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Sirius 16-04-2008 16:55

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
I like this from the Guardian Newspaper

Quote:

While the controversy will continue as long as Phorm offers its invasive products, one headline summed up what is certain to be the reaction of many typical UK Internet users, from the British newspaper the Guardian: "No amount of PR will convince us to swallow Phorm."
And that is my stance as well

fidbod 16-04-2008 17:14

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Hi,

looking at the total trade volume on the London Stock exchange site it is 141,728 for today see

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/e...%20B1WTNC4PHRM

This is consistent with two sells of approximately GBP 1 million.

My initial reaction was that it was a single sell that had been reported twice so it would be well worth checking tomorrow.

mark777 16-04-2008 17:21

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
PhormUKPRteam have been looking in for a bit if anyone has any questions.

Cobbydaler 16-04-2008 17:32

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3x2 (Post 34529917)
What technology are you referring to?

Echelon I should imagine...

OF1975 16-04-2008 17:37

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
I see Alexander is showing as being active. If so I just want to say a big thank you to you, Alexander, for all you have done and for attending the meeting last night to be "our voice." That also goes for all others from this forum that attended. Superb job. I cant wait to see if channel 4 news covers the story this evening too.

CaptJamieHunter 16-04-2008 17:45

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OF1975 (Post 34530238)
I see Alexander is showing as being active. If so I just want to say a big thank you to you, Alexander, for all you have done and for attending the meeting last night to be "our voice." That also goes for all others from this forum that attended. Superb job. I cant wait to see if channel 4 news covers the story this evening too.

Hear hear! And if anyone does see and record a C4 news feature on it could they please upload it?

Started looking over the videos now. Maybe Phorm's PR team were looking to see if there was anything they could spin...

AlexanderHanff 16-04-2008 17:50

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 34529953)
What's publically known is that the NSA can quite easily break 128bit encryption keys(which is the vast majority of so called secure web traffic) and worse still it's rumoured that 256bit keys are down the pan too.

Phorm don't need to break encryption, they can just use a man in the middle attack. It is much more effective. NSA need to hire Phorm obviously.

bigboab5 16-04-2008 17:54

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter (Post 34530243)
Hear hear! And if anyone does see and record a C4 news feature on it could they please upload it?

Started looking over the videos now. Maybe Phorm's PR team were looking to see if there was anything they could spin...

Uploading it as we speak... should have a link in a few mins.

EDIT...... Just thinking, I have a WMV version of it at just under 6mb, can I upload that to here? Is it too large?

AlexanderHanff 16-04-2008 18:00

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 34530006)
Seriously I'm just trying to weed out the specifics of why you lot are so anti-phorm and imo it's down to different opinions with the two clans being seperated by

[1] Those who dislike the idea of ISPs profiting off their back.

[2] Those who think this tracks everything they do.

Personally clan[1] know what they are talking about and I'm all for their cause. Those in group [2] need some education on the subject.

ps No I don't troll however most my posts appear to give that impression. I've got to live with it and so do the people around me.

You really need to stop insulting people, whether it is intended or not that is what you are doing, including me.

It doesn't matter what Phorm claim they are doing with the data, it is all about the very fact that they are using Deep Packet Inspection and redirects and fraud to do it. You may not be technically minded but several of us are and we understand -exactly- what the dangers are with Layer 7 tech. The technology can be used to literally do anything Phorm want with your data. They can insert ads for example, or they could sell information that you read a lot about cancer to insurance companies, they could sell information about your sexual preferences, the list is literally boundless. Phorm are completely unregulated.

Why are we concerned? Because we have fundamental human rights which protect us from exactly this type of scenario and they are being ignored. If you don't value what scant rights we still have, that's your problem; I however do value those rights and I will fight tooth and nail to protect them.

I would suggest that instead of "scanning" documents, you actually go and -read- the vast amount of information available.

Alexander Hanff

CaptJamieHunter 16-04-2008 18:15

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mark777 (Post 34530228)
PhormUKPRteam have been looking in for a bit if anyone has any questions.

I'd love to know what changes Mark Ramprakash has made to his batting technique - he's started this season off with another hundred.

Well, you did say "any questions" :)

AlexanderHanff 16-04-2008 18:17

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Hi, yes I am back but I am very tired still hehe.

I can barely walk due to the shoes I was wearing last night, even my blisters have blisters, but hell it was worth it :)

Alexander Hanff

kt88man 16-04-2008 18:17

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter (Post 34530261)
I'd love to know what changes Mark Ramprakash has made to his batting technique - he's started this season off with another hundred.

Well, you did say "any questions" :)

I wouldn't look to PhormUKPRteam for the answer... they couldn't even get the weather forecast correct... :D

TehTech 16-04-2008 18:24

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff (Post 34530263)
Hi, yes I am back but I am very tired still hehe.

I can barely walk due to the shoes I was wearing last night, even my blisters have blisters, but hell it was worth it :)

Alexander Hanff

Evening Alexander!

Just 1 question: how does it feel to be a public hero?

I for 1 cannot find words to express how much I am gratefull for what you have & are still doing!

Thanks so much :)

AlexanderHanff 16-04-2008 18:31

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Just a quick update, there is a strong possibility that I will be in the BBC "Click" studio next week regarding Phorm. I just received the invite this afternoon. Another trip to London...

Alexander Hanff

---------- Post added at 18:31 ---------- Previous post was at 18:28 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by TehTech (Post 34530270)
Evening Alexander!

Just 1 question: how does it feel to be a public hero?

I for 1 cannot find words to express how much I am gratefull for what you have & are still doing!

Thanks so much :)

I am not a hero, the people who see this technology for what it is and are trying to stop it are the heros. The gentleman who was almost moved to tears in his comments on Phorm at the meeting is a hero. My friend who was good enough to drive me there, hang around at the after meeting gathering and then drive me back is a hero. Simon Davies is a hero. Richard Clayton is a hero. I am just a man fighting for liberty.

Alexander Hanff

TehTech 16-04-2008 18:34

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff (Post 34530276)
Just a quick update, there is a strong possibility that I will be in the BBC "Click" studio next week regarding Phorm. I just received the invite this afternoon. Another trip to London...

Alexander Hanff

---------- Post added at 18:31 ---------- Previous post was at 18:28 ----------



I am not a hero, the people who see this technology for what it is and are trying to stop it are the heros. The gentleman who was almost moved to tears in his comments on Phorm at the meeting is a hero. My friend who was good enough to drive me there, hang around at the after meeting gathering and then drive me back is a hero. Simon Davies is a hero. Richard Clayton is a hero. I am just a man fighting for liberty.

Alexander Hanff

I'm sure I am not the only person on here who see's it like this too!

Well done to everyone involved, and with this effort, it will be a huge blow to Phorm and hopefully pretty soon legal action can be taken against Phorm & BT, as Dr. Clayton says, it IS illegal, and the sooner someone stops this dead the better it will be for everyone!


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