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Aah, apologies, but nothing since nineteen eighty-two before then.

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yes it was a long time ago. It's a shame all these great teams of the past a no longer with us.

As for Sauber now BMW they did at one point have the most advanced wind tunnel in F1, I think it was one of the first full scale tunnels, plus they now have "Albert" one of the worlds most powerful super computers, add into that the BMW staff in Munich and you can see why they made progress. I think the staff have doubled since BMW took over.

Do feel sorry for Kubica though they abandoned development of the car last year so they could concentrate on this years car and gave up a chance at the title. This years car so far isn't working very well and so with hindsight that doesn't look a good decision

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Might not work very well but after watching it in China it is a tough little beastie!!!!

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Correct, Ligier's last win before Panis in Monaco 1996 was Laffite in 1981. Panis would have probably won for Prost at some point had he not had that awful accident in Canada in 1997.

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Based on the results so far how long have Piquet and Bourdais got ? Both have been destroyed by their team mates this year.

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I think Bourdais's record from last year may help him and Piquet's obvious familial connections may also save him this year, but I doubt his option will be taken up for next year.

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Eeeekkkk, less than 10 minutes left in this practice session and Hamilton is top of the timing board by a big margin

Also had to laugh at a text to the BBC from one of thier viewers ---------- Post added at 09:43 ---------- Previous post was at 09:21 ----------

Friday's first practice session results

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.647 19
2 6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:33.907 0.260 17
3 5 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:33.938 0.291 17
4 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:34.227 0.580 24
5 22 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:34.434 0.787 15
6 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.502 0.855 24
7 23 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:34.531 0.884 18
8 3 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:34.589 0.942 17
9 14 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:34.827 1.180 21
10 4 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:34.827 1.180 19
11 17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:34.880 1.233 24
12 15 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:34.938 1.291 21
13 8 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:34.974 1.327 21
14 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:35.021 1.374 18
15 9 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:35.036 1.389 22
16 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:35.042 1.395 16
17 10 Timo Glock Toyota 1:35.333 1.686 20
18 7 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:35.348 1.701 24
19 11 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:35.353 1.706 22
20 12 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:35.369 1.722 15

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Second practice times:

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:33.339 36
2 7 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:33.530 0.191 25
3 9 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:33.616 0.277 37
4 15 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:33.661 0.322 29
5 14 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:33.676 0.337 32
6 22 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:33.694 0.355 35
7 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:33.763 0.424 30
8 10 Timo Glock Toyota 1:33.764 0.425 37
9 23 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:33.885 0.546 30
10 17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:33.899 0.560 36
11 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.994 0.655 30
12 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:34.025 0.686 23
13 12 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:34.127 0.788 37
14 11 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:34.366 1.027 26
15 8 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:34.411 1.072 29
16 3 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:34.564 1.225 34
17 5 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:34.605 1.266 31
18 4 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:34.670 1.331 28
19 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.764 1.425 35
20 6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:34.790 1.451 33

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Either Alonso and Renault are sandbagging majorly, or their car's not exactly quick round the desert! Brawn are running heavy to figure out which type of tyre should be used when in the race, and I think they'll have competition for pole if they run heavier than most in qualifying. They'll run away with the race though - I reckon about 20 seconds on the field at the end, provided there's no last-minute safety car. :D

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BBC times today for the following

Third practice: 0855-1005 (red button/online)
Qualifying: 1100-1315 (BBC1/red button/online)

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Saturdays Practice times

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 10 Timo Glock Toyota 1:32.605
2 3 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:32.728 0.123
3 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:32.906 0.301
4 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:32.975 0.370
5 4 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:32.986 0.381
6 8 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:33.176 0.571
7 5 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:33.195 0.590
8 17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:33.302 0.697
9 9 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:33.397 0.792
10 6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:33.415 0.810
11 15 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:33.443 0.838
12 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.478 0.873
13 7 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:33.482 0.877
14 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:33.534 0.929
15 22 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:33.586 0.981
16 23 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:33.686 1.081
17 12 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:33.720 1.115
18 14 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:33.726 1.121
19 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:33.962 1.357
20 11 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:34.990 2.385

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Qualifying results

1 italy Jarno Trulli 9 Toyota 1:33.431
2 germany Timo Glock 10 Toyota 1:33.712
3 germany Sebastian Vettel 15 Red Bull-Renault 1:34.015
4 great britain Jenson Button 22 Brawn-Mercedes 1:34.044
5 great britain Lewis Hamilton 1 McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.196
6 brazil Rubens Barrichello 23 Brawn-Mercedes 1:34.239
7 spain Fernando Alonso 7 Renault 1:34.578
8 brazil Felipe Massa 3 Ferrari 1:34.818
9 germany Nico Rosberg 16 Williams-Toyota 1:35.134
10 finland Kimi Raikkonen 4 Ferrari 1:35.380
11 finland Heikki Kovalainen 2 McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.242
12 japan Kazuki Nakajima 17 Williams-Toyota 1:33.348
13 poland Robert Kubica 5 BMW Sauber 1:33.487
14 germany Nick Heidfeld 6 BMW Sauber 1:33.562
15 brazil Nelson Piquet Jr 8 Renault 1:33.941
16 germany Adrian Sutil 20 Force India-Mercedes 1:33.722
17 switzerland Sebastien Buemi 12 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:33.753
18 italy Giancarlo Fisichella 21 Force India-Mercedes 1:33.910
19 australia Mark Webber 14 Red Bull-Renault 1:34.038
20 france Sebastien Bourdais 11 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:34.159

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I think Sutil has now been sent to the back of the grid

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not that it helps Webber much , at least he was man enough to own up to his mistake !

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