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I don't have the time to respond to all your comments which mostly can be summarised as "will happen in the future". I think that's been a large disappointment to many Republicans but if he does get tax reformed he will be in a far more credible position.
But with regard to the Russian one, all I've said is the investigation is still ongoing. I don't think even the most ardent Trump supporter can pretend otherwise. And unless you have a mole in the Committee, I don't think we know what they have or haven't seen.

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Cannot believe how reckless he is with his tweets
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...23063945453574

Just out report: "United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror." Not good, we must keep America safe!

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BTW Part of the reason the crimes rates have all risen this year is a change in reporting methods. The news is irresponsible for it's coverage on this. Does it really sound reasonable that violent crime went up 19%? Most news companies do bury this information below the clickbait headline but still.

As for Trump tweeting it what do you expect?

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Why is she pathetic? She was in the car with the widow of the soldier and the call was on speaker phone presumably because the widow want others to witness the call.

http://time.com/4988027/la-david-joh...d-trump-widow/

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Republicans Lindsay Graham and Trey Gowdy has spoke about it many times !

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Because she is. I’ll take the word of a Veteran Soldier, General Kelly over MSM with axes to grind.

I have had about 4 military friends said they would be honoured at any leader who told them they died for what they signed up for, they would also wNt to hear full context of the conversation before they passed judgement on the pathetic congresswoman to see how much she was being political.

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wot? :erm::D

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"She is pathetic because she is?" Huh?

Are the widow and the dead soldier's mother also pathetic? Do you think they are lying and have an axe to grind?

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Pathetic and desperate are those trying to defend this President's behaviour. Quite why they feel the need to do this, in a country they don't live in, I don't know. I would be interested to find out.

Obama was right when he said if you win an election by dividing people, you're going to have an impossible task trying to unite them afterwards, which should be the first job of any President. Trump just seem to want to divide further and create more hate. Quite what his game plan is I don't know, it can't be re-election for sure .....

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Pathetic and desperate are those trying to undermine this President's behavior. Quite why they feel the need to do this, in a country they don't live in, I don't know. I would be interested to find out.

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He undermines himself in every tweet Smurf, no help required from anyone else !

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so why does it bother you ? you don't live there he's not your president

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You could apply that sentiment to everybody in this thread then.;)

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Because his actions affect the world economy, I have friends and family in the USA his actions affect, and if he starts a war with North Korea (as he has implied he might do) which would escalate beyond the region, this would affect all of us.

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I think he's more likely to declare was on the NFL than North Korea...

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Probably both...

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James Mattis has implied war too.

At the end of the day, blame it on past Presidents who left this situation and did sod all to be where it is now.

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They didn't do much because their options are limited. What is Trump doing apart from escalating things?

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That does seem to be his Modus Operandi...

Anyway, apparently it's now inappropriate to question what politicians say.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-kelly-general
Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp - he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post.

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and why does that bother you

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No that's my Modus Operandi because I am damn sick of the pathetic hypocrisy from MSM and from some folk in this thread, who seems to have selective memories when it suits.

As for the rest of your post. Your point is, if there is actually one ? :confused:

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The point is that Sanders said it was inappropriate to disagree with Kelly because he is a 4 star general - he isn’t, he is a civilian politician, therefore her proposition is invalid.

Anyway, why should the military be above questioning?

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It doesn't bother Hugh. Why do you think it does?

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Exactly.

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Why should Trump's state media start displaying an interest in facts? It's not done so to date.

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Only in a totalitarian state would no one question the military. I look forward to reading the response to your point.

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Sorry Hugh

Source

He can still be referred to as a 4 star General.

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You will have a long wait.

You have room to talk regarding facts, like the so many baseless ones you posted earlier, the ones I corrected you on. :rolleyes:

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You said he was a 4 star general, he was but isn't any longer. All semantics maybe; you should all kiss and make up ;)

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Aren’t there rules about current military personnel serving in the civilian government? He gets to return his title but Hugh’s right that he’s a civilian and politician.

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He still is, read Pips post!

Tweet just in from Trump, he said he is going to release the long blocked classified files on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

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About time, it may put several conspiracy theories to rest.

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or start some new ones ;)

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Just wondering who'll be the first to blame Trump for JFK's death. ;)

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the way this threads gone it will definitely get there

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Trump is America's Thatcher... :D

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and there's those who can't forgive him for knowing Nigel .

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Well to be fair Farage ranks on the level of Pol Pot for his crimes against the EU and plans for his future out of politics are being made by powerful people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXNhL4J_S00

:D

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Love-ins of extremists aside it was said a while ago there is a Trump tweet for every occasion. On the subject of not questioning generals:

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/201...ilson-live.cnn

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I was wondering how long it would take before you and Smurf started some pithy, pointless exchange on this topic following on from your trolling on the Catalonia issue. You didn't disappoint. ;)

No-one has any need to blame Trump for anything he hasn't done.

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He isn't releasing anything. They were locked for a maximum of 25 years 25 years less 5 days ago - the time limit expires on the 26th.

He is trying to take credit for something signed into law by George H W Bush.

Still I suppose when your achievements are as sparse as his are you take anything.

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Glad that had the :D after it - huge insult to Thatcher if meant seriously.

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Right, because clearly the White House Chief of Staff has zero reasons to be biased.

He made some really good points. He also made some shockingly bad ones, and has soiled his reputation with this sordid affair by participating in a disingenuous arse-covering exercise.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/after-...-casualty-list

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My opinion of Donald Trump in a single, very NSFW, video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00T8sYqG8k

I never thought I'd long for the politics of my formative years but this man getting into power, and being supported on forums like this one, does indeed make me long for the times of Thatcher and Kinnock.

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I should mention I loathe Mike Pence's policies, politics and viewpoint on pretty much everything however he does seem mentally stable and has at least a passing familiarity with reality.

Pence 2017!

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Poor sods! Well this means an imminent war to distract from domestic failings then .. :)

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He wishes! She understood Europe, understood free trade and understood climate change. Trump is still at the back of the class on these issues.
Please don't speak ill of the dead.

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Maggie had a statue built for her but l doubt Donald will have one built for him as he is too busy trying to build that wall.;)

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He can be referred to as a 4 star General, but he isn't a serving one in the Marine Corps - he is a civilian.

Just like ex-Presidents are referred to as Mr. President, but no one confuses them with the serving President; he may have the honorary title, but he doesn't have the authority or powers of a serving officer...

But back to my point - why is it "something highly inappropriate" to question the statements of a military (or ex-military) person, as posited by Sarah Huckabee Sanders, President Trump's White House Press Secretary?

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If I may, I would suggest this is nothing specific to an ex-military person. This administration is authoritarian, its hubris unprecedented. It shows utter disdain for any questioning of its actions or motives as Stephen Miller made abundantly clear a while ago. Its response to highlighting of its errors is to either try and discredit those remarking on them or to lie.

Presumably this feeds down from the narcissist in chief and his inability to accept his own manifest fallibility, let alone learn from it.

Being fair we all have flaws, just the rest of us don't have them subjected to such scrutiny.

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No, I am not just taking anything, actually. I just refuse to join the Trump hysteria & bashing bandwagon.

His achievements are not sparse on the basis of that he only served 9 months, I mean crikey, you would have a point if you was talking at the end of his term(s).

As for the underlined bit in your post. Yes he is, permission to release has to be granted by the serving President. He could deny their release. Seems though the CIA is not happy and is trying to block some of the information being released.

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He's achieved over 70 golfing sessions so far which is pretty good going. How he finds time in between all his campaign rallies to golf so often, remembering how he slammed Obama for spending a fraction of the time doing so, is beyond me.

I'm not on any Trump bashing bandwagon. There is no need. His own Twitter account is quite enough material ignoring everything else.

Regarding his achievements, a comparison to 44 is fair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...k_Obama_(2009)

So, given he's achieving so much when is Trump going to stop stalling and start implementing the sanctions against Russia Congress forced him to sign against his will?

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Yep, it's a bit like expecting Brexit to have been sorted out at this stage in the process given the refusal of the other parties to negotiate about key issues until they were ready. Trump's faced huge problems and whilst some have been of his own making but many have not, they've been the result of large sections of the media and a good many politicians who don't like him for various reason stirring things up for their own ends. At the end of his term his record will reveal how good or bad a President he's been and the US electorate will be the only judges who matter.

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Who should we believe?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41724827

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Who cares ?

Last week, the bombshell was suppose to be, Trump was suppose to have said "He knew what he signed up for but it still hurts."

This week it's the same wife with another supposedly jaw dropping bombshell about Trump. That she says, he forgot her husbands name, why the hell didn't this come out last week ?

While it is tragic that she lost her husband, I find her complaints, just a tad politically motivated and to me, when someone is grieving, they couldn't give a toss about things going on around them and with the media itself, to them it just feeds their total BS hysteria and sensationalism and the sequential nature of it, just reeks of the media spin.

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You sure ?

Because you're sounding like his opponents (The Anti-Trump brigade such as the media and Democrats and most of the left) everyday, complaining about his tweeting and the golfing, which, I have looked into and there is only 31 actual confirmed playing sessions of the 71 visits to golf courses, how many weekend days has passed since 20th Jan, 2017, I count 80 Saturday's and Sunday's, are you denying a 71 year old, time off at weekends now?

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Maybe in hindsight he shouldn’t have had a go so often at Obama’s golfing trips considering Obama didn’t go as often as Trump has. Hasn’t Trump had more golf trips than Obama’s entire first term?

As for the soldier it's both the congresswoman and the widow who've said he didn't remember the name. Given Trump's history I am less inclined to believe him although he claimed he has 'proof' he did so if does then we'll see.

However this is a guy who mocked John McCain for getting captured in the Vietnam war, a war he dodged the draft for, so I am not holding my breath.

Incidentally I saw Obama still writes letters to the families of fallen servicemen just 'from the Office of Barack and Michelle Obama'.

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He's been on a steep learning curve compared to contemporary politicians like the Clintons. But he's failed to get significant legislation over the line and it's absolutely correct to highlight this.

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And are they any more/less sincere than Trump's possibly clumsy remarks or have we already made up our minds about what he is and what Obama isn't?

Tony Blair and Bill Clinton never put a foot wrong when it came to oration. Were they always sincere?

Trump might be a loud mouthed oaf but if he is that's easier to deal with than a consumate liar.

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Compared to the Crooked Clinton’s, that’s a laugh.

The Uranium deal involving them, Obama Administration and Russia is now being investigated by House Intel Committee.

Btw, he has not given up on repealing Obamacare. I mean GOP has been trying for 7 years.

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Sadly he's both.

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It's to his credit he's not given up on things but he never seems to have acquired the necessary political skills to get legislation over the line.

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I think Obama is probably sincere in expressing sympathy in the deceased. It's certainly not a given that former Presidents are expected to continue to send letters.

And it wasn't Obama who had a go at Trump here. Trump, as usual, is the open who started throwing accusations about former Presidents around.


He's a consummate liar too.

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ABC interview with Myeshia Johnson, widow of Sergeant LA David Johnson. Talks about the Trump call from 3:30.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/fallen-sold...ry?id=50655063

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Rubbish. He's an inept liar. Trump is what he is but he's clearly not a consumate liar. He's clumsy and impetuous when compared to Blair and Clinton, hence all the hassle he's faced. Blair and Clinton got away with it for years and still are.

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Do you just mean he's rubbish at lying?

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There's enough people who believe his every word so I would actually rate his skills in this area.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...odesta-n812776

This is a Democratic lobbying firm. Looks like they got caught up with the same area of investigation Trump's campaign manager was.

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Not only a Democratic lobbying firm, but the brother of John Podesta, Hillary Clintons 2016 U.S Election campaign manager....

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Aren't most politicians ? ;)

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Huh. Perhaps it's a decoy to throw people off from the bias and conflict of interest in the investigation you complained about earlier?

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In a way yes but he's also clumsy and far from diplomatic in his use of language which does cause others concern or offence and does cause him a lot of problems. I made that point here around the time when Trump was first elected. He's not a 'slick operator' in the mould of say Blair, Cameron, Clinton, Obama and I reckon they've all told more than their fair share of porkies both in and out of office the vast majority of which we'll never know about. Trump is far more WYSIWYG.

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Perhaps, but it’s not my complaint, I’m only echoing sentiments from Trumps legal team. Of course, they’d say that but if Mueller has involved Clinton funded people on his Grand Jury panel, then I don’t possibly see any result of a prosecution, down the line as a reasonable and fair process.

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To be clear as of yet this isn't the Podesta linked to Clinton. He isn't part of the investigation, at this time anyway.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41743473

It's the amount of enemies he's making in is own party that's going to be the Donald's downfall.

His bullying, childish and pathetic tweeting attacks on anyone, even on his 'own side', reveal what a lowlife he is.

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Goes to show how little you know. These Republican Senators are already Anti-Trumpers. Majority of Republican voters are happy to see them go, that’s the vibe I’m reading from Republican groups.

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Correction, it's the vibe you're reading from the narrow set of pro-Trump sources you choose to follow.

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That’s not a correction, but thanks for trying and I wouldn’t call a group with 8,000,000+ in it “narrow”. I don’t do narrow, that’s your forte. ;)

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Why are your views more or less narrow than Mr K's? You both have different views on Trump and other matters and that makes the world a more interesting place. But it doesn't make either of your views narrow.

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Clue: I didn’t start with the ‘narrowness’ here. :angel:

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Apparently, ‘crooked Hillary’ did it...

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First charges filed in Mueller investigation: http://myfox8.com/2017/10/27/first-c...investigation/

Charges are sealed for now as are the names of those charged

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The thoughts are that it’s to try and make Manafort ‘flip’.

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Happy to oblige, I'm sure people will be named in due course.

and http://news.sky.com/story/jury-appro...ction-11101685

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Thanks for quoting my post, that I still stand by, so not sure what you are actually obliging.

The only Russian Collusion I see is the Uranium One scandal that the Clintons and Obama Administration was reportedly said to be involved in and then to top it off, the dirty tricks continued leading up to the US Election, with the fake dossier that the Clintons and DNC paid for to try and undermine Trump.

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It’s a tactical strategy they use, but I’ve read some ‘bent’ things Mueller is said to have used in the past, reports of inventing crimes on suspects to get them to talk.

By the way, I have been led to believe, his team have not revealed any of this charges information, and have not confirmed the story, so who ever has leaked it, has committed a federal crime.

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Trump and his supporters will try to discredit Mueller as much as they can but it was his own Attorney General who appointed him, with the support of congress, after Trump fired the FBI director. I am sure there will be 'reports' about anyone whose investigating Trump even if they got rid of Mueller.

The charges are sealed as part of the process. I am not a legal expert as to why they do this, I think it's because the investigation is constantly monitored by a grand jury who give permission for actions to be taken. So they see the evidence and charges etc to provide oversight.

I have no idea of if it's illegal or not to leak that sealed charges have been issued, I would thought that's the purpose of them being sealed.

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It was the Deputy Attorney General who appointed him, Jeff Sessions has recused himself, so is unable to be involved to do any appointing in the case. It’s not just Trump supporters questions Muellers involvement, he is conflicted in so many ways according to a few legal commentators. Not to mention as already stated, the grand jury has got folk who have donated to the Clintons.

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I’m sure whoever is appointed will also have legal commentators saying they’re but suitable. It’s weird how everyone whose investigating Trump’s campaign is biased. FBI Director, his replacement, the special prosecutor and even the grand jury. Trump is either really unlucky or lucky that from the press to lawyers and prosecutors they’re all compromised in some way.

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I also don’t know if the members of the grand jury donated to Clinton because they’re kept secret.

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The Uranium story has been proven to be Fake News, and the dossier was first compiled for a Republican donor, who stopped paying when Trump got the nomination.

https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clint...m-russia-deal/

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If it's not about collusion between Trump's Team and the Russians what is it? Let's wait and see.
I also note that you have been fact-checked out by Hugh on the remainder of your reply so I won't duplicate effort here.

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No it hasn’t been proven at all. If it’s been proven then why are Republican Senators asking for a special prosecutor to investigate it ?

I think you need to get clued up a bit better on the Fake Dossier story too, it was the Washington Post who broke the story about the Clintons and the Democrats paying for the story, yes a Republican contributed, but the DNC and Clintons paid millions of dollars.

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Rubbish, no I haven’t. The Snopes article is referring to what was brought to light in 2016, a lot more info has come about. Republicans are calling for a special prosecutor, they would not be doing this, if the story did not hold any substance.

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https://truthfeednews.com/breaking-g...investigation/

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I mean they would be calling for it. The question is if there is anything there for it to happen. That Snopes link seems pretty clear, especially pointing out that the donation timelines don’t match.

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You mean the same Republicans that held 7 inquiries into Benghazi at a cost of 10s of millions of dollars and only found minor issues? They couldn’t possibly be following their previous pattern of behaviour, could they?

They couldn’t possibly be trying to distract/obfuscate what’s happening with the Mueller investigations, could they?

I wonder if Trey Gowdy will call for an inquiry into the 4 deaths in Niger?

Anyway, updated version of the Uranium One allegations from a different fact checking dire from 2 days ago...

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

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Why don't you ask Trey ?

The Mueller investigation will carry on in the background as it always has. No need for them to distract/obfuscate and it isn't actually them doing this, you do realise it was the Washtington Post who broke the story on the DNC/Clinton paying millions for the fake Trump dossier?

By the way, I wouldn't call 4 American deaths in Benghazi, minor, that could have been avoided, had Hillary, done her job properly as Secretary of State. The victims own mothers, believe many times over, she told lies, said it was one thing and then another. Pffft, but yeah their deaths are minor, yeah sure. :rolleyes:

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Amazing the amount of times Hilary and Obama get mentioned in this thread, and by the great Trumpster himself (usually soon after his latest cock up/failure to deliver.....)

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What latest failures?

What latest cock ups?

Name them.

He is 10 months in office..... Wall is being built...prototypes are already in place, his Republican budget just passed, the tax reforms are next, he is tackling the opioid crisis, that Obama did very little about. Jobs and growth are up. I’m struggling to see the failures. Ah, yes you chase the negative Trump hysteria headlines, like a lost sheep.

Obama was a President, this thread is about the current President, the comparison of each is bound to crop up in such a topic, told you this last time, you’re stuck in repeat mode again. :rolleyes:

Two ll in Hillary by the way. :dunce:

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That's really unfair. You know he was talking about errors in the administration and not calling the deaths minor. :erm: He was saying that the republicans had several inquiries into Benghazi and didn't find any evidence of negligence on the part of the State Department.

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Just because they found no evidence, does not mean there was no negligence on her part, she told a pack of lies under oath according to one if the Benghazi victims mothers.

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Seems there's a different standard of proof/evidence required for some depending on whether it's Trump (always innocent, all evidence is 'fake'), or Clinton (always guilty, no matter what the 'fake' facts say...) :rolleyes:

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What part of the Benghazi mother saying Hillary, told a pack of lies under oath, do you not get? Huh ?

That is not a fake fact. :rolleyes:

I also notice your own failure to list Trumps recent failures that you said he has made, that these so called ‘distractions’ on the Uranium One scandal, that has not been disproven and Republicans calling for special prosecutor and the Fake Russian Dossier that the Clintons and DNC paid millions to?

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It seems like Clinton is guilty until proven innocent and Trump innocent until proven guilty. For example, we've seen how a war widow couldn't possibly be correct when discussing the muti-witnessed phone call from Donald Trump yet when the Benghazi mother said Hillary Clinton lied she was obviously correct.

And when it comes to challenging Trump's lack of legislative achievements all I hear is something that most VM customers are well used to hearing. Coming soon!

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I never doubted what he said in the phone call, I actually said that what he said, was nothing wrong and he was advised to say what he said by General Kelly, and other military friends of mine say also there was nothing wrong, it was honourable thing to say.

The pathetic Democratic Congresswoman who witnessed the call was being political. Though it turns out her voting on bills history for Veterans shows she voted against most veteran bills that benefits ex military personnel.

Big difference here than you saying what is fact and what isn’t. But as usual, in your rush to defend your liberal buddy, you’ve got yourself in muddle. :rolleyes:

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Lack of what sorry ?

If you’re going to distort the truth because you have an agenda, please stop doing a piss poor job at it. :rolleyes:

List of his legislative changes...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...value=0&page=1

I repeat for the benefit of your ignorance, but Trump’s major budget reforms also passed in the house this week, paving the way for his tax plans to help middle class.

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You failed to condemn Trump for lying about not saying what he said to the war widow and his follow-up lie about having evidence to back up his claim. Why not be a bit more balanced and do so?

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No, because you're wrong, again.

He did not lie FFS. What he said was taken out of context to portray him in a bad light, so he is denying he said it, like it is being put out by the liberal media. Then General Kelly, comes out to back up that he advised Trump what to say, to Gold star families on those phonecalls. It's not hard to join the bloody dots, unless one has an agenda like you. :rolleyes:

I cannot condemn Trump on 'that' specific phonecall because, you, nor I, have not heard the entire conversation of 'that' phonecall, I cannot judge some line that some POS Democrat, has taken out of it and what was said out of context, then she has gone running to her leftie buddies in the media to try and politicise a story on a dead soldier. :rolleyes:

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Meanwhile, as we know, US intelligence agencies have already concluded that the Russian government sought to help Mr Trump win the election. Their current investigation is now looking into whether there were links between Russia and the Trump campaign.
The investigation is apparently getting close to a decision and Trump is not a happy chappy! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Good article here about it all. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41796255

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They're now in trouble.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.36c4a1a0374a

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

So you disbelieve the widow and family of the fallen too? Given Trump's long history of making inappropriate comments it really much of a reach to imagine him saying that stuff?

The burden of proof you require seems very different depending on whether or not you like what may be said.

The Uranium One stuff is nonsense.

https://twitter.com/MyDaughtersArmy/...02075170193408

People who scream about fake news the loudest seem to be those who have the most obvious agendas. You seem to refuse to condemn Trump full stop, regardless of the evidence, but take every opportunity to condemn his opponents, whether real or imagined.

Regarding the budget by the way: it's largely meaningless. It was passed in a hurry to allow use of procedures to force tax cuts through without a super-majority and is not binding.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

You mean the stuff he was ‘advised’ to say, even by a military person such as General Kelly?

As I said, cannot really pass a full judgement, the full conversation is not known. But I found nothing wrong with what was took out of context.

I beg to differ, seems some Republican Senators do too and the fact that the Department of Justice lifted a gag order on an FBI informant surrounding the deal, so they can testify in the House.

I had an agenda, it was hoping the DNC and Hillary lost, she did.

I’m well aware of the GOPs intent and I wouldn’t call a 4 Trillion dollar budget that just passed, meaningless.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

So what if the donald wrote this letter himself about himself, all it proves is that 20 years ago he was a narcissistic, self obsessed potential psychopath, pretty much the same as he is now really

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b03cd20b80c787

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No fight will go unpicked by the donald, be they war widow or war hero

Yes, just because the general found solace in those words it doesn't mean everyone will, especially someone of a non military bent, it's one of those times imo when it's best not to say anything, just let the person know you'll do anything you can for them and are thinking of them, just a thought, might be the wrong thought but I doubt the call would've ended up being worse than the one he actually made.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

Come on Thedaddy, surely you can see this is just pure click bait. Page is just riddled with ads.

I don't deny, he has a high self-promoting, self loving personality, not sure why this is a personality disorder, this is a trait I could also apply to most of the planet.

Most people big themselves up in life. To get a job, to get a partner. It's called living, but not many get to be the President of the United States. Sure, he spent big trying to get there, but Hillary spent much more trying to as well, pretty sure she is a high, self promoter too.

Agree, people react differently to different things when they go through grief, General Kelly did actually advise him not to make the call at all, but then Trump thought if he doesn't he will be taken to task by the already Anti-Trump media, he made the call and he still is.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

No surprises here but it's Paul Manafort whose been charged: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/u...cted.html?_r=0

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

Nope no surprises here at all.

Just released by the Reuters news agency, a Dozen charges are being levied, one of them laundering money and another, conspiracy against the U.S, lots of other issues related to other financial crimes.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

No surprises for the Donald either given the amount of tweets he's been putting out. Anything to distract from his ever nearing appointment with Justice. Manafort might have some interesting info....