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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35879720)

The most-recommended comments from a poster on the Financial Times called NP1978 in response to Theresa May's interview today are worth a read.
"A very small percentage of UK voters want to leave the EU in this manner. Only stuck-in-the past Empire-dreaming right-wing sickening Tories like Johnson, Rees-Mogg, IDS, want this sort of disastrous split - quite simply because it won't affect (financially) them anyway, and they can feel again (perversely) that Brittania rules the waves again.

The majority just want a little less 'interference' - which is essentially the rubbish the awful red top press have drummed up.

This sort of split will leave our nation at the following juncture - at risk of breaking up economically and politically. Once the economy breaks up, the 'migration problem' will solve itself, as migrants do not migrate to poor countries (we should have seen so many people coming to our resource-poor island as a serious vote of confidence). On the political front, not immediately, as again the awful Tories will lie and spin - but for sure eventually, Scotland will rightly leave our Union. Ireland may unite. We are looking at a future country called England and Wales. Forget G8, we will not make G20.

As for the greatest city on the planet that is London - it will remain a major international city I feel. After all, London has been a major hub even before what is now the EU. However, without being the de facto capital of the European Union (500m bloc, the richest on the planet) and anti-immigrant messages blunting the appeal from elsewhere - I fear the city will lose its status as global number one. For rival cities, what a complete and utter gift."
Google: Theresa May indicates UK will leave single market or subscriber link at https://www.ft.com/content/6d28715a-...6aa8e#comments

no its not worth a read at all ,you have cast your vote- you lost -now sit down on the brexit bus and enjoy the ride your further participation in brexit is not required ,
thank you
ding ding next stop brexit

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35879738)

The bus that says let's spend £350 million on the NHS?

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35879727)

More doom and gloom with zero basis in fact and about as relevant as the time of day all these prophecy's of doom assume the EU continuing with no major issues a delusion in itself. Things won't be all roses and sunshine following brexit and there is going to be a lot of work for the government but it is not insurmountable by any means and the UK's prospects are still better out then in mid to longterm. As for scotland leaving the union can we please not pretend that's got anything to do with brexit because it doesn't the SNP had that aim long before the referendum.

You repeatedly say your behind brexit but constantly post nothing but negative information about it Andrew so cut the crap and just be honest about what you want because your becoming very boring.

I want Brexit to be as successful as possible. As I'm British and live in the UK, I've bags of self-interest in it.
I think it's useful to see what others are saying about Brexit and that's why I shared that post. My previous post was the write-up of the Sky News interview with the headline "Theresa May: Government not muddled over Brexit."
There have been lots of tales of worries in the past. The world didn't stop on 1/1/2000 despite talk of the millennium bug. I still read daily tails of Brexiters wanting the EU to fail but they've been busy predicting its demise since 1975. They went into overdrive to predict the imminent failure of the Euro since 1999 but that's survived the global financial crisis and is going nowhere soon. So I don't think the world will end when we leave the EU. But it will be worse off; the question is how much?
Ultimately, the UK has fared well from being within the EU. The days of dumping Austin Allegros with square steering wheels on obedient Commonwealth countries are long gone and having a market of an extra 440m people on its doorstep has benefited the UK enormously. Whether the benefits of membership have been shared between everyone in the UK is another matter.
I think in 2017 the country will start to see the negative effects of the Brexit vote as prices rise, incomes remain flat and businesses hold back from investing. The more the Government talks of a hard Brexit, the more that the Pound falls and the squeeze becomes worse. Sunday's interview has now resulted in the £ receiving a further knocking. I'm concerned that Theresa May will continue to put her party before the country. People who voted Brexit didn't do so to see themselves be 5% to 10% worse off. I'm concerned that people like Theresa May and Boris Johnson who can easily afford to take such a hit will do so for the sake of their party.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35879727)

You repeatedly say your behind brexit but constantly post nothing but negative information about it Andrew so cut the crap and just be honest about what you want because your becoming very boring.

That seems to be the modus operandi of most remoaners :shrug:

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35879738)

This post is a perfect example of the disgraceful attitude from some Brexiters .Everybody is allowed a say in how Brexit will turn out not just those who voted to leave .The prince's Trust have just released the results of a survey which says that 16-25yr olds don't feel they have any control over their lives and with attitudes like the above it's not surprising they feel that way.

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35879757)

That seems to be the modus operandi of most remoaners :shrug:

Wrong , the attitude of some Brexiters needs a serious adjustment ,EVERYBODY is allowed a say in how Brexit turns out ,as Andrew has repeatedly said we are all Brexiters now regardless of how we voted .

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35879757)

That seems to be the modus operandi of most remoaners :shrug:

Absolute claptrap RR.:nono:

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35879764)

Wrong , the attitude of some Brexiters needs a serious adjustment ,EVERYBODY is allowed a say in how Brexit turns out

Absolutely our success is dependant upon it.

But not on hard, soft, squelchy, sticky or fruity versions of Brexit.

As long as everyone understands that we are leaving the EU and all that entails, including the Single Market. Then we will negotiate our future relationship with the EU, which the remainers along with everybody else can have assay on what that new relationship will look like.

We are leaving the single market...................that's it.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35879764)

The prince's Trust have just released the results of a survey which says that 16-25yr olds don't feel they have any control over their lives and with attitudes like the above it's not surprising they feel that way.

Well then they should have voted in greater numbers, shouldn't they? :D

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EVERYBODY is allowed a say in how Brexit turns out ,as Andrew has repeatedly said we are all Brexiters now regardless of how we voted .

We'll have to agree to disagree on that point :)

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35879767)

Absolute claptrap RR.:nono:

See above :)

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35879774)

Well then they should have voted in greater numbers, shouldn't they? :D

Unlike in the Scottish independence referendum 16-18yr olds were not allowed to vote and considering they are the generation that will feel the full brunt of our decision i think that was deplorable We allow people who will be affected very little like pensioners a vote but deny the very generations that will be responsible for making it work in the near future a say in the matter

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35879784)

Well said Martyh. Really must stop agreeing with you ... ;)

Young people are increasingly disengaged from politics. That is a worry for us all in the future. Politically it may suit the Govt. for the young not to vote, or be registered, but it backfired on them in the referendum.

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There are insifficient 16 and 17 years olds in this country even if they all registered, all turned out and all voted remain to overturn the result. Stop clutching at remoaner straws.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35879789)

There are insifficient 16 and 17 years olds in this country even if they all registered, all turned out and all voted remain to overturn the result. Stop clutching at remoaner straws.

I can't think of a bigger way to miss the point

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35879784)

Well if more of the 18-25 yo range had voted we'd probably have stayed in.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35879755)

I still read daily tails of Brexiters wanting the EU to fail but they've been busy predicting its demise since 1975.

Just as selfish as any remoaner, are they not bright enough to realise if it does collapse we'll feel the shock waves whether we're in or our or doesn't that matter to them?

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35879804)

Well if more of the 18-25 yo range had voted we'd probably have stayed in.

They're far too busy being zombie pedestrians buried in their iphones to do something as real as voting.:rolleyes: