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Carth 29-11-2025 15:07

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
It usually ends up with who can make the most money from the suffering of others.

I'm sure there will be a queue to grab mineral rights and construction contracts, and obviously some weapons/defence plans in case it kicks off again.

thenry 03-12-2025 18:06

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

"There is only one person in the whole world who was able to break the deadlock when it comes to the war in Ukraine, and that is the American president, Donald J. Trump - and he did."

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-w...#liveblog-body
Apparently he's a fool :rolleyes: and this horses mouth piece alongside his allies were warmongering. Make your mind up. You might offend somebody :no:

Hugh 03-12-2025 18:44

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
"Break the deadlock"?

Pretty sure Russia is still bombing and killing Ukrainians…

Chris 03-12-2025 20:32

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
That’s what the Americans call ‘blowing smoke up his ass’.

In the real world it is (hopefully) clear that Trump is trying to treat this as a property deal, with kickbacks for his handler pal Vlad and lucrative contracts for whichever American companies his bounteous grace bestows them upon.

Steve Witkoff is too stupid to see he’s being played for time, however, and the likelihood is that Putin thinks he’s doing better on the battlefield than he is, because he lives in a bunker surrounded by generals who will only tell him what he wants to hear.

pip08456 03-12-2025 21:15

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36207309)
That’s what the Americans call ‘blowing smoke up his ass’.

In the real world it is (hopefully) clear that Trump is trying to treat this as a property deal, with kickbacks for his handler pal Vlad and lucrative contracts for whichever American companies his bounteous grace bestows them upon.

Steve Witkoff is too stupid to see he’s being played for time, however, and the likelihood is that Putin thinks he’s doing better on the battlefield than he is, because he lives in a bunker surrounded by generals who will only tell him what he wants to hear.

Who gives a toss what Trump wants, or Putin or the EU? What about the Ukrainian people, who's asking them?

55% of Ukrainians object to terratorial concessions to achieve peace (https://kyivindependent.com/55-of-uk...ce-poll-finds/)

The armed forces (not the commanders)have said they will carry on fighting if the peace deal is not acceptable to them.

I posted on here months ago that Ukraine ( it's people )would never give up.
They would rather go out fighting than anything less than Russia withdrawing from the terratory.

Before you go negotiating for someone, get to know them first. If Putin doesn't withdraw then thay will be left with a guerilla war for years to come.
Ukraine is not just fighing for thier independence and terratory but also their entire identity (as Ukrainians) and existance.

Make of my post what you will.

thenry 03-12-2025 21:19

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
I care. Seeing as our own resources are being aided in Ukraine. May be withdrawing support is logical so Russia can eat Ukraine up as it should have done so by now.

OLD BOY 03-12-2025 21:26

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36207305)
"Break the deadlock"?

Pretty sure Russia is still bombing and killing Ukrainians…

At least they are talking.

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36207316)
I care. Seeing as our own resources are being aided in Ukraine. May be withdrawing support is logical so Russia can eat Ukraine up as it should have done so by now.

What about the Ukrainian people? Don’t they count for anything? Their country has been invaded, so why should they have to concede anything at the bequest of anyone?

pip08456 03-12-2025 21:27

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36207316)
I care. Seeing as our own resources are being aided in Ukraine. May be withdrawing support is logical so Russia can eat Ukraine up as it should have done so by now.

If Russia couldn't "eat up Ukrain" by now, why sould it be handed to them on a plate? As regards your own resources it has nithing to do with the rest of the country or me.

thenry 03-12-2025 21:29

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36207317)
What about the Ukrainian people? Don’t they count for anything? Their country has been invaded, so why should they have to concede anything at the bequest of anyone?

They shouldn't have got themselves in the situation in the first place. Excuse me for not crying for Ukraine.

OLD BOY 03-12-2025 21:30

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36207320)
They shouldn't have got themselves in the situation in the first place. Excuse me for not crying for Ukraine.

What are you trying to say? It was Russia who invaded Ukraine. How does that make Ukraine the guilty party?

thenry 03-12-2025 21:33

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36207319)
If Russia couldn't "eat up Ukrain" by now, why sould it be handed to them on a plate? As regards your own resources it has nithing to do with the rest of the country or me.

The only plate being used is the rest of the worlds aid to Ukraine.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36207321)
What are you trying to say? It was Russia who invaded Ukraine. How does that make Ukraine the guilty party?

Russia had its reasons.

Hugh 03-12-2025 21:37

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36207317)
At least they are talking.

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What about the Ukrainian people? Don’t they count for anything? Their country has been invaded, so why should they have to concede anything at the bequest of anyone?

No, they are telling Ukraine, and bending over to the Russians

thenry 03-12-2025 21:40

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Why don't you get over there then and change everything :rolleyes:

Customized for Ukraine. Of the willing my arse.

Paul 03-12-2025 21:43

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36207323)
Russia had its reasons.

Such as ?

(Dont forget to ask Putin what your reply should be). :rolleyes:

Hugh 03-12-2025 21:43

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36207328)
Why don't you get over there then and change everything :rolleyes:

Customized for Ukraine. Of the willing my arse.

OK, Vatnik…


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