Originally Posted by Downloads (Post 34244498)

I'm not quite sure exclusivity does always generate the most amount of money. This year by forcing the football to go to at least 2 providers, it generated much more money than when previously bought solely by Sky. Viewing figures hadn't vastly increased to justify the extra cash being pumped in, it was allowing more than one person the chance to own a licence that did it.

I know it' slightly different, you can't have 6 packs for one show, but i wonder what would happen if they allowed 3 licences say, priced at half the price of what they accepted from the top bidder. Would be interesting!

Originally Posted by Scott_1984 (Post 34245120)

We shouldn't be afraid of Sky & under laws, Sky couldn't own/rule every channel/network, even if it owned all the rights in the first place.

No one in the Uk are going to allow Sky to be bullies, even if they think they own all the programes/shows or rights to shows/programes & channels.

Lost Series 3 was bought by Sky, but remember Channel4/E4 & E4+1 had Lost Series 1 & Lost Series 2 & they even bought Lost Series 2 forward.

Virginmedia & Channel4/E4 & E4+1 could easliy but Lost Series 3, & or out bid for futures programes/shows.

Sky bore me, they are slow, over priced & the dishes are horrible & banned under most estate tenant agreements.

Under my tenants argeement I ant allowed Sky or any sat/dishes.

We are only allowed Freeview, Cable, Homechoice, ect.

Take Care & Take It Easy :¬)

We're listening
Thanks for taking the time to tell us how you feel. We've had an amazing response, with over 200,000 of you visiting the website, and more than 30,000 of you telling us your thoughts.

We've had a really good look through your messages and the vast majority of comments fit into 4 main categories:

First of all, many of you said that you think Sky has been using unfair or bullying tactics during the dispute, and that you support us in standing up to Sky.

A number of you also said that you're thinking of leaving Virgin Media and switching to another service provider, as you're disappointed to be losing the channels.

There were also many of your comments that suggested we use the money we're saving to either reduce the monthly cost for Virgin Media customers or to invest in new TV content and improve our service.

However, by far-and-away the largest number of you simply think that we should stop getting caught up in headline battles with Sky, and sort the situation out in a way that's fair for everybody. We agree. So here's what's going on right now:

Because we want a fair deal for everybody, we've offered to re-open negotiations using an independent body to oversee talks. Sky refused.
We've forwarded our complaints about Sky's tactics to Ofcom, who deal with companies acting unfairly or illegally in the TV industry. This means we can concentrate on what's important – our customers.
On 5th March, we advised Sky that if an agreement isn't reached within 30 days, we'll pursue action in the High Court. This action will challenge Sky for its abuse of dominance.
As we said, passing our complaints to the proper authorities allows us to get on with making your service as good as it possibly can be. And we've already started. For instance, we're doubling the amount of on demand TV you can watch – from 2,700 hours to over 6,000. That means great shows like Lost, Nip/Tuck, Curb Your Enthusiasm and Six Feet Under – all available as and when you want them. And you won't have to put up with pesky adverts every five minutes either.

We hope this helps explain the issues you've raised, and thanks again for taking the time to get in touch.

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/fairplay/say.html

Scott :¬)

Originally Posted by TV Boy (Post 34246544)

I got an phone call from Sky today asking me to join them. The woman on the phone was talking to me for about 10mins or so. She offers me TWO MONTHS free on Family pack and Sky Sports. When I ask the woman 'Can I keep my Virgin Media phone'? She says 'Sorry you will have to join BT.' Then I told her 'I can't get BT in has I pull a BT line out in 1998. And also I never watch your Sky Basic Channels on Virgin Media anyway.'

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34246574)

Not sounding good there TV boy, the girl didn't know what she was talking about - you can have Sky and a Virgin Telephone line. Why you'd want to keep the over prices under featured line is a whole other debate. :)

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34246574)

Not sounding good there TV boy, the girl didn't know what she was talking about - you can have Sky and a Virgin Telephone line. Why you'd want to keep the over prices under featured line is a whole other debate. :)

Originally Posted by TV Boy (Post 34248524)

From Todays Sunday Times



For the full story http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle1496438.ece

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34248541)

More of an advert than a story ;)

Being discussed here due to the mention of VM's upcoming 20mbps service: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...nd-of-may.html



As for




Completely wrong.


Although that part of the "news story" is talking about moving from Virgin to Sky, it is talking about "Virgin customers who wish to leave for Sky and who only want TV", in which case they would presumably still have (or could have) Virgin broadband & a Virgin phoneline.

You do not need a BT line for Sky Digital - the digibox is quite happy when connected to a Virgin media phone line... all it wants is a phone line, it doesn't care who provides it.


You need a BT line for "Sky Talk" though. And you obviously need one for Sky Broadband (ADSL).

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34248541)

You do not need a BT line for Sky Digital - the digibox is quite happy when connected to a Virgin media phone line... all it wants is a phone line, it doesn't care who provides it.

Originally Posted by alferret (Post 34248574)

It does care, we want to go on to Vonage for our phone but SKY dont allow (ATM) their STB connected to the Vonage network.