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Apart from Luther the top 10 looks pretty grim.
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I read the following article with interest.
http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/09/n...-apple-google/ I've long said and been laughed at on here that Google and Apple will eventually have more of a say when it comes to streaming whilst this is only 3 games it really would give them the opportunity to assess whether these packages are viable. Apple already has its tv box , what's to stop it selling these bundled with its own streaming service , it certainly has the money to develop a product or even buy a current streaming serice like Netflix. With global reach these services could offer relatively cheap subscription packages and still make huge sums from advertising. Youtube Red already offers ad free Youtube and Google Play Music throw in a Netflix type service for say £15 a month and I'm sure people would snap it up. |
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The big media and electronics companies wanted different DVD regions, but in the end if you wanted to watch a film from a different region there were ways and means. It always amazed then and still does, that I used to be able to order a DVD from a Canadian or Australian store and it arrived within 2 days and all for under £10. All UK prices cost more (HMV etc a LOT more) and it always took a week or more for the discs to arrive. I think Netflix is a disrupter to shake the old guard (the big media giants) and I agree they have done a lot right. But I think that is changing, they are getting too complacent, raising prices, taking liberties with customers by removing content and not giving forewarning of it etc. Whether it be Time Warner first, Murdoch, or one of the others, eventually they'll adapt (kicking and screaming) and will come up with something better than Netflix. |
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An update on the Time Warner story is that they're hoping to start offering boxsets on TW owned channels:
http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/09/t...emand-seasons/ ---------- Post added 10-01-2016 at 00:08 ---------- Previous post was 09-01-2016 at 23:40 ---------- One final link about how the global tv market is changing and streaming services are part of that: http://variety.com/2016/tv/awards/go...-4-1201671700/ |
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I think you underestimate the technological advantage that Netflix have, both in delivery infrastructure and algorithms / data. In round one against print media the Internet giants won, in round two against the music companies they won, in round three against the mobile companies they won and - while nothing's certain - in round four against pay TV I'd bet they'll win again.
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ABC have an idea about how the online/streaming tv world might evolve, at least for them, but putting more adult versions of its shows online (it's an interesting idea!):
http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/abc-...on-1201675959/ ---------- Post added at 21:02 ---------- Previous post was at 20:53 ---------- Quote:
But I don't understand your first point about Netflix's delivery infrastructure, what infrastructure? They don't own any delivery methods that I'm aware of, ie cable/telecom cos. But again, I don't understand your remark about mobile. We still have mobile companies. Your point about music companies is particularly on the mark, the music companies didn't see the threat of the internet on their business until it was too late. Again, on Time Warner, a large part of their business was music..was.... I think with the tv networks though, its different, as they create content whereas the music industry was just the middle men between the singers/songwriters and customers. |
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I worked for TimeWarner for fifteen years. To be honest, the current management has a poor track record with adopting new technologies and usually chooses to sell divisions rather than adapt (e.g. Warner Music, AOL, TW Cable, Time Inc., etc). TimeWarner had a relatively poor 2015 and there's discontent on Wall Street so I think you're more likely to see the company being bought up by a cash-rich Fox or Amazon this year rather than see over-the-top innovation from TW.
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Their HD package is £7.49, add in a DNS service, and you pretty much have unlimited content. Prices have gone up but it has been poured into making superb originals, Networks have been making rubbish superhero TV shows for decade and Netflix comes along and hits it out of the park with their first attempt. In fact they have gotten so good at their originals that network TV doesn't excite me at all anymore. Quote:
While the quality of shows on Netflix is consistent, Network TV is struggling, people are fed up of shows being cancelled after one season, they are churning out cop procedural shows one after the other. Netflix has almost 70 million subscribers worldwide, and they just launched in 130 new countries last week, they will easily break the 100 million. No one has that kind of reach, sell your show to Netflix and you have a global audience, you can generate global buzz about your show. TW may talk about it but if they launch it will be US only for years, look at Hulu they have had to abandon their plans for the UK as they simply couldn't get the content deals. |
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Ridiculous 6 now thats good.:D
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This explains some of the delivery side: http://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-cou...ldwide-launch/ Quote:
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As long as VPNs still work then I'm good
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This is an interesting snapshot of quite how much you get for your Netflix sub in each country: http://www.finder.com/netflix-usa-vs-world-content
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The question is, is the official statement to appease content providers, and implementation will be slower than suggested, or have the content providers won? |
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Personally l don't think they will hardly lose any subscribers.
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The simplest way to deal with that would be allow you to use Netflix in territories other than the one your credit card is registered to for only a certain number of days each year. Until it happens nobody will know what the measures will be though.
According to a recent piece in Wired, they have 20M+ customers in China using VPNs - which is a lot of revenue - though given recent crackdowns there on VPNs and the terrible connectivity outside the country I'm not sure I believe that's how many are really active. Couple of other interesting recent articles on whether Netflix can maintain its current success: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/te...t-netflix.html http://www.adweek.com/news/televisio...casters-168985 |
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Why not of course....
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I'm sure it will be coming soon, Den.
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Patience is a virtue one has to learn OB.:)
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I wonder if they'll be anymore successful than the ISP's trying to stop proxies accessing The Pirate Bay. As in total epic fail despite court injunctions.
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It'd be impossible to wipe out the use of a VPN.
I think it's going to head down the route of region locking the account. PSN do something similar to this. Still ways around it but far less convenient. |
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If a loophole is closed then most people generally adapt to the new circumstances they are faced with.
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Are you suggesting that they will find a way around the expired loophole and find a new method, or just accept the new situation? |
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Accept that the days of free perks are over PB in this case.:)
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Netflix share prices soar as company reaches nearly 75m subscriptions.
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No wonder they can afford to produce good quality originals, good luck to them |
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Sky Go refreshed with new design, additional features to follow
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1365...ures-to-follow |
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Totally agree with you there Chad, I mean how important to your life is it to keep trying to beat the system? after all it is only TV. |
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That HBO deal Sky has until 2020 is not likely to be re-newed, in my opinion. |
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Bad news for Virgin customers unless one subscribes to Now TV.
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This is bad news for Virgin, though, because Sky will inevitably show the Showtime programmes only on Atlantic, and we don't have access to AMC on BT. So what will we get from Virgin? Clue: You don't need any fingers to count the number of exclusive deals we'll have... |
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There is zero chance of us getting Sky Atlantic sadly so the only reasonable option now is Now TV.
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The above means no HBO Go, or Showtime streaming service in the UK for a good few years. A battle that the US has won and the UK has lost. It now makes Now TV an even better option. And certainly can't help VM retain customers, who primarily subscribe to their pay TV offerings. |
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Well the only rabbit they will pull out of the hat this year is a new TiVo STB but whether that is enough we shall see.
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But for those who do want the premium cable content, there are streaming options that make it unnecessary to resort to a yearly Sky pay TV contract. |
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I do think there are rabbits left and VM should seize them. We need more streaming services on the Tivo box and VM need to do those difficult deals with Amazon and Sky. Whilst I'm all right because I have a smart TV and a Roku streaming stick, a huge proportion of the British public do not have a smart TV, and have never heard of Roku, let alone a streaming stick! VM really need to act now, before it's too late. |
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All I can say if a studio wants big audiences go with Netflix, sell an exclusive to a national broadcaster and watch your show disappear. How many great shows failed to catch on in the UK because broadcasters didn't give them a fair shot or the channel just din't have the reach. How many people do you know that watched fear the walking dead on AMC? C5 treated Braking Bad appealingly, And Californication got dropped by Sky and only got picked up again a few years later as a filler for their newly launched Sky Atlantic.
From a studio point of view if Netflix is paying the money and they have the audience makes sense to go with them. They maybe building debt but that is no bad thing when you are talking such a global endevour, they will break even at somepoint. |
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Many people are content with VM's TV offering, which essentially only lacks Atlantic (which is now boosted by the Sky Showtime deal). Some people don't care about such content. Many of those that do will add a Now TV subscription, with a £15 Now TV box. Some will move to Sky, and I think more people will start to consider the option of completely cutting the cord. |
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Someone I know who works for a big TV company was trying to pitch me the idea that Virgin Media is an acquisition target for Sky, perhaps as part of the expected Sky / Fox deal.
At a time when BT are expanding into TV and satellite is on a slow decline it would enable Sky to reduce their dependency on BT infrastructure. The city would like it as it would immediately add 4 million more direct customers and Sky is felt to be better at monetising them than Liberty Global has been. Competition authorities are less of an issue now having already allowed through the BT / EE deal, there's the growth of competition from streaming services and also the cosy relationship between Murdoch and the Tories, though the broadband market is a more significant problem, especially as TalkTalk seem unlikely to survive. Sky also have leverage over Virgin that come the end of the TV contract in 2017 they won't really need them any more if they can sell customers Now TV direct instead, which would make Virgin's TV offering unviable. John Malone and Rupert Murdoch have been on better terms the past few years which would make a deal easier and it's been reported in the press that Malone's not that attached to keeping Virgin as part of LG if someone comes along with a decent offer. If he can push up short term profitability and get Sky into a bidding war with Vodafone for it then even better. |
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Sky will not be buying Virgin Media........
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Surely that would be a massive competition issue. |
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As MM says there would be serious competition issues and l echo the same sentiment.
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A year ago I would have dismissed the idea completely. Now with the way the market has changed and the big appetite for mergers in telecoms I'd at least entertain the idea even if I still think it unlikely to get past the regulators. Old Rupert wants his legacy to be world's biggest media and communications company though and what he wants he usually gets...
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Virgin Media isn't a standalone company any more - they are are part of Liberty Global and a very big part of them at that.
Any change to the ownership of Virgin Media involves the wider company. When a Vodafone take over was being discussed, that talk was about Vodafone buying all of LGI, not just VM UK. |
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No big loss but Ant and Dec may move to Netflix or Amazon http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016...?ncid=webmail2
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Good riddance to the rubbish as some in this country compared the talentless duo to the great double acts of yonder.:nono:
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l don't particularly pay attention to awards PB but remember its only my opinion which many others probably do not agree with but l have to speak as l see.
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What about their outstanding pop career. :LOL:
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I am sure your views on Ant and/or Dec cut them to the quick, and are only mitigated by their net worth of £62 million each... ;)
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Well done to them for making a fortune but l still stick to my opinion that they are short on talent whether its on TV or by singing in front of a mike but each to their own opinion l say as there are many who seem to like them sadly.
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Still more talented than a lot of presenters though den.
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Well that's not saying much is it Mark......:)
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Where as their presenting skills are fantastic and make most of the shows they front a lot more interesting. Even their show about The Princes Trust was highly entertaining and amusing. Personally they are very talented and it shows. Winning awards every year. |
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A couple of things, I've noticed Amazon has had a Netflix-type makeover. And secondly, I get a newsletter called "Risk & Reward" and this one was about Netflix, so I've copied it here in full. I don't necessarily agree with what they say, but I thought some here might be interested:
Last week I wrote about an obscure law of business strategy: This "law" predicts which businesses will make it. Wednesday, 27 January 2016 How Netflix smashed TV's business model to bits Dear Reader, Last week I wrote about an obscure law of business strategy: This "law" predicts which businesses will make it. It's about "the law of conservation of modality". (Horrible name, I know - henceforth I'm calling it LOCOM). I said it was "an incredibly useful and powerful way to think about business strategy", and that it could be applied to any type of business. Today I want to use LOCOM to explain how Netflix has grown into a $50bn market cap stock market giant (at the expense of the existing TV companies). How companies prioritise Here's how I described LOCOM last week. "The theory starts with a product. Think of a product as a company's solution to a problem. For example: "people need a device to help them work while they're at the office." In order to solve this problem, the company builds a desktop computer. But the computer is really a number of different solutions in one. It has a screen to solve one problem, a hard disk to solve another problem, and so on. Now, for any product, there's always going to be one part of the problem that's harder to solve than the others. In the example of the desktop computer, the hardest single problem to solve is making a processor that's fast enough. Making a fast processor is the single biggest challenge. So the computer engineers optimise the entire computer around the processor. Optimising around the processor means making all the other components – the mouse, screen, motherboard, RAM and the like – interchangeable. In a nutshell, that's Christensen's Law. He says that for any given product, a company optimises around the single hardest problem to solve, and the remaining parts of the problem become interchangeable... … The business implication of all this is that there's no money to be made from solving the less difficult parts of the problem. All of the value, and all the profits, are made from solving the hardest part of the problem. " The TV business model is getting smashed to bits So how does it fit the TV business? What are the different parts of the problem? - The first part is creating entertaining TV shows – "content". - The second part is choosing which shows to make and promote – "production". - The third part is reaching customers – "distribution". In the traditional TV business model, the TV networks integrate the hardest parts of the problem: content and production. They make TV shows in-house. They decide which shows to make, and which to promote, in-house. The networks don't handle everything themselves though. Just like LOCOM says, they modularise the least important part of the problem, which is distribution. Most TV networks rely on local affiliates (in the states) or cable companies (like Sky or Verizon) to get their product into people's homes. In other words, the networks focus their energies on the most important part of the problem (integrating it). And they leave "the small stuff" for other people to figure out (modularising it). Enter Netflix. Netflix uses new technology to reach subscribers directly. Anyone with a computer, a phone or a modern TV can access it. And people find Netflix fun to use. It's more convenient than old fashioned broadcast TV. It's able to offer a wider range of shows, whenever wherever the viewer wants them. And it doesn't rely on Sky or Virgin media or Verizon to reach its customers. All of which is to say that Netflix has integrated distribution, the third part of the problem I described earlier. The new streaming technology has changed the game. Because of changes in technology, distribution has gone from being a secondary problem for TV companies to being the most important problem, the one you optimise and build the entire business around. The TV networks are finding it hard to match Netflix's user experience (aka, distribution). They might have great in-house content, but that no longer matters if their distribution isn't as good as Netflix's. As for Netflix, they're behaving just like LOCOM predicts. They've farmed out the content side to others – in other words, they've modularised it. They buy in great shows and leave the details of content-creation to the experts. Netflix is just one example of the general principle of LOCOM, which is as follows: a new entrant to the market can profit by integrating a part of the business model which had previously been modularised, and modularising the parts of the business model which had previously been integrated. So when you see Uber valued at $62bn, or Amazon gobbling up the retail industry, or use money supermarket to choose a credit card – now you know what they're up to! If you've made it this far, you're probably like me – a bit of an investing nerd. I find all this stuff interesting because it helps me in my day job as editor of The Penny Share Letter. It helps me think about disruptive companies and new business models – exactly what I'm after as a stock picker. So if you want to see how I put all this to use, click here. Best wishes, Sean Keyes Editor Risk and Reward P.s. Got any thoughts on this article? Reach me at sean@agora.co.uk |
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Got rid of the fully loaded version of Kodi that was on my M8S Android box, and just did an install of Blackbox build of Kodi... far superior in both visually and functionality.
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It will be interesting to see the pricing details.
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