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Mr K 28-11-2025 18:35
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36207099)
the size of a black hole of this type is proportionate to the amount of bull shyte they shovel into it
The black hole does exist. It's just south of Grimsby ;)

Sephiroth 28-11-2025 18:54
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Black holes never/cannot contract. SHit Creek nix paddle.

Pierre 28-11-2025 19:21
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36207094)
Thats just as vague as before, which parts ?
I don’t have to detail which parts.

Hey, if you’re happy with everything and think the government is spending your tax properly(btw due to this budget, I’ll be paying £5K more at the end of it) and there’s no waste and no savings to be made.

Then fine. I’m happy for you.

Hugh 28-11-2025 20:15
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36207102)
Black holes never/cannot contract. SHit Creek nix paddle.
Not saying that the Black Hole metaphor has been overextended in the last few posts, but it’s been stretched so far that it’s created an Einstein-Rosen Bridge and any sense has been transported through a wormhole to another part of the Universe… ;)

Carth 28-11-2025 20:36
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What a load of Quark ;)

Hugh 28-11-2025 21:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36207106)
What a load of Quark ;)
Charm-ing, and yet full of Strangeness…

Elementary, my dear Schwartzchild.

Paul 28-11-2025 21:25
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36207103)
I don’t have to detail which parts.

Hey, if you’re happy with everything and think the government is spending your tax properly(btw due to this budget, I’ll be paying £5K more at the end of it) and there’s no waste and no savings to be made.

Then fine. I’m happy for you.
What you mean is you have no idea, so instead you try to deflect the question by making up nonsense, nice try, but no one fooled.

Pierre 28-11-2025 22:23
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36207109)
What you mean is you have no idea, so instead you try to deflect the question by making up nonsense, nice try, but no one fooled.
<Removed>

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Pierre 14-12-2025 21:12
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Violence against women a national emergency, Mahmood says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj69w7kezdzo

Well…….

Maybe don’t import rapists, that would be a start.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...rrer=deep-link

Paul 14-12-2025 23:48
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A National Emergency ? What a Drama Queen.

Carth 15-12-2025 01:50
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Quote from that Mahmood article posted by Pierre

Quote:
Shabana Mahmood said that during her time in government she had come to "the depressing conclusion" that "the criminal justice system fails women".
Crikey, is it just me that thinks the criminal justice system is failing everybody, not just women?

papa smurf 23-12-2025 13:20
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
screech

u turn alert



Government waters down inheritance tax plan for farms


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e9n3y28g1o

1andrew1 23-12-2025 15:05
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36208120)
screech

u turn alert

Government waters down inheritance tax plan for farms

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e9n3y28g1o
A sernsible decision but the whole thing has obviously been very poorly handled.

nomadking 23-12-2025 15:16
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208124)
A sernsible decision but the whole thing has obviously been very poorly handled.
Why should this have been any different to everything else they do?
Too many knee-jerk quick fixes without thinking them through. They had years to prepare before being elected, so why didn't they?

Sirius 23-12-2025 16:12
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
This clown-fest of a Government has no idea how to run the country, now they will need to find a way of replacing that money from there latest u turn and guess who they will crap on to get it.

1andrew1 23-12-2025 16:19
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36208125)
Why should this have been any different to everything else they do?
Too many knee-jerk quick fixes without thinking them through. They had years to prepare before being elected, so why didn't they?
Dunno, what do you think?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36208126)
This clown-fest of a Government has no idea how to run the country, now they will need to find a way of replacing that money from there latest u turn and guess who they will crap on to get it.
I think the government were accused of raising too much money in the Budget to give themselves a bit of leeway so this should be ok. Mortgage rates are down as is inflation so two positives there to balance the negatives of growth (lack of) and the unemployment rate.

Carth 23-12-2025 18:00
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208127)

I think the government were accused of raising too much money in the Budget to give themselves a bit of leeway so this should be ok. Mortgage rates are down as is inflation so two positives there to balance the negatives of growth (lack of) and the unemployment rate.
Until they pay the Junior Doctors ransom

papa smurf 23-12-2025 18:34
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36208135)
Until they pay the Junior Doctors ransom
I'm glad you said ransom cos blackmail is such an ugly word

Paul 23-12-2025 19:05
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Ah yes, so poorly paid they can afford to keep going on strike :dozey:

1andrew1 08-01-2026 14:38
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U-turn alert!
Quote:
U-turn over business rates hike for pubs expected in coming days, Sky News understands

Sky News deputy political editor Sam Coates has been looking into the potential risk to the hospitality sector with upcoming business rate hikes.

A variety of factors, including revaluations and the ending of COVID-era support, means hospitality venues are seeing their bills potentially set to rise by more than a 100% in the coming years.

Sam has now heard that a rescue package that could help with this is coming in the next few days - but only for pubs.

This leaves others, like hotels, potentially exposed to the uplifts.

As Sam mentioned on this morning's Politics at Sam and Anne's, it poses a big political headache for the prime minister and the chancellor.

It comes as Sam revealed earlier this week that there was "ongoing cabinet-level opposition" to the hike.

"Rachel Reeves' colleagues are not happy about it," he said.
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-nato-12593360

Sirius 08-01-2026 19:00
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208629)
So yet another u turn from Labour :LOL:

Pierre 08-01-2026 19:12
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U Turn on Pub rates

U Turn on winter fuel allowance

U Turn on Waspi Women

U Turn on Farm inheritance tax

U Turn on Welfare Reform

U Turn on Grooming Gang enquiry (though I still doubt it will actually happen)

No conviction.

Did I miss any others?

Sirius 08-01-2026 20:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36208641)
U Turn on Pub rates

U Turn on winter fuel allowance

U Turn on Waspi Women

U Turn on Farm inheritance tax

U Turn on Welfare Reform

U Turn on Grooming Gang enquiry (though I still doubt it will actually happen)

No conviction.

Did I miss any others?
Expect the big one, U turn on brexit :D

Hugh 08-01-2026 20:41
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36208642)
Expect the big one, U turn on brexit :D
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/01/2.gif

;)

Sephiroth 08-01-2026 20:55
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Oh dear.

Mr K 08-01-2026 21:17
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Its the public that have u turned on Brexit, now they've seen the result.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...26Sv94TzM1SmNH

Paul 08-01-2026 21:25
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
I'm not sure a change of 10% actually counts as a U turn.

Carth 09-01-2026 03:04
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36208650)
I'm not sure a change of 10% actually counts as a U turn.
Love all this statistical crap - taken from that linked survey page:

Survey time period
January 2020 to June 2025

Number of respondents
2,239

. . and there you have it . . 2,239 people . . statistics are brill aren't they :D

Hugh 09-01-2026 08:53
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
If you understand how they work* - yes...

https://publications.parliament.uk/p.../106/10616.htm

*their methodology and limitations

Damien 09-01-2026 09:44
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Brexit opinion is changing in part because, being morbid, people are dying, and few Remain voters are changing their mind.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36208641)
U Turn on Pub rates

U Turn on winter fuel allowance

U Turn on Waspi Women

U Turn on Farm inheritance tax

U Turn on Welfare Reform

U Turn on Grooming Gang enquiry (though I still doubt it will actually happen)

No conviction.

Did I miss any others?
Farm inheritance tax U-turn hasn't done them any good either because it didn't exempt the richest ones who've been leading the charge.

Mr K 09-01-2026 17:09
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36208662)
Farm inheritance tax U-turn hasn't done them any good either because it didn't exempt the richest ones who've been leading the charge.
Farming was seen as a nice tax loop hole for the likes of Clarkson and Dyson. Tax away, they can afford it. Their financial advisers will have to find another scam.

1andrew1 12-01-2026 00:18
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interesting choice of mayoral candidate for London from Reform. Tough on law breakers?

Quote:
Reform’s candidate for London mayor broke companies law

Laila Cunningham, who says the capital is in the grip of a crime wave, has had several businesses struck off

Laila Cunningham, 48, has been heralded as an “enormously talented, successful woman” by Nigel Farage, the Reform leader, who this week unveiled her as a candidate for the 2028 poll.

The lawyer, who launched her bid by claiming that London is “in the grip of a crime wave”, has repeatedly fallen foul of UK company rules in her own business life.

Records show that three companies, either owned by Cunningham or in which she served as a director, were struck off by Companies House for apparently failing to file required documents.

Failing to file company accounts is a criminal offence under UK law and while directors can be prosecuted this action is rarely taken.

The businesses include a female co-working app started by Cunningham in 2017 and a business selling magnesium and menthol-infused roll-on lotion.

Cunningham, a Muslim mother of seven, is seen as a rising star within Farage’s party. She is currently a councillor in the wealthy Lancaster Gate ward in Westminster.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics...-law-bv70zcj3p

However, it's her religion which is not going down well with some on the right.
Quote:
Dan Wootton, for instance, the far-right online broadcaster who had to leave GB News after Lawrence Fox made sexually offensive comments on Wootton’s show, complained that:

“Reform UK have capitulated to Islamists. Picking the Muslim Laila Cunningham to battle Sadiq Khan to become Mayor of London is deeply depressing”.
https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026...yor-candidate/

Anonymouse 14-01-2026 02:45
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STOP THE PRESS! Some good news for once!

According to the Metro, IDs will now NOT be mandatory!

U-turns are more of a pattern now with Starmer, aren't they? The Metro says this is his 13th. Seems those 3,000,000+ signatures, including MINE, did some good after all!

papa smurf 14-01-2026 10:16
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36208927)
STOP THE PRESS! Some good news for once!

According to the Metro, IDs will now NOT be mandatory!

U-turns are more of a pattern now with Starmer, aren't they? The Metro says this is his 13th. Seems those 3,000,000+ signatures, including MINE, did some good after all!
the leader of the U- TURN party has been branded spineless

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-nato-12593360

Paul 14-01-2026 16:53
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That link seems to be to many stories, I think this is the relevant one

Quote:
Sir Keir Starmer has U-turned on plans for mandatory digital ID cards for workers - marking his government's 13th U-turn after just 18 months in office, which is one every six weeks on average.

At the time it was announced last year, the government said that digital IDs would become mandatory for the right to work by the end of this parliament - which is 2029.

But Sky News understands this will no longer be the case - leading the Tories to brand him "spineless", and the Lib Dems to joke that he must be "bulk ordering motion sickness tablets".

heero_yuy 14-01-2026 19:08
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So many U-turns the smell of burning rubber permeates the commons

Carth 14-01-2026 19:40
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He's just ensuring that his autobiography (when written and published) will have enough content to cover at least 50 pages ;)

papa smurf 14-01-2026 21:06
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36208961)
He's just ensuring that his autobiography (when written and published) will have enough content to cover at least 50 pages ;)

Circling the drain -the Kier Starmer story of lies and u turns

Paul 15-01-2026 00:10
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
It must be hard after 13 to know what direction you're even going, to do yet another turn.

papa smurf 15-01-2026 09:59
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36208970)
It must be hard after 13 to know what direction you're even going, to do yet another turn.
it's like in the old days when you're going on holiday and your wife is reading the map :erm::Sprint:

thenry 15-01-2026 13:28
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Quote:
Labour has sparked a new rift with Donald Trump's administration after a prominent right-wing commentator was banned from entering the UK.

Eva Vlaardingerbroek had her visa revoked by the Home Office after it deemed her presence not to be "conducive to the public good".

https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/la...aardingerbroek
:rolleyes: was Rishi Sunak good for the public prior to democracy kicking him out?

Anywho

Quote:
"I would love to be the new Nigel Farage"
:LOL: a parrot?

1andrew1 15-01-2026 13:35
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36208970)
It must be hard after 13 to know what direction you're even going, to do yet another turn.
It's in danger of becoming a unit of measurement "Hurry whilst stocks last! Only 13 more U-turns before Christmas!" ;)

Carth 15-01-2026 14:39
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208985)
It's in danger of becoming a unit of measurement "Hurry whilst stocks last! Only 13 more U-turns before Christmas!" ;)
Massive U Turn sale now on, buy one, get 12 free

Sirius 15-01-2026 17:51
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36208974)
it's like in the old days when you're going on holiday and your wife is reading the map :erm::Sprint:
Or allowing an officer to hold a map in the military.

Anonymouse 16-01-2026 10:55
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36208961)
He's just ensuring that his autobiography (when written and published) will have enough content to cover at least 50 pages ;)
As many as that? :p:

Carth 16-01-2026 11:04
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36209082)
As many as that? :p:
Yep . . if written using large font :D

Sephiroth 16-01-2026 11:20
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
All - please remember: Starmer is the true enemy.

Hugh 16-01-2026 11:51
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209087)
All - please remember: Starmer is the true enemy.
I would put Putin above him, but you be you…

Carth 16-01-2026 14:07
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
The enemy of my enemy is . . . just another enemy ;)

Sephiroth 16-01-2026 14:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209091)
I would put Putin above him, but you be you…
Get your priorities right, Sir.

---------- Post added at 13:22 ---------- Previous post was at 13:21 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36209092)
The enemy of my enemy is . . . just another enemy ;)
So - where does that place Farage in your pecking order? LOL.

papa smurf 16-01-2026 14:56
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209093)
Get your priorities right, Sir.

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So - where does that place Farage in your pecking order? LOL.
The pub

Carth 16-01-2026 15:46
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
aahh yes, the pub.

Along with the Taxi, it's where all the Worlds problems were put right :D

1andrew1 16-01-2026 17:58
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209087)
All - please remember: Starmer is the true enemy.
Thank you for your post comrade. It is mimus 12 here.

Ivan.

Sephiroth 16-01-2026 18:08
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209111)
Thank you for your post comrade. It is mimus 12 here.

Ivan.
Why did you write that, Andrew?

1andrew1 16-01-2026 19:13
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209113)
Why did you write that, Andrew?
A light-hearted reminder that whilst Starmer may be an incompetent politician with more U-turns to his name than a black cab, he is not the enemy. ;)

Sephiroth 16-01-2026 19:24
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209118)
A light-hearted reminder that whilst Starmer may be an incompetent politician with more U-turns to his name than a black cab, he is not the enemy. ;)
But he really is the enemy. He and his chancellor are destroying the UK.

Reeves tells lie after lie about her prime mission to grow the economy when, right before our eyes, she is doing her best to bust the country.

Never mind Putin - he's everyone's enemy. Starmer is the enemy.

Carth 16-01-2026 20:31
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I find it works well for me if I class everyone as my enemy . . . at least there's no friends to stab you in the back :rofl:

Mr K 16-01-2026 20:37
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209119)
But he really is the enemy. He and his chancellor are destroying the UK.

Reeves tells lie after lie about her prime mission to grow the economy when, right before our eyes, she is doing her best to bust the country.

Never mind Putin - he's everyone's enemy. Starmer is the enemy.
I'd stick to Pernod. A preferable drink to whatever you're on this evening.

The UKs troubles long predate this Government. Its been downhill since 2010, accerated in 2016 , thanks to populists and the gullible electorate. . Turning it round will take decades.

Sirius 16-01-2026 21:47
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209118)
A light-hearted reminder that whilst Starmer may be an incompetent politician with more U-turns to his name than a black cab, he is not the enemy. ;)
He is to me

papa smurf 16-01-2026 22:00
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36209137)
He is to me

he's definitely the enemy

Damien 16-01-2026 22:22
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
He is just useless. I think very few citizens of this country are literally our enemy. I seriously dislike Farage, but he isn't the enemy. I would leave that description to literal traitors, people who want to overthrow our democracy, terrorists and the like. People who try to change things democratically are not our enemies.

Sephiroth 16-01-2026 22:32
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36209139)
He is just useless. I think very few citizens of this country are literally our enemy. I seriously dislike Farage, but he isn't the enemy. I would leave that description to literal traitors, people who want to overthrow our democracy, terrorists and the like. People who try to change things democratically are not our enemies.
..... as in postponing democratic elections on the "plausible" pretext of local government reorganisation.

Mr K 16-01-2026 23:00
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209140)
..... as in postponing democratic elections on the "plausible" pretext of local government reorganisation.
A bit like redrawing electoral boundaries like the last Govt did (not that it did them any good).

Sephiroth 16-01-2026 23:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36209141)
A bit like redrawing electoral boundaries like the last Govt did (not that it did them any good).
The two are not comparable. The GE vote took place with the new boundaries and the Tories lost. Now, in local elections, several million people are being disenfranchised.

Even if your proposition is valid, that does not excuse what Labour is doing now.

1andrew1 17-01-2026 00:15
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209143)
The two are not comparable. The GE vote took place with the new boundaries and the Tories lost. Now, in local elections, several million people are being disenfranchised.

Even if your proposition is valid, that does not excuse what Labour is doing now.
It's a waste of tax payers' money to hold elections in councils that will soon be abolished. It's just cheap politics to claim otherwise.

papa smurf 17-01-2026 10:28
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209144)
It's a waste of tax payers' money to hold elections in councils that will soon be abolished. It's just cheap politics to claim otherwise.
especially in the ones that Reform are about to win

Sephiroth 17-01-2026 10:37
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209144)
It's a waste of tax payers' money to hold elections in councils that will soon be abolished. It's just cheap politics to claim otherwise.
I'm surprised that you, of all people, should put a price on democracy.

papa smurf 17-01-2026 11:46
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209154)
I'm surprised that you, of all people, should put a price on democracy.
have you forgotten the "peoples vote" idea, put out by democracy deniers

1andrew1 17-01-2026 15:17
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209154)
I'm surprised that you, of all people, should put a price on democracy.
I don't see it as an attack on democracy. I'm a little surprised to see you promoting profligate spending. Your belief in democracy is better served by advocating for MPs and councillors who switch parties mid term to stand for re-election if one is not close.

OLD BOY 17-01-2026 16:20
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209144)
It's a waste of tax payers' money to hold elections in councils that will soon be abolished. It's just cheap politics to claim otherwise.
They didn’t cancel elections when we had the 1972 local government reorganisation.

Starmer is doing this to keep out Reform UK.

Sephiroth 17-01-2026 17:10
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209160)
I don't see it as an attack on democracy. I'm a little surprised to see you promoting profligate spending. Your belief in democracy is better served by advocating for MPs and councillors who switch parties mid term to stand for re-election if one is not close.
Nothing you've said is conducive to democracy. Democracy has no price. Switching parties and other shenanigans of that sort, political bickering, do not defeat democracy in the same way as denying the people their rightful vote.

It cannot be "profligate spending" to hold elections on a due date.

nomadking 17-01-2026 17:19
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36209141)
A bit like redrawing electoral boundaries like the last Govt did (not that it did them any good).
The Government doesn't redraw boundaries, the Boundary Commission does.

Carth 17-01-2026 18:16
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36209172)
The Government doesn't redraw boundaries, the Boundary Commission does.
What colour crayons are they using this time?

Sirius 17-01-2026 19:32
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209168)
They didn’t cancel elections when we had the 1972 local government reorganisation.

Starmer is doing this to keep out Reform UK.
It's simple, he's running scared. To be honest i think he needs to be more worried about those close to him in his own party.

Sephiroth 23-01-2026 21:14
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Starmer has just pulled the Chagos Bill.

Don't have time to post the reference, but I got it just now from the Torygraph. Sorry.

papa smurf 23-01-2026 21:37
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36209529)
Starmer has just pulled the Chagos Bill.

Don't have time to post the reference, but I got it just now from the Torygraph. Sorry.
On a Friday when parliament is closed what a weak nob this man is


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...nds-deal-trump

Sir Keir Starmer has been forced into a dramatic U-turn over his Chagos Islands bill following furious backlash from Donald Trump.

The legislation, to hand sovereignty of the islands to Mauritius, was set to be debated in the House of Lords on Monday, but it was delayed on Friday after the Conservatives warned that the deal could violate a 1966 treaty with the US. The Tories tabled a motion in the House of Lords on Friday morning to delay any ratification of the treaty, so they could conclude discussions and avoid breaching international law.

Paul 23-01-2026 22:36
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Keir Starmer has delayed the Chagos Islands Bill from progressing any further in the Lords
Quote:
It follows warnings the deal would breach a 1966 UK-US treaty guaranteeing British sovereignty over the islands
How did they not know this treaty existed ?

OLD BOY 24-01-2026 17:22
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36209535)
How did they not know this treaty existed ?
Because they are incompetent.

Dingbat 24-01-2026 23:30
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36209571)
Because they are incompetent.
So when Truss and Cleverly started the ball rolling on the agreement to hand over Chagos in 2022, they must of course have realised that treaty existed?

Or were they equally incompetent?

Sephiroth 24-01-2026 23:31
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36209596)
So when Truss and Cleverly started the ball rolling on the agreement to hand over Chagos in 2022, they must of course have realised that treaty existed?

Or were they equally incompetent?
Oh yes.

Paul 24-01-2026 23:43
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36209596)
Or were they equally incompetent?
We already know Truss is, I guess Cleverly isnt so Clever either. :angel:

nomadking 24-01-2026 23:49
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36209596)
So when Truss and Cleverly started the ball rolling on the agreement to hand over Chagos in 2022, they must of course have realised that treaty existed?

Or were they equally incompetent?
Not sure giving up sovereignty was planned at that point.
Link
Quote:
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the UK and Mauritius have decided to begin negotiations on the exercise of sovereignty over the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT)/Chagos archipelago.
...
We will seek to strengthen significantly our co-operation on Indian ocean security, maritime security and marine protection, conservation of the environment, climate change and respect for human rights, and on tackling illegal migration, illegal fishing, drugs and arms trafficking, as well as bilateral co-operation on a range of other issues.
If sovereignty was being given up, no point in discussing those other matters.
Link
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On 3 October 2024, the UK and Mauritius issued a joint statement, affirming Mauritius' sovereignty over the Chagos Archipelago while granting the UK continued control over Diego Garcia for 99 years. This agreement implicitly indicates that the UK will maintain sovereignty over Diego Garcia, which hosts a critical military base. Additionally, provisions for Chagossians, regional security, and environmental cooperation are included, strengthening bilateral ties between the two nations.[63][64]
In his October 2024 statement on the Chagos Islands, Foreign Secretary David Lammy discussed the contested status of the territory and the UK-US military base.

1andrew1 25-01-2026 01:39
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36209535)
How did they not know this treaty existed ?
They all knew about the treaty but the US had previously indicated they would be happy to revise the treaty.

nomadking 25-01-2026 02:21
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36209605)
They all knew about the treaty but the US had previously indicated they would be happy to revise the treaty.
That was under Biden.

Hugh 25-01-2026 09:23
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36209606)
That was under Biden.
https://www.state.gov/u-s-support-fo...os-archipelago

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U.S. Support for UK and Mauritius Agreement on Chagos Archipelago

PRESS STATEMENT

MARCO RUBIO, SECRETARY OF STATE

MAY 22, 2025

Today, the United States welcomed the historic agreement between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Mauritius on the future of the British Indian Ocean Territory—specifically, the Chagos Archipelago.

We commend both the United Kingdom and Mauritius for their leadership, vision, and commitment to ensure that Diego Garcia remains fully operational for the duration of this agreement. We look forward to working closely with both governments to strengthen our collaboration in support of regional peace and stability.

Following a comprehensive interagency review, the Trump Administration determined that this agreement secures the long-term, stable, and effective operation of the joint U.S.-UK military facility at Diego Garcia. This is a critical asset for regional and global security. President Trump expressed his support for this monumental achievement during his meeting with Prime Minister Starmer at the White House.

papa smurf 25-01-2026 13:05
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Andy Burnham blocked from standing in election- news just breaking



The Labour Party has blocked Andy Burnham from standing in the upcoming Gorton and Denton by-election, a bombshell move that is set to spark the most furious civil war within the party since the general election.

The news broke after the party's National Executive Committee convened this morning for a make-or-break meeting to decide Mr Burnham's fate.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...byelection-run

Sirius 25-01-2026 20:23
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36209616)
Andy Burnham blocked from standing in election- news just breaking



The Labour Party has blocked Andy Burnham from standing in the upcoming Gorton and Denton by-election, a bombshell move that is set to spark the most furious civil war within the party since the general election.

The news broke after the party's National Executive Committee convened this morning for a make-or-break meeting to decide Mr Burnham's fate.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...byelection-run
More of Labour's version of democracy in action

nomadking 25-01-2026 23:13
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If Burnham had the courage of his convictions, then he would've first resigned as Mayor. Then the reasons for not allowing him would've not been there.
Unfair on the other parties to have been forced into an unnecessary election as a result.

1andrew1 25-01-2026 23:38
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36209616)
Andy Burnham blocked from standing in election- news just breaking

The Labour Party has blocked Andy Burnham from standing in the upcoming Gorton and Denton by-election, a bombshell move that is set to spark the most furious civil war within the party since the general election.

The news broke after the party's National Executive Committee convened this morning for a make-or-break meeting to decide Mr Burnham's fate.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...byelection-run
I wouldn't worry too much if I was Burnham; I'm sure Starmer will add this to his list of U-turns in due course. ;)

OLD BOY 26-01-2026 00:57
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36209596)
So when Truss and Cleverly started the ball rolling on the agreement to hand over Chagos in 2022, they must of course have realised that treaty existed?

Or were they equally incompetent?
No doubt. What’s your point?

Both of the main parties have been failing us all.

Sephiroth 04-02-2026 14:37
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
For those who watched PMQs today (04-Feb-26), it will have been noticed that Kemi totally nailed Starmer. Kemi was questioning Starmer's judgement in appointing Mandelson and she asked whether or not Starmer knew that Mandelson was still in contact with Epstein after his conviction.

He admitted that he knew about the relevant Mandelson contact with Epstein which is why he referred that knowledge to the vetting process.

So, Starmer was utterly skewered. You could see it akin to a fox staring into the truck's headlights. I've never seen Starmer so subdued (nor his backbench MPs) and at a loss as to what he could say to put himself into a better light.

Kemi did well.

Sirius 05-02-2026 17:58
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36210052)
For those who watched PMQs today (04-Feb-26), it will have been noticed that Kemi totally nailed Starmer. Kemi was questioning Starmer's judgement in appointing Mandelson and she asked whether or not Starmer knew that Mandelson was still in contact with Epstein after his conviction.

He admitted that he knew about the relevant Mandelson contact with Epstein which is why he referred that knowledge to the vetting process.

So, Starmer was utterly skewered. You could see it akin to a fox staring into the truck's headlights. I've never seen Starmer so subdued (nor his backbench MPs) and at a loss as to what he could say to put himself into a better light.

Kemi did well.
Starmer should start looking for a good removals company. I think everyone but him can see the vultures circling around him.

1andrew1 05-02-2026 18:27
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Starmer hasn't got a 'long future', says veteran Labour MP

A veteran Labour MP has warned that Sir Keir Starmer hasn't got "a very long future" as PM - and that it's a matter of "when... not whether" he goes.

Graham Stringer's warning comes after the PM was forced to climb down on a vote to stop the release of some documents relating to Mandelson in the Commons yesterday, which he called a "fiasco too far".

Asked about the climbdown, Stringer told Sky News: "I think yesterday was a fiasco too far, really.

"I think it started off in a bad way and got worse as the debate went on. It was a measure of political mismanagement and political incompetence."
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...party-12593360

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36210117)
Starmer should start looking for a good removals company. I think everyone but him can see the vultures circling around him.
I think he believes he can hide from the vultures by digging a deeper hole for himself! :D

OLD BOY 05-02-2026 20:35
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
A vote of confidence in Starmer is being called for by the Opposition. That may bring him down, but I think he may survive that, albeit narrowly. The May election results will finish the job. Will he call a General Election in that eventuality as he promised, or do I feel another U-turn coming on.

This is the long awaited just desserts for Starmer after his holier than thou attitude towards the government of the day while Labour was in Opposition.

Sephiroth 05-02-2026 20:47
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36210122)
A vote of confidence in Starmer is being called for by the Opposition. That may bring him down, but I think he may survive that, albeit narrowly. The May election results will finish the job. Will he call a General Election in that eventuality as he promised, or do I feel another U-turn coming on.

This is the long awaited just desserts for Starmer after his holier than thou attitude towards the government of the day while Labour was in Opposition.
Quote:
Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey said: "Keir Starmer should say 'put up or shut up'. Let's have a confidence vote now to see whether Labour MPs have any confidence in the prime minister, so the government can get past this one way or the other and start focusing on the change our country needs."
https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-a...-vote-13503708

Is the above what is "being called for"?

Hugh 05-02-2026 21:06
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36210122)
A vote of confidence in Starmer is being called for by the Opposition. That may bring him down, but I think he may survive that, albeit narrowly. The May election results will finish the job. Will he call a General Election in that eventuality as he promised, or do I feel another U-turn coming on.

This is the long awaited just desserts for Starmer after his holier than thou attitude towards the government of the day while Labour was in Opposition.
When/where did he promise that, please?

1andrew1 05-02-2026 21:27
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36210122)
A vote of confidence in Starmer is being called for by the Opposition. That may bring him down, but I think he may survive that, albeit narrowly. The May election results will finish the job. Will he call a General Election in that eventuality as he promised, or do I feel another U-turn coming on.

This is the long awaited just desserts for Starmer after his holier than thou attitude towards the government of the day while Labour was in Opposition.
I doubt anyone would promise to resign in the case of mid-term election results when the next general election is still some three years away! And let's not forget that Theresa May was felt to be be on her way out after her disastrous 2017 election campaign that made her power dependent on an agreement with the DUP. It took two more years to dislodge her.

jem 05-02-2026 21:32
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210124)
Whn/where did he promise that, please?
He didn’t, the aforementioned poster has simply made it up!

And there is a lesson to be learnt here, if you make a statement, do be prepared to back it up with verifiable sources or facts. Do the research, put the work in. Don’t just repeat, verbatim, something that you have heard, as being the truth. because good chance that it actually isn’t!

Paul 06-02-2026 00:28
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210124)
Whn/where did he promise that, please?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jem (Post 36210127)
He didn’t, the aforementioned poster has simply made it up!
Situation normal. :D

Hom3r 06-02-2026 11:12
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
SKSs days are numbered.


We need a GE and dump his shower of a party


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