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and yes at moment VM got all sky sports channels 2 of them in HD and no bt yet but it should come yes sky is best for sport as got all sports HD channels hopefully they let VM have the rest sometime but don't expect that BTsport is important to lots because of the football and rugby but mainly football |
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BT would just pay Virgin whatever the going rate is to have an app hosted on TiVo. From there BT would have complete control over subscription sign ups, similar to how Spotify Premium customers pay Spotify directly, but can access their music via the TiVo app. With TiVo having a dedicated 10mb connection, streaming BT Sports in HD should a doddle. BT win as they can sell the channels to the customer directly. Virgin win as they have the BT Sports channels on their platform. TiVo customers who want access to BT Sports win too. |
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Virgin still need to pay ESPN up until July 31st. They will start reusing that money in August. What will Virgin do??? I think pay Sky more for all the missing channels (Sky News HD) or sign new deals with other broadcasters. Keep an eye on the Coming Soon to Virgin TV thread. |
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By the time BT Sports launches in August, based on TiVo's uptake rate, Virgin should have 1.7 million customers on TiVo. That pushes the percentage up to 45%. Having BT Sports as an app exclusive to TiVo might be to Virgins advantage. Customer who don't currently have TiVo, who would want access to the BT Sports app, might be prepared to take a new 12 month contract in return for a free 250gb TiVo box. It wouldn't be the first time content or a service has been exclusive to TiVo. |
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With TiVo having a dedicated 10mb connection, streaming BT Sports in HD should a doddle. It struggles more times than not with HD on BBC iPlayer!! |
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I know that without a source this just looks like me, as a SKY customer trying, to wind people up. If people don't believe me that's understandable. |
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I appreciate you will not be able give much away Chad, but if you can cheer me up by telling me that I am wrong in my assumption, I will be very happy. If I guess right, I will be gutted:( |
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Chad! the new Media Boy?????? :D;) |
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Phew, that's a relief, thanks Chad. I doubt I will be overly bothered whatever the channel is now. The only thing I will be upset about is if they stick the ending of Mad Dogs on it! |
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I wish that VM would hurry up and tell us IF BT Sports will be the network.
I have just had an email to say that BT Sports will only be on Sky, BT. and that the only way to watch football from BT Sports. So come on VM, pull your finger out and tell us whats happening. |
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Arthur, jesus h mate, do you have any patience? you continually whine on about this and numerous posters have told you time and again that we will know when the negotiations are finalised, if Virgin don't know when the actual date is ( that's if we actually get the channel) then how can they tell anyone? |
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The premiership starts in 6 weeks so they need to get things sorted fairly soon
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Is normal for Virgin to inform their customers 4 or 5 days after the channels broadcasting on their platform and we all know anyway!
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I suspect Virgin and BT are still in talks so no anouncement can be made yet,and quite rightly BT can say in their adverts that BT Sports is only available on BT vision and sky digital boxes. I can understand Virgin customers feeling frustrated though. It will be interesting to see just how many customers virgin loose if BT sports isn`t available on virgin. One further point,I read somewhere on this forum that BT sports is now listed on the Freeview EPG,so maybe you virgin customers could get BT sports that way as I used to do with Setanta when it first launched.
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They might not lose any customers, you are assuming that this would be the case , maybe not! |
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Sure they might not loose any customers but going by some of the comments on here I suspect some will jump ship.
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The frustration is that VM NEVER tell customers what is happening, you only find out when it appears.
Some PR from a so called major company, l always remember when l complained to Sky re that awful set of numbers on the screen during a big game, the VM CS agent had a right old go at me saying they have no choice in putting it there to stop 'illegal streams going into some one house that is not paying VM bill. What they dont realise is that people just have to break into the 'green box' and just reconnect the thing. I did ONE day with Telewest, collecting boxes and l found out so much about cable tv, from eginmeers. And its the same system today. |
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Just had the email from ESPN asking if its OK to pass my email address across to BT so they can contact me, i said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I am not giving them my email because i don't want the BT sports channel. They don't have the one sport i watch so why should they have my email address. :)
The email address is unique to ESPN and is from my personal domain. I give individual addresses to individual sites so i will soon know if they still have gone ahead and passed it on. I have never had any mail on that email address from BT so if they do contact me i will know who they got it from. |
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I like my sports and was happy to get ESPN/ESPN America at no extra charge. I also subscribed to Sky Sports.
When it was announced BT Sports was taking over from ESPN i thought i hope VM get this. But times are getting tough and a couple of months ago i stopped my Sky Sports package to save a few ££. I know its only the summer but you know what my world hasn't caved in. Life carries on. All the uncertainty of will VM get BT sports or not has started to bore me now. Sky Sports prices are going up soon - if VM get Bt Sports it will cost more than before. i work out about £600 a year to get the Sports in HD (assuming BT sport does come to VM). Thats too much for me these days (i havent had a pay rise in 3 years) so unless VM do a 'deal' i wont be getting BT Sports even if it does arrive let alone Sky Sports. These days its a matter of priorities. I wonder how many will subscribe to BT and Sky Sports. If you can afford -good on yer. i have MLB.TV which i think represents good value for money for my baseball fix and for footy i shall make do with Match of the Day highlights (BBC) for the 'greed is king' 'not in the real world' premier league , FA Cup games (ITV), Champions League games(ITV), Europa League games (ITV), internationals and next years World Cup (BBC/ITV), Scottish football on BBC Scotland and Alba,goals on Sky Sports News, NFL (BBC/C4) as well as stuff on Eurosport- most in HD and all free. |
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If Virgin were not going to get the BT sports channel it would be in their own interest to not let customers know until the last possible moment anyway. If they got the channel they will be shouting about it straight away, as that is also in their interest. While it sucks Arthur, you have to remember that none of these companies actually really care about their customers, they care about money so will do what benefits them rather than customers. |
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Whilst people want to watch the premiership, there is plenty of good free to air football featuring English and Scottish teams: ITV - Champions League - 18 games ITV - Europa League - 29 games ITV - FA Cup - 16 games ITV - FA Community Shield ITV - 2014 (England) World Cup Qualifiers - 4 games + friendly against Scotland ITV - FA Youth Cup - 2 games BBC Alba - SPL - 3 games BBC Alba - Scottish Challenge Cup - 5 games BBC Scotland - Scottish Cup - 5 games BBC Scotland - League Cup - 3 games BBC Scotland - 2014 (Scotland) World Cup Qualifiers - 1 game 88 live games on free to air TV, roughly 2 per week during the football season. |
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Anyway, BT launches August the 1st. I wouldn't be surprised if BT Sport just appeared in place of ESPN. first BT want to get as many people over to their broadband before launch. They won't get that, if VM say, 'yeah you can watch it on our platform Next BT will want to get as high a viewership as possible to get Advertising Money incoming. Think of the financial drop-off at the Change over if the channel lost all VM viewers. |
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I fully expect VM to tweak its packages making them even better ,
Looking purely at the cheapest entry package to XL with a PVR (TIVO) costs £60.99 , compared to £54.00 for Entertainment Extra + (from Sept 13 prices) with Sky of course if your address can only receive poor ADSL speeds requiring you to take Sky fibre this then this makes VM cheaper by around £5.50. Both companies have introductory offers for new customers however I still believe VM will make XL even more attractive or alter its pricing to make it more attractive to those wanting XL TV via the cheapest method. |
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BT Sport signs lower league football.
Barnet, Luton and Grimsby Town will be among the teams to feature on BT Sport next month after the emerging broadcaster struck a deal with The Football Conference for Conference Premier games. http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...contentID=2319 |
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TV Live web site is reporting that this new BT deal is for two years for 30 games per season to be shown (Also play offs as part of deal). |
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Not really, they just don't have enough stuff to warrant two channels.
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I could not agree more regarding the fact that the cost is now beating customers, and NO companies don't care about its customers.
It is great news that BT Sports have gone into the lower leagues of football, some of the games on there are better than PL/Championship football. My only gripe is the fact that Sky, BY and Talk Talk getting into the act should make it bigger and better for fans, but its not. What people have to realise is that these companies could make it cheaper for the customer, clubs are raking it in from sponsors, but the problem is that it is forcing Tv broadcasters to up the cost of games. It is going to come to the crunch when it will be easier to actually going to watch a game instead of watching it on Tv. If prices go up anymore, l will seriously consider packing all the football on Tv, and just watch it on ITV, as just recently it was announced that ITV are planning on getting a new 'pay' channel - possible for football in connection with Bt Sports. |
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For example, VIP is £113.99 per month, take off the additional V HD box and the price goes up to £130.24 when surely they should offer it for £107.49 (£6.50 less due to removing the additional STB). Sky packages are all built around a single STB with additional ones available if required (albeit at extra cost). Just wonder if it would benefit VM to do this as Sky's top package (without getting into the comparing apples and pears argument) is around £93 so VM's is about £20 more. Surely a single STB VIP collection with a lower headline cost would benefit VM and reduce the price gap but still allow those who want additional STBs to add them at the regular cost of £6.50+. Anyway, back on topic with the loss of ESPN in the XL pack and the current negotiations with Sky, does anyone think we may see the end of the Sky Premium HD charge? My logic behind this is that Sky Sports on Sky will be £22 a month from Sep plus about an extra £5 for HD making it £27ish per month. If Sky Sports on VM does go up by over £3 then it is going to touching £30 a month without HD. So if the Premium HD was dropped, it would still be about £3 a month more than on Sky and wasn't the Premium HD charge originally introduced so VM couldn't appear to offer Sky Sports in HD for less than Sky (back when their HD charge was around £10 per month)? Obviously it's only a thought but some people (me included) enjoy watching sport in HD but will think twice about it now if it's going to be £37ish a month for the privilege. Surely with the launch of BT Sport, Sky will be keen to get as many Sky Sports subscribers as possible even if that means getting them through VM? Alternatively, they could give us all the Sky Sports channels in HD but even then £37ish is still a bit steep. Interesting times ahead me thinks especially as Sky will be wanting to fight off BT and surely LG must have something up their sleeves as part of the aquisition of VM? |
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Laughable attempt from Bt to make it look like they have any say in the matter. Sky get to choose their top picks, and also get to tell Bt which matchdays they have to take their top picks from. There is no negotiation, Sky got pack D!
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Like I said previous, utd v Liverpool and arsenal v Chelsea will be on sky not BT.
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In my opinion I still think that VirginMedia will get BT Sport from launch but it will be the same price as on Sky (£12 for SD & £15 for HD) and not part of the XL package as ESPN was
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"Like I said previous, utd v Liverpool and arsenal v Chelsea will be on sky not BT." i said it would be on sky, even if BT sports gets first pick. Because BT sports channel is on sky |
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Brenden Rogers? Finishes top 8? (which most would think liverpool are capable of) Bad season for Man Utd..Moyes won't be under pressure? etc etc |
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I hope Manuel Pellegrini does it for City this year, i'm pretty sure he'll have them playing with style.
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Again, it's on Sky's EPG via BT. You cannot get it on a Sky TV deal alone. It's splitting hairs I know, but there we are. ---------- Post added at 17:00 ---------- Previous post was at 16:58 ---------- Quote:
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...well just to quell the pedantic, sky sports is available on VM, BT sports is not so they are not the same.
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http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2013/...orts-channels/
"The UK’s digital terrestrial pay-TV broadcaster Top Up TV has been unable to reach an agreement to resell BT Vision’s new sports channels on the Freeview platform. As a result, Top Up TV is withdrawing from the premium sports channel business. The platform has done a deal with Sky to recommend that Top Up TV customers transfer to Sky at a reduced rate if they wish to continue to receive Sky Sports channels. Top Up TV will cease broadcasting Sky Sports 1 and 2 at the end of June and will cease broadcasting ESPN at the end of July. BT Vision will direct sell its sports channels to the customer and so bypassing both Sky and Top Up TV." So no carriage deal with SKY, and no carriage deal with Top Up TV. |
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