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Carth 11-06-2020 22:56

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
It's on the BBC news page . . buried under UK > England > Regions > London

edit: now under England

pip08456 11-06-2020 22:56

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36039481)
I think it does highlight that policing here is different to the states which is something relevant to the moment. I don't think the same issues that inspired the BLM protests in America are the ones we have here, I think there are different ones.

I don't think the media is trying to bury it, it's just an issue that never gets the coverage it deserves. This is from last year showing it's increasing: https://fullfact.org/crime/assaults-on-police-officers/

Since you mentioned the states here's a cop who laid it bare for the media.

https://twitter.com/stclairashley/st...12559317831680

figgyburn 12-06-2020 11:41

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
https://www.facebook.com/thehodgetwi...6224299590951/

An interesting watch.

Damien 12-06-2020 12:09

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36039484)
Since you mentioned the states here's a cop who laid it bare for the media.

https://twitter.com/stclairashley/st...12559317831680

It's a pretty powerful video.

I don't know what they're going to do in America. You need the police. The people who think you don't are a minority.

However, you have a much wider amount of people who think they need reform and a police force who are resisting. There seems to be little self-awareness about why people are angry or that they need to change.

You need someone to step up and try to reach a consensus that brings the institution of the police - if not all the officers - on board. Better training, more accountability, better recruitment and management.

That video of Geroge Floyd was sick. They just didn't care. He couldn't breathe, he wasn't resisting arrest and people were begging the police officer to let him breathe but the officer just sat there with his knee on Floyd's neck and he slowly died calling out for his mother. Even after he passed out, down was knee. And this was the police, what can you do if the police are the ones doing this? If someone pushed the officer off Floyd they would be arrested and best or subjected to the same violence at worse.

And it was all on video and the officer wasn't arrested until the riots started. If there was no video that police officer would be on the streets today.

I don't know how they're going to solve this.

Maggy 12-06-2020 13:01

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/5341884002/

Just to point out how far the racism goes..

1andrew1 12-06-2020 13:30

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36039548)
I don't know how they're going to solve this.

It also seems that there is a problem with the police unions which delay and prevent disciplining of its members. They've almost become too successful.
Minneapolis is changing quite drastically on this front.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneap...-negotiations/

papa smurf 12-06-2020 17:28

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Lundun saved by are tommy :)


Black Lives Matter protest in London's Hyde Park cancelled over far-right fears
Former English Defence League (EDL) leader Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, has backed calls by the Democratic Football Lads Alliance for people to travel to London to protect monuments during the Black Lives Matter protest


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...ndons-22180297

1andrew1 12-06-2020 17:33

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36039590)
Lundun saved by are tommy :)

Black Lives Matter protest in London's Hyde Park cancelled over far-right fears
Former English Defence League (EDL) leader Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, has backed calls by the Democratic Football Lads Alliance for people to travel to London to protect monuments during the Black Lives Matter protest

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...ndons-22180297

For once, he's done the country a favour as more mass gatherings will only spread the virus.

papa smurf 12-06-2020 17:39

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36039592)
For once, he's done the country a favour as more mass gatherings will only spread the virus.

just doing his patriotic duty :erm:

Hugh 13-06-2020 14:22

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36039595)
just doing his patriotic duty :erm:

Nothing displays "patriotism" more than doing Nazi salutes and shouting "F... the police!" at the police cordon 100m from the Cenotaph, and throwing bottles and smoke bombs at the police in Parliament Square.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271755011777794048

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271761377317851136

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271774991454015489

Giving Nazi salutes while defending a statue of Churchill is some outstanding cognitive dissonance.

Carth 13-06-2020 14:51

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Not sure I saw any 'Nazi salutes' in those clips Hugh, maybe it's the thought that counts eh ;)

denphone 13-06-2020 15:06

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36039644)
Not sure I saw any 'Nazi salutes' in those clips Hugh, maybe it's the thought that counts eh ;)

Giving Nazi salutes while protecting a statue of Winston Churchill takes some galactic level of stupidity don't you agree.

papa smurf 13-06-2020 15:06

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36039641)
Nothing displays "patriotism" more than doing Nazi salutes and shouting "F... the police!" at the police cordon 100m from the Cenotaph, and throwing bottles and smoke bombs at the police in Parliament Square.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271755011777794048

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271761377317851136

https://twitter.com/i/status/1271774991454015489

Giving Nazi salutes while defending a statue of Churchill is some outstanding cognitive dissonance.

Is are Tommy even there?

Damien 13-06-2020 15:35

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36039644)
Not sure I saw any 'Nazi salutes' in those clips Hugh, maybe it's the thought that counts eh ;)

About 12 secs into that first clear there is clearly one, at first it's not clear if they're all just pointing at an odd angle but nope. Nazi salute.

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This is turning nasty: https://twitter.com/VinnieoDowd/stat...74513831849985

BenMcr 13-06-2020 16:12

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36039652)

Yup https://twitter.com/chowmina_/status...257780736?s=21


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