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Chris 25-06-2020 22:00

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Maxine Peake is an odious hard leftie, and a former member of the Communist party of GB, prone to making ridiculous statements and really oughtn’t to be casually re-tweeted by anyone, ever.

1andrew1 25-06-2020 22:14

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
As Matt Forde notes
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Keir Starmer draws a contrast not just with Jeremy Corbyn but with Boris Johnson. Corbyn and Johnson are part of the same political culture, promoting and standing by toxic individuals. Starmer is showing the way to a new, more decent era.


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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36041244)
Maxine Peake is an odious hard leftie, and a former member of the Communist party of GB, prone to making ridiculous statements and really oughtn’t to be casually re-tweeted by anyone, ever.

But she did lead to the last Corbynista being sacked from the front bench so she has her uses. :D

Hugh 25-06-2020 22:15

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36041244)
Maxine Peake is an odious hard leftie, and a former member of the Communist party of GB, prone to making ridiculous statements and really oughtn’t to be casually re-tweeted by anyone, ever.

Agreed, but to be fair*, so was Munira Mirza, Director of the Number 10 Policy Unit... :D

*for complete accuracy, Peake was a member of the Communist Party of Britain, whilst Mirza was a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (Marxist-Leninist), but to anyone outside the arcane, convoluted and ever-splitting world of the British Communist Community, two cheeks of the same arse.

Damien 26-06-2020 08:53

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36041244)
Maxine Peake is an odious hard leftie, and a former member of the Communist party of GB, prone to making ridiculous statements and really oughtn’t to be casually re-tweeted by anyone, ever.

While we're at Starmer can't have been too pleased with the article itself saying anyone who didn't vote Labour voted Tory. Not only is it wrong but it also buys into the toxic notion held by some in the party that voting Tory is a sin beyond redemption.

Chris 26-06-2020 10:57

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36041278)
While we're at Starmer can't have been too pleased with the article itself saying anyone who didn't vote Labour voted Tory. Not only is it wrong but it also buys into the toxic notion held by some in the party that voting Tory is a sin beyond redemption.

That sort of sentiment is pretty common on social media ... it’s been common enough on more traditional discussion platforms like this one for many years. What’s changed specifically with regards to the Labour Party is that the hard left got close enough to power for long enough that there are people in high-profile positions in the parliamentary party who lack the sense to differentiate between their own party’s lunatic fringe and mainstream sentiment. Wrong-Daily, I think, just saw something that 1. Slagged off Tories; 2. Bigged up Labour; and 3. Said something suitably woke about BLM. Beyond that I doubt she’s sufficiently well connected to the real world to understand, even now, what was so wrong with it.

Damien 26-06-2020 11:49

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36041298)
That sort of sentiment is pretty common on social media ... it’s been common enough on more traditional discussion platforms like this one for many years. What’s changed specifically with regards to the Labour Party is that the hard left got close enough to power for long enough that there are people in high-profile positions in the parliamentary party who lack the sense to differentiate between their own party’s lunatic fringe and mainstream sentiment. Wrong-Daily, I think, just saw something that 1. Slagged off Tories; 2. Bigged up Labour; and 3. Said something suitably woke about BLM. Beyond that I doubt she’s sufficiently well connected to the real world to understand, even now, what was so wrong with it.

That's also why they're reacting with great shock now. They're so used to crackpot theories being acceptable that to be called out on them feels unfair.

Mr K 26-06-2020 18:37

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36041244)
Maxine Peake is an odious hard leftie, and a former member of the Communist party of GB, prone to making ridiculous statements and really oughtn’t to be casually re-tweeted by anyone, ever.

Very good actress though. There are also lots of odious hard 'righty' people around....

Chris 26-06-2020 22:36

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36041349)
Very good actress though. There are also lots of odious hard 'righty' people around....

Yup, and Question Time proves, week in, week out, that just because someone’s a great actor, doesn’t mean their political views should be elevated above those of the hundred or so voters in the plebs seats.

Also, that’s “whataboutery”. ;)

Damien 26-06-2020 23:10

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Looks like the hard left within the party have backed off their outrage for now anyway, probably dawned on them that rebelling because Starmer took firm action on anti-semitism would be an awful look for them and a fight they’ll would lose.

Chris 27-06-2020 00:33

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
That doesn’t seem to have stopped them in the past. There was a petition doing the rounds earlier, demanding Starmer reinstate her. It was close to 15,000 signatures.

1andrew1 27-06-2020 00:52

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36041383)
That doesn’t seem to have stopped them in the past. There was a petition doing the rounds earlier, demanding Starmer reinstate her. It was close to 15,000 signatures.

I wonder how many of those were Conservative Party supporters? ;)

Maggy 27-06-2020 08:50

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36041380)
Looks like the hard left within the party have backed off their outrage for now anyway, probably dawned on them that rebelling because Starmer took firm action on anti-semitism would be an awful look for them and a fight they’ll would lose.

I know of several who have already left the Labour party.They are going to be looking elsewhere to place their vote.

Hugh 27-06-2020 15:59

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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This was the Leader column in one of the National newspapers today - can you guess which one?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1593269914

Chris 27-06-2020 15:59

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Typeface looks like the Mail, whose particular interest would be in slagging off Dirty Desmond.

papa smurf 27-06-2020 16:16

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36041443)
This was the Leader column in one of the National newspapers today - can you guess which one?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1593269914

I think it's the daily no one cares,ohh look a green bunny rabbit riding a bicycle.


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