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Stuart 03-10-2009 14:24

Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34883006)
affirmative guv

Says a lot about you..

papa smurf 03-10-2009 14:26

Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34883029)
Says a lot about you..

do tell

Stuart 03-10-2009 14:29

Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs
 
Thats off topic. However, unless some evidence appears that the thread title is correct, I may well change it.

papa smurf 03-10-2009 14:30

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34883035)
Thats off topic. However, unless some evidence appears that the thread title is correct, I may well change it.

348 posts in and you want to change it ?

Stuart 03-10-2009 14:36

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Produce some evidence it is correct and I won't..

papa smurf 03-10-2009 14:50

Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34883041)
Produce some evidence it is correct and I won't..

im not getting into childish squabble about thread titles .

Stuart 03-10-2009 15:40

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34883043)
im not getting into childish squabble about thread titles .

Fair enough. I also realise that you have essentially just used the Headline the Fail printed.

I would be interested to hear exactly what was said (although I realise that we probably never will, certainly not from the Mail who seem to have a definite agenda here).

It's worth noting that the headline is not really backed up by the story, which only presents one side.

I wonder how the case would have progressed had the Christian Institute not got involved. CI seem to be Christian Fundamentalists, and, TBH, I suspect are using this case to push their own agenda. Which means, to my mind, whoever wins most from this case, it certainly won't be either the couple or the muslim woman.

arcamalpha2004 04-10-2009 13:32

Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs
 
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34882988)
We do not know exactly what was said, all we know about the warlord and islamic dress is what the couple and their support team have said in the papers, you know, which you've claimed they've been told they can't tell us :rolleyes:

The aggrieved woman, from what I have seen has not discussed matters relating to the case (ie what was said to offend her), but has been forced to go to the media to show she is a white Brit due to recieving death threats and other awful comments.


Bringing the colour issue into it Xaccers ?
Been forced to go to the press ?
Total crap ( moderating my language )
She is not forced to go to the media, prove your point.





Neither are accurate given the information we've been shown by the media.
Papasmurf, perhaps if you put a bit more thought into your thread title accuracy in future?

Why should he/she? if there were any issues something should have been said at the time he/she put the post up, dont try dumming down debate.

Chris 04-10-2009 13:41

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34881916)
Now, bearing in mind that these have been written, in far more moderate language than is really believed, I think we can surmise that the "Christian" Institute does not hold the Christian values one would expect, i.e., tolerance, forgiveness and understanding.

I think we can surmise that you understand a lot less about Christianity than you think you do.

Flyboy 04-10-2009 20:56

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Err...no I think your summation is incorrect. I know a great deal about "Christianity." Mrs Flyboy is a lay preacher. I have spent many hours of healthy debate with her and her colleagues, on the subject.

Chris 04-10-2009 21:25

Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs
 
Great, but that doesn't mean you understand the subject. If you'd been listening to Mrs Flyboy during all those hours of debate, you wouldn't still be setting up tolerance, forgiveness and understanding as absolute virtues in the absence of righteousness and truth.

There are a lot of Christian values. If you're going to show any respect for them you'll try a little harder to understand how they all fit together - all of them - rather than simply shouting about the ones that happen to be convenient to your point.

Flyboy 04-10-2009 21:42

Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs
 
So, which of these "values" do you think are at stake here? Which of these values refer to Christians berating another person for the clothes they wear?

danielf 04-10-2009 22:24

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34883943)
Great, but that doesn't mean you understand the subject. If you'd been listening to Mrs Flyboy during all those hours of debate, you wouldn't still be setting up tolerance, forgiveness and understanding as absolute virtues in the absence of righteousness and truth.

There are a lot of Christian values. If you're going to show any respect for them you'll try a little harder to understand how they all fit together - all of them - rather than simply shouting about the ones that happen to be convenient to your point.

Out of interest: what denomination of Christianity do you subscribe to? The reason I ask is that it appears to me that different branches of Christianity have different interpretations and rankings of these virtues (or the Bible for that matter).

Russ 04-10-2009 22:28

Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs
 
Off topic - that can be discussed via PM.

danielf 04-10-2009 22:38

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If you don't mind, I'll leave it up to your fellow mod to decide if he wants to answer that question in public or via PM...


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