Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

My suggestion was that there should have been a simple choice of 1TB or 2TB. If people only need 500GB, the 1TB fits with that requirement. Who would complain about too much space?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

People who don't believe they should pay for an extra 500GB when not needed.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

What about those who only want 200GB?

I don't think anyone has complained about having too much space with the V6, Mythica! :D

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Wasn't that my point of where does it end? Why are your needs greater than someone else's?

I've not said anyone has complained about it. I was making a point of why someone wouldn't want 1TB if 500GB is enough yet they have to pay for it. 1TB is plenty enough for the majority of VM customers and as you can't please everyone, it's the middle ground they went for.

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Sky offered the choice of 1TB or 2TB. I don't see why Virgin couldn't have done the same, particularly given the plans for UHD channels, which will take up a lot more space.. It's a reasonable observation, I don't know why you are arguing about it.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Looks like BT Sports have lost UFC

http://elevensports.com/eleven-sport...k-and-ireland/

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Crime and inv. Is now on channel 223 (also on channel 275), Crime and inv. +1 is now on channel 295 (also on channel 224) and Crime and inv. HD is now on channel 272 (also on channel 222).

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I've having an opinion, not arguing about it. They could have had a choice but they didn't, probably because 1TB is plenty enough for the vast majority of VM customers, even with 4K here. When 4K has more channels, there is nothing stopping them offering a 2TB box. Those of us with 2 V6 boxes already have 2TB.

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At which point, we lose all our recordings. Good thinking, Mythica.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

It's not all about you, you're not their only customer. I'm not sure why we're debating what ifs, they didn't release a 2TB box.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Sky had to offer a 2TB box because their mini boxes have NO STORAGE, as I understand.
So, in fact, Virgin Media offer a better solution, given multiple V6s versus SkyQ plus minis.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Well to start with every UHD recording (normally 2.5 - 3 hrs each) has released 5% disk space when deleted. This equates to around 60 hrs recording.

Some have said this 5% is incorrect, but it is what happens each time (BT Sports 4K)

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When I joined Virgin, the 2Tb box featured in their advertising blurb, after a bit it was quietly dropped.

One of the reasons I ditched sky was the fact they wouldn't allow multiple skyQ 2Tb boxes - again sky originally said they would then removed reference to this.

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Schrödinger’s V6; where 100% is simultaneously 50 and 60 hours of UHD recording.

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Ah, I see. You are recording 20 football matches over 8 days on the BT Sports UHD channel.
I was unaware BT showed so many football matches in such a short period of time.

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Must get Media Boy to update his 4K football thread. It shows nowhere like 20 games over any 8 day period.

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I really don't understand why VM have this. Unless they are preparing to move C+I into the Entertainment section and move History HD to channel 275.

Either this or VM are creating placeholders for some early Christmas presents?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Good. It looks like VM are finally bringing the Crime + Investigation channels together on 222/223/224 and then probably the History channels on 270/271/272.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

If History Channels was set to be put together why did Virgin put Crime + Investigation HD on Channel 272?

We think Virgin do not even knows what they are doing.

The Virgin EPG is an joke.

Here is our ideal Virgin EPG (As of June 1st 2018):

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...ew-virgin.html

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It is crazy. C&I SD channels in the Entertainment section with HD in the Factual.

Were there not rumours that H2 was planned for content changes in the future?

Could it be that H2 is moving with C&I replacing it?

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I really don't understand this preoccupation with channel numbers. Why does it matter, given that you can select categories of channels from the EPG from the TV Guide menu (movies, documentaries, sport, etc)?

Yes, it could be tidier, but why this causes concern to some, I really cannot fathom.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

The Crime + Investigation channels that appeared on Friday on Channels 222, 272 and 295 was new. The Total channels want up by three.

So Virgin Media have find room to broadcast SIX Crime + Investigation Channels.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Totally agree with you, OB.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

:rolleyes:

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+1 OB

I know having a clean and tidy EPG would be lovely, but takes some work.

I don't know if everyone is the same, but most of my TV viewings, apart from live sport, is done through my recordings. The V6 knows which channels the programmes I want recorded are on, so I don't have to remember each channel number :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Same here. I use favorite channels if I want to look for something, not bothered what channel numbers there on.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Plus, there's the problem that channels come and go, which can cause havoc with a nicely ordered EPG. To keep it up to date, you would have to be constantly jiggling the numbers, which people would probably find irritating.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

We are busy tonight updating our blog and we need your help (if you can).

Do we have the right information (Name, are they still broadcasting) for your local channel?

Virgin Media carry local TV Channels on Virgin UK Channel 159.

01) London Live (In Croydon, Hersham, Hayes, Watford, Haringey, Seven Kings, Bromley and Lewisham areas only.)
02) Notts TV (In Nottingham areas only.)
03) Latest TV (In Brighton & Hove areas only.)
04) Sheffield Live TV (In Sheffield areas only.)
05) NVTV (In Belfast areas only).
06) Made in Bristol (In Bristol areas only).
07) Made in Cardiff (In Cardiff areas only).
08) Made in Leeds (In Leeds areas only).
09) Made in Tyne and Wear (In Newcastle areas only).
10) Made in Liverpool (In Liverpool areas only).
11) That's Norfolk (In Norwich areas only).
12) Made in Birmingham (In Birmingham areas only).
13) That's Cambridge (In Cambridge areas only).
14) That's Swansea Bay (In Swansea areas only).
15) Made in Teesside (In Middlesbrough areas only).
16) KMTV (In Kent areas only).

Our local Channel - STV2 - was axe this past summer.

Thanks for any information.

Also do anyone Know if Food Network +1 or Travel Channel +1 is still testing - no updates in weeks.

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Notts TV still broadcasting in Nottm. I'm just outside Mansfield and we get it on VM159.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

For all those Christmas fans out there.

I have it on good authority that:
Movies24 is to be renamed Christmas24 on 20th October. Bet you all can't wait :-)

I'm sure they get earlier every year lol

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Wake me up when it renames itself back..;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Haha :D:D

Then you've got Sky Cinema Christmas to look forward too ;):angel:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Did someone say Sky Cinema?

Sky Cinema Greats will be know as Sky Cinema Cinema Superheroes from October 6th for four weeks.

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We have found that Virgin Media has move the following channels to new streams since Monday:

NOTE: When channels are moved you will need to re add them to your list of "Favourite Channels" on TiVo boxes.

EPG - Channel name
122 - Sky Arts
132 - Comedy Central
157 - FOX
225 - Lifetime +1
511 - Sky Sports Main Event
516 - Sky Sports F1
517 - Sky Sports Action
706 - Cartoonito
740 - QVC
741 - QVC Beauty
742 - QVC Style
927 - talkSPORT
928 - Magic Radio
963 - Kiss FM

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Sky Cinema Cinema Superheroes?

Good luck getting that all on the EPG

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Agreed Mr D.

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I’m quite surprised to see it, so unsure if it’s an issue with flags instead of the actual broadcast, but the most recent scans on digital bitrate seem to indicate Virgin are trialling MPEG 4 for SD channels.

Diagnostics of ITV3 SD on my V6 show the video stream as H264.

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Will with V+ Boxes you get break up of sound for about 2sec every so often.

Up until last weekend we saw it on HD Channels.

As of last Sunday we started to see it on both ITV3 and Challenge

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On holiday as you know - stupid reply, just illustrating how little can fill up the V6 disk.

I have interest in other sports such as Rugby Union (also on BT Sports UHD) as well as football. Rugby union and rugby league in lowly HD.

Yes I will have some catching up to do, but that's life.

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WOW You’re making it worse.
So, not 20 3 hour sports matches over 8 days, let’s say 24, given extra sport and some in HD.
You’ll watch it all when you come back?
I think you’re now desperately trying to justify your assertion that 1TB is not enough and failing!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

You will never catch up! Assuming you will be watching live sport events as you won't have space to record as your V6 is full.;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Unless he just fast forwards to the bits he wants to see, and then deletes. I don't know how he also has time to post on cable forum, though!

I suppose remote in one hand and keying in with the left....:D

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Nice to see my updates making it onto other forums that, ironically, those posting them made the effort to get me removed.

Is the V+ sound drop out on the MPEG 4 SD channels more or less frequent than on the HD ones? Really I’m asking if it’s a new problem are just an extension of the old one.

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Yes I will, probably over the coming week.

Not failing at all in my opinion which I have - you obviously do not share that view and are denigrating my replies to suit your own opinions.

By the way others have also posted that the disk size is inadequate.

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No watch in normal speed.

Plenty of time to post as I was on holiday last week - try to keep up.

I can multitask so not as difficult as you seem to think.

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You must be cross-eyed by now.:shocked:

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Raider999 can you let us know if the V6 recalculates percentages as you add recordings.

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As previously stated, I was away for the week so cannot do that.

I did note that, despite everything recording, I ended up with more free space than expected.

I believe this is probably rounding when calculating how much space was released upon deleting a HD recording, it usually gives me an extra 2% free space - this of course may have been 1.6%?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

If you really to know how much space UHD recording takes, make a very long manual recording (maybe 20 hours). Then delete it and see how much the gauge goes up by.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

In progress ;)

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A 12 hour manual recording on BT Sport 4K uses 16% on my V6 (reporting as 139.86 GB).

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So that indicates each hour long UHD programme taking up 1.3% of recording space.

Wow, you won't get many UHD recordings on a 1TB box for that. This is why I thought all UHD material would be on demand or we'd have access to cloud 'recording'.

A bit of a disappointment really, but not unexpected.

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Perhaps Virgin should be planning for a 5TB box..

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Well what we don’t know is what plans are longer term - in practice a variable bitrate will be deployed at some point averaging a lower bitrate and that could give efficiencies of 20-30% reducing the recording space. Streaming services use a lower bitrate than VM.

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75 hours. How much timeshifting do you want to do???

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

I'm not sure I had 25 E180 tapes back in the day. That said there was the glorious 'long play' to extend it.

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It appears to recalculate the free space every time a recording starts, adding it's expected amount to the total used.

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It's not a lot, Spider. 75 hours equates to just over four series of 16 programmes each.

If they expected us to record so little, why did they increase the number of tuners on the V6?

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I do hope that things will improve longer term, but we are talking about the here and now. What are we supposed to do in the meantime? Such limited ability to record is counter to the way the Tivo and V6 have been promoted.

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I had about 50, mostly 4-hour tapes, and it was never enough.

I've got it about right now with two V6s and a video recorder which can record up to 500 hours in HD. With the additional 240 hours of HD recordings on the V6s, that just about satisfies my requirements.

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Wow, OB, that is some serious recording going on.

Is that all new programmes that you record? Any of these available on-demand you can access to help take pressure of your V6s?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

We don't watch live TV at all. Our viewing is a combination of recordings and on demand. Unfortunately, rather too much on demand stuff is time restricted, so I have to record a bit more than I would like, otherwise I lose the opportunity to watch it.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Same here, the only thing I watch live on TV is the football/boxing.

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Not really - went away for a week, needed to record around 15 football matches, 12 rugby union games, 3 rugby league games to start with.

As was previously said if we aren't meant to record much why give us 6 tuners per box for recording?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Digital Spy Forum is reporting that Cartoon Network, Cartoonio, Nickelodeon, Nick Junior, Nick Junior Too, Nicktoons, Boomerang and Zoo Moo HD has all been made available at no extra cost until October 31st to customers who don't normally receive them.

Sources: Digital Spy Forum and RichardCoulter.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Wonder if virgin will pull the same trick they did with premier sports and offer a free upgrade which then turns to pay at the end of October despite no mention of this or time limitation on their website?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/fre...-media-3070761

It seems they’ve sent out emails to customers informing them it’s for the month.

I would hardly describe a promotion as a trick.

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I pay £79. 63 a month have full house, 200 mb and sky movies I rang customer service to get the Vip for 79.00 they says nope its only available for new customers just read there's a flash sale on as I'm out of contract on 4th Oct let's see if I can get this new contract and new deal

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...inst-Sky-deals

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Sky Cinema will rebrand Sky Cinema Sci-Fi and Horror as Sky Cinema Halloween from October 13th.

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BBC Scotland reveal more BBC Scotland information.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45812552

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Looks like it will be rubbish,

Won't affect me as I won't be watching

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BBC Scotland is utter dross!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Sky sports and sky cinema UHD Is coming to virgin media




Oh sorry I was having a dream

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Well at least you have Virgins new UHD channel so one must be grateful for small mercies.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Well, it is highly likely, but not until some time in 2019.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Somebody rattled her cage

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There are multiple threads about retentions. It’s not unreasonable to expect people to use them.

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However what a sad life to waste ones time over such a small thing!:erm:

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Agree but does really matter . Unless she is paid every time she smack's some miscreants hand:rolleyes:

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might have a better chance now sky getting new owners

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The existing deal ends in 2019, so I'm optimistic we will get these channels then.

Mr Donald wants them earlier, but he's going to be disappointed, I think.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

For once we are singing from the same hymn sheet.

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The MPEG2 variants of ITV HD have been replaced by MPEG4 versions.

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Funnily enough half an hour after this post it appeared elsewhere as “unconfirmed reports” when it’s an easily verifiable fact. :rolleyes:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Really? How?

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Tune to ITV HD and then see which video format the tuner is using in diagnostics maybe? :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

But that only tells you the format in your region, not what is used elsewhere. jfman claimed "The MPEG2 variants of ITV HD have been replaced by MPEG4 versions." Note the plurals!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

The region on Digitalbitrate has ITV HD and ITV Wales HD. Both are broadcasting in MPEG4. Two separate regional versions justifies my use of the plural. It’s alsp an easily verifiable fact by going to that website.

While I can’t say “this applies in all regions as of this moment” the fact the change has taken place in some regions (at least) isn’t speculative.

I think it’s reasonable to assume someone on the forum who doesn’t work for VM is talking about in a specific area.

If someone says that for instance ITV3 SD is broadcasting in MPEG4 nobody asks them to corroborate that it applies to all areas of the country.

If it doesn’t apply to all areas then the chances are it will shortly as that’s the direction of travel.

I could ask members to test as BenMcr suggests but it’s not an effective use of anyone’s time. I presume you can confirm this is work in progress?

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The way people view their TV is changing thanks to the Internet - previously Sky's business model was to get a lock-out on Satellite TV broadcasting for the UK. The idea was that broadcasters who wanted to use satellite had to use their system and pay them for an EPG slot. Sky therefore wanted to promote use of their satellite service through their exclusive Sports channels. That's why they weren't really interested in pushing them on other services such as Virgin Cable, or when they were forced to offer them didn't give an attractive price. They wanted would-be Sky Sports viewers to buy into proprietary Sky satellite gear.

Now that people are turning to streaming for their TV media, there's no longer the same push to tie the Sky channels to their proprietary satellite service (which I believe they are strategically migrating away from in favour of broadband internet streaming) so they'll want to make their pay channels as accessible as possible, to make their money back for what they paid for the content rights. I think they'll be much more willing to make a good deal with Virgin.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

GINX Esports TV to leave Virgin Media on 22 October 2018:

https://ginx.tv/ginx/ginx-terminates...-virgin-media/

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Personally l think there is more to Virgin Media not launching a HD version of this channel as one suspects it is a carriage fee disagreement that has resulted in the loss of this channel..

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Well I thought it was, but your post made me wonder if the work had been completed already, especially as you said it was "easily verifiable". I couldn't think of an easy way so wondered if I'd missed a trick.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

... especially, given that it’s only SD on Sky. re GINX removal.

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https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...er-missing-hd/

On the plus side, the channel being removed from Virgin should not adversely impact ratings since most of their programmes get offically *no viewers* according to BARB.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Although I'm a casual gamer, this channel didn't really appeal to me. The odd programme was ok, but I certainly won't miss it. It's a shame for those that will though.

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Good riddance to bad rubbish, lets hope more follow soon.

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Like what MM?.

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It’s easy to verify that the change isn’t an “unconfirmed report” for ITV HD and ITV Wales HD by checking a commonly used website that puts information into the public domain.

If some areas haven’t changed then this information is additionally helpful.

STV HD hasn’t changed, arguably not an ITV HD variant because of ownership but arguably so because it’s a Channel 3 licence holder. I don’t think the pedantry is helpful to the discussion. No doubt this will be copied and pasted as unconfirmed.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Which field in Diagnostics tells you MPEG4 is being used?
Is it the Video PID field and should it say H.264 for MPEG4?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

Yes.

I might just reregister elsewhere than have my information copied, pasted and no credit given. After all it took them 8 years to notice the first time.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

..then STV HD is MPEG4.

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Have a look through the channel list and I'm pretty sure there's loads of utter dross on there that isn't watched by yourself and probably thousands more as well, too many to list on here imo, Den.

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Can't disagree with you there, Max. All my recordings seem to be from the same small number of channels. It makes you realise how much better value for money the streaming services are. Fraction of the price and much more choice. And no ads!

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Is it actually your information or just something you are re-posting from digitalbitrate.com? As you stated further up the thread, the information is available to all "by checking a commonly used website that puts information into the public domain".

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That adds some clarity to GINX's claims. I can't say I'm going to miss this channel.