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Ive decided to go with these as it seems to be the best option or would the same equipment be ok but just using a straight through hdmi on one output straight through from main room to closest bedroom about 20 feet and the rest using Ethernet connection due to distance??

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet%C2%AE-S...+hdmi+splitter

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet%C2%AE-P..._bxgy_ce_img_y

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet%C2%AE-S..._bxgy_ce_img_z

Main thanks to Spiderplant for helping me in the right direction

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I have noticed a longer pause when changing between channels as well - it must be a Virgin fault somewhere, seeing that people a reporting it from different locations around the country with the same fault, just a coinsidence!

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http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...614849#M109188

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I guess you missed this one
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet%C2%AE-E...bxgy_ce_text_y

20 feet isn't that long for HDMI, so should be OK. But may be wise to buy it from somewhere with a no-quibble money back guarantee, just in case.

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The slow channel change hasn't been as bad for last couple of days but playback of recorded programmes is getting worse, freezing for a several seconds , restarting with lots of pixcellation. it has become a real pain trying to watch anything pre recorded.:rolleyes:

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From an answer to this problem on the VM community forums it sounds like we will need a tech out and possibly a box swap.:(

Live TV is fine but any and every recording is now freezing for up to 10 seconds, total loss of audio and severe pixcellation when it restarts. This is happening to new recordings or much older ones.

Not that bothered about a box swap but the missus will be vexed, around 50 hours of recorded programmes, all hers.:D

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Thought this may be of interest:

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2015/01/1...mputer-cables/
;)

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Can something like this work through a router? My set up has a router in the living room which is connected to the Superhub. From the router I have a either net cable that runs from the living room to the bedroom which plugs into another router which allows me to have a really good wireless signal in the bedroom and plug in stuff via cable if needed.

So I would want to plug a HMDI cable into one of these, ethernet cable into the router and then ethernet cable from the router in the bedroom into another one of these boxes and then HDMI into my TV?

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They don't work through a Switch so they won't work through a Router

Blank screen on rebooting from TV remote
 

My Tivo box has been acting strange for the last couple of months. I have not made any changes to equipment i.e. not changed Tivo settings, removed or replaced HDMI leads. I never switch on or off into standby the Tivo box from the remote, I use TV (Sony) remote to switch on, but sometimes, not every time, just get blank screen. I'm stumped on this. Tivo box is only 1 year old. Anyone shed any light on the problem please.

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Only thought I can come up with is that the TiVo is on a radio channel as it has a black screen. If that's not it then I have no idea.

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I have seen this occasionally, changing channel seems to cure it.

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My box has definitely corpsed, confirmed by remote access that the hard drive is failing. I am now sat in front of it waiting for the VM tech to arrive. It has now decided to constantly reboot, each reboot is taking about 20 to 30 minutes, it then stays on for about five minutes before going of again.:(

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It's probably an incompatibility between the TiVo software and your TV. It's quite common with Sony TVs. Check Sony's website to see if a firmware update is available for the TV.

If that doesn't fix it, you might be able to prevent it happening by putting the TiVo into standby before you turn the TV off.

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Thanks for the responses. I'll give them a go.

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What's the price difference between v hd boxes and TiVo boxes now? I think my mum would love a TiVo downstairs but she's always worried about ever increasing prices... I've got a TiVo upstairs in my room as I'm selfish. And we've got two v hd boxes too

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It's generally £5 per month per box difference between a non-recordable V HD box and TiVo

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Would there be an installation charge on top of that Ben? We have a V+ recordable box we may think about upgrading.

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If you're swapping an existing box, you can order a swap to a 500GB TiVo via Quickstart for £20 and then the £5 a month (if that's not cancelled out by any new bundle offer)

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Just to point out that only one box can be swapped at a time via Quickstart, so if you're looking to change more than one box, more than one Quickstart order would need to be placed.

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Just checked online and it is quoting £11.50 per month for a Tivo. Is the Quickstart offer only available by phone or is there a link to it?

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Phone only at present to swap a box.

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:tu:

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I guess it's assuming that you want an extra box rather than a swop, so it's Quoting £5 + £6.50 for multi-room.

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I have noticed that most of the menus are very slow on this new box, unless it was due to the update?

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Is it true that I can connect my TiVo up to the xBox One? Seen plenty saying it is possible, but not actually tested it myself.

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Just looked into it and seems to be causing trouble for a lot of people.

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Yes you can do it and also V+.

What sort of trouble, how old are those trouble posts as there was trouble with Uk tv and the X1 ages ago but all fine now?

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You can do it, and it does cause a lot of problems :). No picture, freezing pictures and the TiVo failing to boot have all been reported.

But try it and see. Let us know how you get on.

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I've noticed a few times recently that if I have one of the radio channels on and th change to a tv channel I get sound but no picture. I have to change to another tv channel and then back again to fix it. Is that a known fault?

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It has been reported before, but isn't exactly a "known fault". Can you remember what channels you were changing from and to? And had you played back a recording whilst tuned to the radio channel?

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It's happened before from a recording and a tonight from a live radio station. The recording was from radio 4, I couldn't tell you what the live station was, young daughter had the remote and we ended up on radio by mistake! I changed from whatever that was to SSNHQHD, then up one and down one to recover the picture.

I'm fairly certain I haven't played a recording whilst tuned to a radio channel, but not certain.

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I get that too. Just pause, wait a minute then hit play or stop and it will be fine. Been having a battle with Virgin over this for the last month. They say signal is fine, which it may be but this is the second box to do this and also freeze on changing channel.

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Regarding fault reference - NKE5332.

I thought this was raised for the slow/laggy menu operations during normal usage but according to:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...741250#M110859

it is raised specifically for the delayed response after the TiVo box is left idle for a long time.

Is there more than one fault reference raised regarding the general slow operation of the menus?

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As far as I'm aware no other faults have been identified.

General slowness is usually caused by the box picking up IR interference. To test for this, put your left thumb over the IR receiver (just to the left of the standy LED), and operate the box using the buttons. Does it now respond faster?

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Don't think it's IR related - I don't think this explains the behaviour I had a few weeks ago:

I was in my planned recordings and I hit page down twice followed by down 4 times and nothing happened. Just when I thought it had not registered the remote commands the screen updated and it went to the expected place (i.e. two pages down and four programmes down).

It must have took a good 7 or so seconds before the screen update happened but when it did it was one quick succession (i.e. just one single update as apposed to it replaying the commands one-by-one and updating the screen after each one).

7 seconds a little out of the ordinary but its not uncommon for it to take 3 or 4 seconds before the remote command is operated on whilst navigating menus. During playback, commands (pausing, forwarding, rewinding, skipping, programme info etc.) are fine with no noticeable lag.

Also, some behaviour I noted when I returned from my Xmas holidays where the box was unbelievably responsive (never seen it this fast not even after a reboot):

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...626477#M109249

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That sounds like a classic case of NKE5332. It happens because the software gets paged out to the hard drive, and there's a delay whilst it is being paged back in.

I can't explain that, but don't rule out IR interference unless you've tested for it. It's very common and can cause quite subtle effects.

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I see - I thought it was just raised for the delay of several seconds you get when you press home (after leaving it idle for a while). Are you saying that even after the home screen appears we should still expect menu operations to be laggy for a while?

Incidentally - no real conclusive evidence other than what people say over on the VM forums but several posters who claim to have no problems with laggy menus have mentioned they have Cisco boxes. All those complaining seem to mention they have Samsung's - it's a pity we can't find anyone who has both a Samsung and a Cisco box for their take on it.

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It definitely isn't just the Home page that's affected. I tend to notice it mainly in My Shows, though just had it happen in the guide. I guess it depends which bit of the software has been paged out.

Both have the problem.

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Both my boxes are Cisco boxes and both suffer from laggy menus.

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I've noticed that the guide can be slow during and just after a connection to VM. Seen this several times since the last update.

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I hadn't noticed that before, but I've just tested it and I agree it's definitely slower. It's probably unavoidable though, as it's very busy at that time.

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I have seen very variable performance since the update.

spiderplant, your suggestion of paging certainly seems feasible.

I wonder if what is happening is that TiVo is giving priority (wrongly) to background maintenance activity?

For example, what is a VCM connection and why is it done so frequently, every 45 minutes to an hour in my experience?

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I don't know. Where do you see this?

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It's in system info. I have seen poor performance both during/just after a vcm connection but also fine performance during/just after and poor performance when no vcm connection is taking place. In short I haven't observed any correlation between the vcm connection and performance.

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Ah, OK. A quick Google suggests it is how the US TiVo checks for remotely-scheduled recordings. I'm pretty sure it does nothing on VM TiVos, which have a permanent connection.

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Which begs the question why it happens so frequently on UK TiVo.

Should it happen at all?

Is it the cause of variable UK TiVo performance?

When the 'plum' version was created for Virgin Media, did someone forget to alter the VCM connection frequency bit to accommodate the UK's permanent connection?

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To be perfectly honest there was a heralding of the new update by Virgin that the TiVo would be much much faster when we got the update but sadly it seems that the TiVo has got slower since the update in many of its functions.

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Odd one I noticed yesterday. A series link recording of NCIS LA recorded for almost 3 hours! :confused:

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They generally show 3 or 4 back to back during the day, so if you have it set to new and re-runs you will get the repeats. I have it set to new only, as I am missing the XL pack already and cannot bear to watch NCIS and NCIS LA in SD.

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As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. Even if it is making a network connection once an hour, that's negligible compared with other stuff that's happening in the background.

No.

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The recording was the actual show, then 2 hours of whatever was on after it. :confused:

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Ah, sounds like either a bug or some duff info in the guide.

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When I first used the TIVO after the update, it seemed much quicker. But shortly afterwards it got slower and now there is quite a gap (of about 5 seconds) between menus.

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Yup, that sums it up for me too, this was hailed as a very big improvement to TiVo, maybe that should read failed :td:

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Somehow, I don't think this was the TIVO's fault - more like the programming behind the patches :rolleyes:

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Black screens between menu selections are very disconcerting, as is the lag between a button press and something actually happening.

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another one here for black screens and lag between menus since "update"

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We need a new TiVo box. The current one has been out for years and its performance especially is just not what today's users expect from their devices. Screens need to change and apps need to load almost instantaneously. Ideally, any such upgrade will come with support for tablets, phones and near dumb STBs that can connect to the TiVo for recordings, on demand and live shows, I.e. The Roamio Pro, plus Mini.

I've just about given up on using Virgin in other rooms. So often what we want to watch is recorded or on demand and I'm not having a 2nd full TiVo, yes because it's OTT, but mainly because of the fan. Freeview, with Chromecast fills in instead. A TiVO Mini I probably would get.

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TiVo doesn't have a fan

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I would have thought somebody liked it!;)

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carl.waring :)

Woe betide you if you say anything detrimental about it :D

(no offence meant Mr Waring ;) )

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Oh come on, somebody must like it. :D

Darn! Beaten to it by Kev.

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Oops, I meant HDD, honest! Can't have an HDD in the bedroom.

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Probably one for spiderplant: Can a TIVO be fitted with an SSD?

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Probably could, but it wouldn't be cost effective.

You can get get a 1TB PC HDD for around £40, a 1TB SSD is over £200

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Why not?

I've had a TiVo on our bedroom for a few years and its not noisy at all.

Also regarding your earlier post. A stb is not like a phone or computer, it doesn't need upgraded or replaced every 12-24 months. It still performs the same tasks it did a few years ago.

Since release it has had many software updates that improve the performance and is a much better product now than when initially released.

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And yet lots of people complain about it being too laggy and unresponsive.

Is it that the hardware isn't quite up to the job of what the software is trying to do?
Using your analogy, i have a 5 year old PC but if i try to do on that what you could do on a brand new PC i'd probably end up throwing it out of the window in frustration.

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Some of the features have been updated in the last 5 years but its a dinosaur product now.

Far too slow to function and still far too many bugs.

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We'll have to agree to disagree. The tick, tick, tick of an HDD, even a good one, is very audible to me. Especially when it turns on and off at times of it's choosing. But also, it's just not needed or wanted. The TiVo Mini exists, and why would anyone, out of choice, be managing recordings on several different TiVos in one home?

I also have to disagree about the performance and capabilities of the box. Peoples attitudes to UI performance have changed ENORMOUSLY in recent years as their day to day experience is set more by smartphones and tablets than earlier cable boxes and video recorders. Even modern Smart TVs are having to up their game. The current TiVo performance is a relic of a bygone era! Also, boxes like the Roamio Pro have the greater number of tuners needed to be used for the whole home.

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The difference being the primary use. The software being released on the PC now has more features, better graphics etc, so requires more power. What you do on an STB now (essentially watching/recording TV and maybe viewing apps) hasn't really changed in 5 years.

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But people's expectations HAVE changed, greatly..... And rightly so. Old style STBs were (are) horrid.

The VM TiVo was better, in it's day, for sure, it's features are still pretty good, but it performs like a dinosaur. For example, I use it as much for Netflix as a DVR. Loading the app takes FOREVER!

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Spot on mate, it's ridiculous how long it takes.

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Sorry I have to disagree. It does extactly what I want and when I want. My TiVos are not slow at all, waiting about 20-30 seconds for an app(YouTube/Netflix) to load is not a major annoyance or hindrance for us.


Also being able to use the VM site or TiVo app to mange series links and recordings is a bonus. I've used Sky's newer UI and think its so much harder to use and more of a pain than TiVo is.

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Well, it's just loaded for me in 45 seconds. Not the fastest Netflix device that I have but more than acceptable. At one time it was taking over a minute; I can't remember if that was before or after the S/W update as I rarely use Tivo for Netflix.

Surely anyone can live with 45 seconds?

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45 seconds is perfectly adequate in my book.

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First, I'm not criticising the TiVo UI. Nothing's perfect but it's far better than Sky and pretty well thought out. It was just pushing the hardware of the time a bit too hard. It was a common problem around that time.

I'm glad those that are happy are happy I really am, it does all depend what you are used to. But just compare opening Netflix/YouTube, for example, on an Ipad and using Chromecast, to on TiVo. The experience does not compare. Even moving around the regular menus is nasty and sluggish compared to a modern phone etc., all for the want of a vaguely up to date hardware platform. Many (clearly not all!) will just give up or never take up using it, for alternatives - not Sky, but other ways of getting TV, like the above example., not overnight or in a huff, but because, if they are a new potential customer, it just feels like a relic, or if they are an existing customer they just find themselves using it less and less because there are better ways of doing things. This cannot be good for Virgin.

And then there is the multi-device, multi-room issue, where our TiVo just hasn't kept up with what TiVo themselves think is needed. Again, modern app-based TV effortlessly moves from screen to screen, exactly where you left off, very quickly.

It's not that I've been whinging about this for years. Just saying now is the time Virgin need to jump on this, pretty quick!

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i wish my ex girlfriend had thought the same!

But yes i usually just let it load as i grab a drink or something. its up and running when i return

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[QUOTE=vincerooney;35763041]i wish my ex girlfriend had thought the same!



Love it!!!

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The next time the Tivo software is updated perhaps they could return the copying facilities we had on the V+. Or create a "Copy" folder and allow recordings to be moved to it, so that users could use the existing "Play all recordings" feature to play them and output them to a VCR/CD recorder. Maybe too they could address the time lag experienced when waiting for the "My shows" recording list to appear as it iscurently very bitty. Not sure whether it's possible to increase the speed or simply cut out any in-built time delays.Thank you.

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Netflix on my TiVo takes similar, and is quite slow with menu commands etc.

It's not unacceptable, but I recently got a new Samsung TV for the bedroom and being a 2014 Quad Core model, the difference in speed in Netflix is incredible. It loads nearly instantly, and just feels like a joy to use, rather than the chore TiVo feels like.

Yes, both work, but the user experience is far better on the TV and it makes it harder to go back to TiVo for my main TV downstairs.

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I have a Fire TV, LG Bluray and WDTV, and all of those load Netflix faster than Tivo, so I never use Tivo for Netflix.

However, there are some people (OLD BOY for example) who want Tivo to do everything and don't want to buy extra boxes or upgrade to a smart TV just for 'smart features'. For those people, IMHO opinion, 45 seconds is fine.

I bought the WDTV box just to get Netflix at 1080p and 5.1 audio. If Tivo had had Netflix at the time, and was not just restricted to UK Netflix, I would quite happily have lived with the TiVo's 45 second load time and not bought the WDTV.

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Yes, it would be nice to have everything on one box, but even I am contemplating getting Fire TV or maybe a Smart TV with Amazon Instant included.

Streaming services is the answer, IMO, and so if VM provided the full range of streaming services available in their apps, I think the TIVO would be very popular indeed.

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I totally agree, it's a great feature to have, but TiVo is no longer the trailblazer it was 4 years ago hardware wise and while the software is still pretty amazing, it could do with a specification boost going forward.

As OLD BOY said, streaming services are the future, and a more powerful, versatile box would allow the TiVo software to shine through again and help provide these services in a better way.

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They won't do that, ntluser. however they could give us two options that our American counterparts have. 1) Give us Cloud storage to send our beloved recordings into cloud storage. 2) Allow us to use NAS Storage, to send our recordings to our Network drive. that way our recordings are safe from broken tivos.

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You can currently get the Fire TV stick for £19 if you are a Prime member or £7 if you aren't and take out a Prime membership at the time of purchase. Offer ends at 8:00am tomorrow. FTV Stick ships 15th April.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...pf_rd_i=468294

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How would that help if the recordings are encrypted and also tied to a particular STB? The original STB would still be required.

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Yet another mains socket required.:mad: Why can't manufacturers come up with a better power supply solution?

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Yes, I don't get why they don't come with Solar panels attached! ;):D

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Seriously, so many devices/chargers nowadays are low power 5V and/or 12V. One PSU could supply several of these devices.

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Totally agree, its like spaghetti junction at the back of my set up and most of it would run off a USB hub (a big one). Not absolutely certain about this, but the Fire stick gets its power via a USB cable so if you have a spare USB port on the TV, this may solve that particular problem.

I think I read somewhere that the EU (bless their cotton socks) have mandated common charging sockets for 'phones - wonder why something similar can't be done for STBs.

Sorry for going off topic and the rant but I do feel much better now:).

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And create a single point of failure.

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The EU have mandated how much power both 'simple' and 'complex' STBs should consume.

But there isn't really a need to worry about whether one box has the same power supply as another, as the main reason for the phone charger standard was how often people change their phone and get a new charger along with it. STBs don't get swapped as much.

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[/COLOR]The EU have mandated how much power both 'simple' and 'complex' STBs should consume.

But there isn't really a need to worry about whether one box has the same power supply as another, as the main reason for the phone charger standard was how often people change their phone and get a new charger along with it. STBs don't get swapped as much.[/QUOTE]

Appreciate your point and I'm definitely not in a position to argue from a technical point of view - just a users point of view. There are two points I would make:

1. PVRs/DVRs are basically a low-end PC dedicated to a particular purpose
2. The capabilities of these devices are limited by marketing, not hardware or software. eg. The Fire TV box can access Netflix & Amazon but not NowTV; The NowTV box can access NowTV & some on demand services but not in HD - also can't access Netflix or Amazon; Tivo can access Sky & Netflix but not NowTV or Amazon. Similar limitations apply to SkyHD, Roku etc.

If we, as consumers want to access these services then we're forced to buy/rent multiple boxes. I'd love to see a box designed where it was possible to plug in various tuners: cable, satellite, Freeview etc and purchase the services required via that box**. Now, I know that Sky, Liberty etc are not going to acceed to this because it would limit their control and be good for the consumer so I think the least the various manufacturers/service providers could do is provide us with at least a common power supply so that I don't have to crawl about labelling everything. How much simpler life would be if all the 'complex' STBs had kettle plugs or similar - it would be a start.

**There are, of course 'Smart' TVs already made with Freeview/Freesat tuners & CI slots which would do the job and and I would be interested in hearing why these are not able to be accessed by VM or Sky customers.

Sorry, I've messed up the Quote bit at the top - don't know how to fix.

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Remember for every [tag] there has to be a[/tag]

And they can be nested as in [tag1][tag2]stuff[/tag2][/tag1]

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[/COLOR] is where you've gone wrong, it should be [quote]

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[QUOTE=johnathome;35767337][/COLOR] is where you've gone wrong, it should be Thanks - i did look at that but think I spent too long in IKEA today and I'm even more tired and emotional than usual!!

---------- Post added at 18:47 ---------- Previous post was at 18:45 ----------

Thanks to you too :)

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[QUOTE=johnathome;35767337][/COLOR] is where you've gone wrong, it should be

Just replied but it diasppeared - think I should go to bed now, thanks anyway

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Looks like I have found a strange scheduling bug:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...k/td-p/2804258

Any ideas anyone?

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I think it could be the padding you have set meaning that all tuners will be gettting used?

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TiVo has 3 tuners - never had a problem recording 3 things at the same time as before. Incidentally, I note that last Monday it happily recorded Ch5, E4 and Sky 1 all at the same time:

Last Monday (successful):

8:58 -> 10:05 Revenge (E4)
8:58 -> 10:05 Gotham (C5)
8:28 -> 9:05 Driving School of Mum and Dad (Sky 1)

Note: 8:58 -> 9:05 - 7 minute overlap when all 3 tuners in use.

Monday upcoming:

7:58 -> 9:05 Revenge (E4)
8:58 -> 10:05 Made In Chelsea (E4)
8:58 -> 10:05 Gotham (C5)
8:28 -> 9:05 Driving School of Mum and Dad (Sky 1) *won't record - clashing*

It seems to me that the 7:58 -> 9:05 recording has confused the clash logic!

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So Made in Chelsea is the problem as that was not there last week and for a period of time 4 programs will be getting recorded?

if you shortened your 5 mins of padding to 2 or 3 that may help.

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Could just be a simple question of the priority of the series links. If you have the Gotham, MIC and Revenge series links all higher up the list of series links then Driving School won't be recorded. Also, try seeing if one of the 3 shows is repeated later or on a different day and record that one instead for the Driving School one to record.

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But the two E4 programmes are back-to-back hence only one tuner will be used.

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I'll probably shift Revenge to the early Tuesday morning showing to try and fix the problem, but the point is that regardless of the number of programmes being recorded there are only 3 tuners in use so there is no reason for the clash.

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Another thing that might be happening is if the E4 shows aren't on the same channel. For instance, you have the Revenge on the SD channel and MIC on the HD channel. Can be done, I only realised a couple of weeks ago that I had been recording DCI Banks in SD, not HD like I usually record my stuff.

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 3
 

The question I have about recoding is when you are about to record on 3 tuners simultaneously sometimes you get the onscreen message, about changing channels or lose one of the upcoming recordings, what triggers that message?