT replacing Netgear.

It's called Dual Vendor i.e getting Netgear and someone else to supply SuperHubs at the same time (pretty sure I've said this a few times earlier in the discussions)

thanks for clearing that up, you should have done so earlier because in the last 2 days there has been more than a dozen posts on it and you didnt dispute any of them until mine. So they not dumped but I am still wondering why VM have felt the need to go dual vendor when previously they have been happy with one.

BenMcr 13-05-2011 23:16

Re: Vmng300
 
So where in any of those posts have I said Virgin are dumping Netgear

Quote:

Combined with the numerous postings that you only have one supplier at once. I concluded its been dumped, or are you going to have 2 suppliers for the superhubs breakng historical trend?
I said you've never been able to choose the kit you are supplied with, don't think I said anything about Virgin not having more than one supplier

Nopanic 13-05-2011 23:18

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35236092)
here.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35233241-post170.html
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35232979-post161.html
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35232982-post162.html

Combined with the numerous postings that you only have one supplier at once. I concluded its been dumped, or are you going to have 2 suppliers for the superhubs breakng historical trend?

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thanks for clearing that up, you should have done so earlier because in the last 2 days there has been more than a dozen posts on it and you didnt dispute any of them until mine. So they not dumped but I am still wondering why VM have felt the need to go dual vendor when previously they have been happy with one.

It makes business sense to have two, otherwise Netgear will control VMs ability to offer Broadband ..

Chrysalis 13-05-2011 23:21

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35236096)
It makes business sense to have two, otherwise Netgear will control VMs ability to offer Broadband ..

I agree and was a basis of my argument to have kept the vmng300s alongside the superhubs. The curiosity remains tho as it looks from here this 2nd vendor wasnt in the drawing board from day 1.

BenMcr 13-05-2011 23:22

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35236092)
you should have done so earlier

I did

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35235100-post233.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35235100)
It's called not putting all your eggs in one basket. By having two suppliers it means Virgin are less likely to run short at any stage due to supply chain issues


Chrysalis 13-05-2011 23:24

Re: Vmng300
 
I seen that post but took it as meaning having new superhubs alongside ones already shipped to customers.

BenMcr 13-05-2011 23:24

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35236097)
I agree and was a basis of my argument to have kept the vmng300s alongside the superhubs. The curiosity remains tho as it looks from here this 2nd vendor wasnt in the drawing board from day 1.

Yes they were

Once again, before the Hubs were introduced the biggest complaint point was broadband wireless setup, due to having to not only activate the modem, but plug in the router and configure it. Usually something wouldn't work requiring a call in, and negative customer feedback

The SuperHubs have reduced those complaints signficantly.

The issues that have occured are unfortunately, but are being resolved. Long term the Hubs do what they were designed to do.

Welshchris 13-05-2011 23:57

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35236100)
Yes they were

Once again, before the Hubs were introduced the biggest complaint point was broadband wireless setup, due to having to not only activate the modem, but plug in the router and configure it. Usually something wouldn't work requiring a call in, and negative customer feedback

The SuperHubs have reduced those complaints signficantly.

The issues that have occured are unfortunately, but are being resolved. Long term the Hubs do what they were designed to do.

and since the introduction of the hub the biggest complaint is the device itself. I bet Virgin get a lot more calls and complaints about the hub than people ringing for help on wireless setups.

GrimUpNorth 14-05-2011 06:50

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35236095)
So where in any of those posts have I said Virgin are dumping Netgear

I said you've never been able to choose the kit you are supplied with, don't think I said anything about Virgin not having more than one supplier

You didn't use the word 'dumping' but from previous posts it could be taken that you are implying something similar:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35200375-post111.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35200375)
Generally they haven't actually

Virgin may have installed different kit e.g Pace STBs or Samsung STBs but have only had one active contract with a vendor in place at any one time. Any alternates would have already been within the business

I'm certainly not, however I've been in business long enough to know roughly how the process works

Anyway don't want to fall out - you offer good advice to many people, but sometimes it better to say nothing as those of us looking for hidden meanings can find them even if there are none there :D

Cheers
Grim

_wtf_ 14-05-2011 07:58

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35236096)
It makes business sense to have two, otherwise Netgear will control VMs ability to offer Broadband ..

That makes perfect sense BUT why wait several months between the first being released and the second almost being announced?

The VMNG300 was around what 4 years(?) what was the other one at this time?

Nopanic 14-05-2011 08:51

Re: Vmng300
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35236097)
I agree and was a basis of my argument to have kept the vmng300s alongside the superhubs. The curiosity remains tho as it looks from here this 2nd vendor wasnt in the drawing board from day 1.

It was, it's been part of the project from the beginning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _wtf_ (Post 35236153)
That makes perfect sense BUT why wait several months between the first being released and the second almost being announced?

The VMNG300 was around what 4 years(?) what was the other one at this time?

The Ambit 256 was the modem of choice and the VMNG for 50Mb only, the Superhub development was longer than expected and was married in with the 30Mb release. It needed to be safely in place before this was announced.

There were also a number of other modems, the ECP, 5100, etc ..


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