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cheekyangus 09-04-2021 17:03

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36076567)
Have been using for a while. Excellent improvement

Glad to hear the iPlayer changes are worthwhile. :)

cheekyangus 09-04-2021 20:08

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
​I've got the latest update of the TV version of iPlayer on my V6. So it's rolling out to those not opting into the Beta now.

RichardCoulter 09-04-2021 23:24

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
I know that BBC4 has been suspended, but has VM also suspended Sky Comedy & Sky Documentaries? They are both blocked on my box :confused:

GrimUpNorth 09-04-2021 23:37

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36076605)
I know that BBC4 has been suspended, but has VM also suspended Sky Comedy & Sky Documentaries? They are both blocked on my box :confused:

Both Sky channels working on our Sky Q box. Sure you've paid your bill this month? :D

Legendkiller2k 10-04-2021 01:56

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36076605)
I know that BBC4 has been suspended, but has VM also suspended Sky Comedy & Sky Documentaries? They are both blocked on my box :confused:

Both channels working fine on SKYQ here.
Not seen anything mentioned on twitter either.

spiderplant 10-04-2021 10:07

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36076605)
I know that BBC4 has been suspended, but has VM also suspended Sky Comedy & Sky Documentaries? They are both blocked on my box :confused:

What happens when you try to tune to them? Are HD and SD versions both affected (assuming you subscribe to both)?

RichardCoulter 10-04-2021 12:43

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36076627)
What happens when you try to tune to them? Are HD and SD versions both affected (assuming you subscribe to both)?

It said 'Not authorised' in the same way that RTE Radio did three years ago when there was a software fault.

It seems to have righted itself upon checking this morning, I had wondered if VM had blocked Sky Comedy as they felt it innappropriate to show this during a period of national mourning, but then found that Sky Documentaries was blocked too!

1andrew1 10-04-2021 12:57

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36076632)
It said 'Not authorised' in the same way that RTE Radio did three years ago when there was a software fault.

It seems to have righted itself upon checking this morning, I had wondered if VM had blocked Sky Comedy as they felt it innappropriate to show this during a period of national mourning, but then found that Sky Documentaries was blocked too!

It would be up to the channels themselves what they show or don't show, not the platforms they're on.

RichardCoulter 10-04-2021 13:06

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36076635)
It would be up to the channels themselves what they show or don't show, not the platforms they're on.

Yeah but I thought that VM might have taken it upon itself to not show material on it's platform that may cause laughter in the current circumstances, even though Sky had decided not to pull the channel.

It would be interesting to know if a carriage agreement means that those who pay for channels have to show them once they've paid for them??

jfman 10-04-2021 13:16

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I think you are overthinking the matter to a laughable extent.

Hugh 10-04-2021 13:17

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36076638)
Yeah but I thought that VM might have taken it upon itself to not show material on it's platform that may cause laughter in the current circumstances, even though Sky had decided not to pull the channel.

It would be interesting to know if a carriage agreement means that those who pay for channels have to show them once they've paid for them??

That would be an enormous breach of contract, so extremely unlikely...

Legendkiller2k 10-04-2021 13:54

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36076638)
Yeah but I thought that VM might have taken it upon itself to not show material on it's platform that may cause laughter in the current circumstances, even though Sky had decided not to pull the channel.

It would be interesting to know if a carriage agreement means that those who pay for channels have to show them once they've paid for them??

Under agreements carriers are not allowed to block channels without exceptional reaso..

RichardCoulter 10-04-2021 16:52

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Thanks. It would obviously be pointless, but I wasn't sure if a platform could buy the right to broadcast a channel & not do so when I was trying to work out why Sky Comedy was blocked.

It makes sense that it would be in the contract that they have to show a channel that they've bought the rights for as this would help the channel owner to increase ad revenue.

I've only ever known this happen on Freeview where one of the 'text n tits' type channels finished broadcasting for the night. An error meant that a frozen picture of a woman's breasts carried on being broadcast, prompting complaints from people when children started channel surfing later on that morning.

The channel couldn't be contacted to remedy the situation, so in the end Arqiva had to be contacted to cut the feed.

OLD BOY 10-04-2021 20:17

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Yes, but I expect the channel was breaching its contract in allowing that picture to be displayed outside its broadcasting hours.

jfman 10-04-2021 21:30

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36076680)
Yes, but I expect the channel was breaching its contract in allowing that picture to be displayed outside its broadcasting hours.

I agree, I don’t see how Richard can see the two situations as comparable.

If someone in the supply chain is aware that a channel is broadcasting 18 or 15 rated content out of hours (inadvertently or otherwise) then I’d expect them to take reasonable steps to pull the plug. I’m sure OFCOM would take the same view.

The extent to which these processes are automated would be a reasonable defence for operators.


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