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muppetman11 15-12-2017 10:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
The big difference being BT has never had a relationship with Sky for its entertainment channels unlike VM.

Would VM be happy with it's users having to access the Sky channels through Now TV and handing Sky even more customer relationships.

denphone 15-12-2017 10:33

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928948)
The big difference being BT has never had a relationship with Sky for its entertainment channels unlike VM.

Would VM be happy with it's users having to access the Sky channels through Now TV and handing Sky even more customer relationships.

Who says its going to be through a Now TV app MM?.

muppetman11 15-12-2017 10:37

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35928950)
Who says its going to be through a Now TV app MM?.

Will they wholesale it though ? Can't see it myself but who knows I guess anything is possible. With the BT deal subscribers on BT will get access to Sky Arlantic but the customer relationship stays with Sky (Now TV).

nicknewark 15-12-2017 10:40

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It does sound as though it may happen, it wouldn't be a smart move by VM now not to secure these channels. I would imagine they(SKY) are now trying to get SA out to as many homes as they can. It may bolster Subs in a time when customers are dipping in and out of PAY TV.

denphone 15-12-2017 10:43

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928952)
Will they wholesale it though ? Can't see it myself but who knows I guess anything is possible. With the BT deal subscribers on BT will get access to Sky Arlantic but the customer relationship stays with Sky (Now TV).

Anything is possible in these changing times MM.

OLD BOY 15-12-2017 11:33

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35928954)
Anything is possible in these changing times MM.

I never thought I'd hear you say that, Den! The future beckons...f:scratch:

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928948)
The big difference being BT has never had a relationship with Sky for its entertainment channels unlike VM.

Would VM be happy with it's users having to access the Sky channels through Now TV and handing Sky even more customer relationships.

Why not, when viewers can access Now TV by alternative means anyway?

As I've said before, Now TV could be made available on VM's boxes to those subscribing to the Full House.

However, the latest developments suggest that Sky Atlantic may arrive as a linear channel rather than via Now TV.

denphone 15-12-2017 11:37

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928961)
I never thought I'd hear you say that, Den! The future beckons...f:scratch:

Now now OB you must sit down as l don't want you having one of your funny turns again.;)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928961)
I never thought I'd hear you say that, Den! The future beckons...f:scratch:

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Why not, when viewers can access Now TV by alternative means anyway?

As I've said before, Now TV could be made available on VM's boxes to those subscribing to the Full House.

However, the latest developments suggest that Sky Atlantic may arrive as a linear channel rather than via Now TV.

Crikey agreeing you is not something this old fossil usually does.:Yikes::eeek:

Gavin-D 15-12-2017 11:46

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Virgin Media is currently the only platform where you can subscribe to all the BT Sport and Sky sports channels (expect UHD) from 2019 that will no longer be the case

vincerooney 15-12-2017 12:01

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35928966)
Virgin Media is currently the only platform where you can subscribe to all the BT Sport and Sky sports channels (expect UHD) from 2019 that will no longer be the case

For now good sir. You assume it'll end in 2019.

(i thought BT contract ended in 2018 btw)

Mobes 15-12-2017 12:09

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I take it BT aren't getting Sky Sports UHD though!

Gavin-D 15-12-2017 12:21

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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35928969)
I take it BT aren't getting Sky Sports UHD though!

Correct nor are Sky getting BT Sport UHD

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35928967)
For now good sir. You assume it'll end in 2019.

(i thought BT contract ended in 2018 btw)

It does even if it is removed from the top TV pack you'd think VM will still agree a new contract to carry the channels somehow

muppetman11 15-12-2017 12:25

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35928961)
Why not, when viewers can access Now TV by alternative means anyway?

As I've said before, Now TV could be made available on VM's boxes to those subscribing to the Full House.

However, the latest developments suggest that Sky Atlantic may arrive as a linear channel rather than via Now TV.

Because VM viewers wouldnt want to have to access everything through the Now TV app when they can already record everything from Sky bar Atlantic.

I was incorrect with my earlier post as I've since read another link what suggest BT will act as an agent on BT TV selling Now TV.

I'd expect some good deals on both platforms for those wanting both BT Sport and Sky Sports.

denphone 15-12-2017 12:36

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35928973)
Correct nor are Sky getting BT Sport UHD

And even less chance of Virgin getting any UHD from these two.

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35928973)
It does even if it is removed from the top TV pack you'd think VM will still agree a new contract to carry the channels somehow

Only companies run by fools would not agree a new contract.

theone2k10 15-12-2017 13:00

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35928925)
You better repeat that as many have said that before you on this forum and have had to eat that straw hat.;):D

I'm used to eating hats with the ammount of predictions i get wrong lol.

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Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35928930)
I see that Sky and BT have agreed to share their programmes. All BTs sports channels will be available to Sky subscribers and Sky Atlantic will be available on BT via Now TV. I wonder where this leaves Virgin Media?

Source http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42364401

There goes Daves "SKY won't let anyone have SKY Atlantic" then lol, though tbf it is only via nowtv on bts platform.

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35928943)
Run that passed me again…did the boss at Sky just say that 'our leading portfolio of channels – Sky Atlantic, Sky One and Sky Living – available on ALL major Pay-TV platforms for the first time'??? There's no arguing that Virgin's TV pay-TV platform is a major one (6m households using VM's services in the UK and Ireland) and Darroch can't tell big fibs on these announcements, so I can only conclude that Sky Atlantic, either as a channel or as part of a VM Now TV offering, is on the way any day now.
(Either that, or Sky reckon that this BT deal and the Sky Q over internet service launching next year will kill Virgin TV once and for all…)

We think SKY,VM and BT will unite together with the threat of online providers such as netflix, amazon and the risk of twitter and Facebook throwing their hats into the ring too.
However i think VM are in the weakest position of the big 3 as they have no content to offer in return.
I've said it before and i know many disagree but i'll say it again VM should never of sold of their channels for a start Living was great when vm owned it but now it's a shadow of it's former self, plus by having channels VM would of had that extra bargaining chip too.

OLD BOY 15-12-2017 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928989)
I'm used to eating hats with the ammount of predictions i get wrong lol.

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There goes Daves "SKY won't let anyone have SKY Atlantic" then lol, though tbf it is only via nowtv on bts platform.

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We think SKY,VM and BT will unite together with the threat of online providers such as netflix, amazon and the risk of twitter and Facebook throwing their hats into the ring too.
However i think VM are in the weakest position of the big 3 as they have no content to offer in return.
I've said it before and i know many disagree but i'll say it again VM should never of sold of their channels for a start Living was great when vm owned it but now it's a shadow of it's former self, plus by having channels VM would of had that extra bargaining chip too.

True, but that has not stopped VM from being able to get the channels it wants on its system (with the notable exception of Sky Atlantic and AMC) to date.

What VM does have is subscribers, and by having a contractual arrangement to take Sky and BT's channels, VM will be boosting the audience figures to attract more advertising revenue (or at least to offset a fall off in viewers due to the streaming disrupters).

Things are changing rapidly in this industry and I think there is plenty to be excited about. It is particularly heartening to see Sky's monopolistic barriers coming down. Competition is at last impacting to provide customers with a better deal. There will be much more to come.


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