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Media Boy UK 02-07-2014 18:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35711502)
DNP and DND are like been back at primary school " I know something you don't know " lol
The launch date I have for Sky Sports HD is still subject to change and I have still to get it 100% confirmed.

So it will stay under DNP until I can get the info 100% confirm.

The date I have is within July 14th to July 19th.

devilincarnate 02-07-2014 18:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35711578)
Oh, they will. This sort of thing is taken very seriously in VM.

ps. Please don't submit the survey if it wasn't sent to you - the link will be unique to devilincarnate and you'll be messing up his results.
Was not sure about the link SP wonder if one of the mods could remove it for me?

theone2k10 02-07-2014 18:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Not sure what to make of it but a lovely lady from virgin media just phoned me for a service review, don't know if that's because my initial 18 month contract has ended or something else, she sounded gorgeous though.

---------- Post added at 19:37 ---------- Previous post was at 19:34 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35711578)
Oh, they will. This sort of thing is taken very seriously in VM.

ps. Please don't submit the survey if it wasn't sent to you - the link will be unique to devilincarnate and you'll be messing up his results.
I've just signed him up to endless marketing :p:

OLD BOY 02-07-2014 19:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711581)
The launch date I have for Sky Sports HD is still subject to change and I have still to get it 100% confirmed.

So it will stay under DNP until I can get the info 100% confirm.

The date I have is within July 14th to July 19th.
So as you have already ruled out 17th, it must be the 15th, as that is the Tuesday.

Unless of course Sky are calling the shots on this one and it's Monday!

gizuk 02-07-2014 20:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711581)
The launch date I have for Sky Sports HD is still subject to change and I have still to get it 100% confirmed.

So it will stay under DNP until I can get the info 100% confirm.

The date I have is within July 14th to July 19th.
So there isn't a DNP. It's self imposed?

Media Boy UK 02-07-2014 21:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gizuk (Post 35711626)
So there isn't a DNP. It's self imposed?
The DNP was up on Monday night but now need 100% confirmed news before posting info I got.

johnathome 02-07-2014 21:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35711578)
Oh, they will. This sort of thing is taken very seriously in VM.

ps. Please don't submit the survey if it wasn't sent to you - the link will be unique to devilincarnate and you'll be messing up his results.
Oh, i did it but got kicked off when i answered my main mobile provider wasn't Virgin.

harry_hitch 02-07-2014 21:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35711502)
DNP and DND are like been back at primary school " I know something you don't know " lol

Ps on another note about the survey that is going around did anyone mention that it asks about Netflix at no extra cost and also about game of thrones on Sky Atlantic?

Not sure if this link will work but here is the survey?
https://ecustomeropinions.com/survey...2=3&data3=11|5
It would appear to be same survey I received, yes.

1andrew1 02-07-2014 23:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35711536)
20 per cent of 47.... ;)
Assuming the 47 are VM TVs customer and that they will not share it outside this forum....

---------- Post added at 00:33 ---------- Previous post was at 00:17 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35711435)
This is not my do not disclose though.
Does it concern the rumours about Channel 4+1 HD and 4 Seven HD?

DaMac 03-07-2014 06:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Ch4 +1 HD and 4seven HD will be available on freeview, the only real barrier to launch on other platforms is if there is a period of exclusivity.

1andrew1 03-07-2014 07:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwarfofpoison (Post 35710927)
Unfortunately the packages are made and sold by the Premier League, do they want to break up their cash cow. Together with legal rules about what can be shown on UK TV (e.g. you can't televise any game between 3pm & 5pm on Saturday), the bottom line is that it's going to take an awful lot of money to challenge Skys' strangle hold. 879 million for Champions League was the first coo, how much will Premier league rights cost?
A suggestion in this article is that the Premier League may make more matches available. The article reminds us that 45% more matches are shown now than 10 years ago ago (106 v 154) but states there is scope yet for far more to be shown.

1andrew1 03-07-2014 09:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
The article also suggests that those who feel they now have to pay to two providers for all matches have not realised that by staying with just Sky Sports they would still have more matches today (116) than they would have had 10 years ago. The price per match would have been equivalent to £3.03 in 2004 and £2.81 in 2014.
I'm not a Sky supporter but find the calculations often show different outcomes to a lot of posters' perceptions.

Media Boy UK 03-07-2014 09:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35711671)
Ch4 +1 HD and 4seven HD will be available on freeview, the only real barrier to launch on other platforms is if there is a period of exclusivity.
I think Channel 4 +1 HD will be axe to give slot to E4 HD or Film4 when deal with Sky and Virgin are up.

But 4Seven HD may launch on both Virgin and Sky when deals are up.

(When signed E4 HD or Film4 HD may move to More TV Pack.)

theone2k10 03-07-2014 10:17
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Well Sky have raised prices as follows
£1 for entertainment pack
£1 for entertainment+ pack
£2.50 for Sky sports 1+2 pack
50p for sky movies pack

Those are the price rises.
This might give us a idea of virgins price rises when they come.

denphone 03-07-2014 10:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35711714)
Well Sky have raised prices as follows
£1 for entertainment pack
£1 for entertainment+ pack
£2.50 for Sky sports 1+2 pack
50p for sky movies pack

Those are the price rises.
This might give us a idea of virgins price rises when they come.
Yes its going to be at least a £4 or £5 rise for those who have the full packages.

RichardCoulter 03-07-2014 10:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35711380)
A DNP might also be required to protect the source.
Exactly.

1andrew1 03-07-2014 10:43
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35711714)
Well Sky have raised prices as follows
£1 for entertainment pack
£1 for entertainment+ pack
£2.50 for Sky sports 1+2 pack
50p for sky movies pack

Those are the price rises.
This might give us a idea of virgins price rises when they come.
The base pack remains at £21.50pm.

A great summary from this post here. Note the 11.4% rise in Sky Sports. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=210

Quote:
Originally posted by mlt11 in DigitalSpy

Original £21.50 (was £21.50) = NO CHANGE
Variety £28.00 (was £27.00) = UP 3.7%
Family £33.00 (was £32.00) = UP 3.1%

Sports Pack £24.50 (was £22.00) = UP 11.4%
Movies Pack £16.50 (was £16.00) = UP 3.1%

Complete Bundle (ie Family + Sports + Movies) £71.25 (was £67.25) = UP 5.9%

Sports Bundle (ie Original + Sports) £46.00 (was £43.50) = UP 5.7%
Movies Bundle (ie Original + Movies) £38.00 (was £37.50) = UP 1.3%

Family + Sports £57.50 (was £54.00) = UP 6.5%

RichardCoulter 03-07-2014 10:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35711671)
Ch4 +1 HD and 4seven HD will be available on freeview, the only real barrier to launch on other platforms is if there is a period of exclusivity.
I wouldn't have thought that there was, AFAIK these HD variants of existing services have only been created to fill new (temporary) capacity that nobody else seems to want.

1andrew1 03-07-2014 10:53
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35711724)
I wouldn't have thought that there was, AFAIK these HD variants of existing services have only been created to fill new (temporary) capacity that nobody else seems to want.
Freeview is an open platform, it doesn't have the budget to make channels exclusive. However, if Channel 4 got a great deal then it might be viable for Channel 4 to make these channels available on Freeview but not on other platforms where it would have to bid for capacity against pay-TV broadcasters.

muppetman11 03-07-2014 11:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35711716)
Yes its going to be at least a £4 or £5 rise for those who have the full packages.
The packages on VM already went up in February 14 my parents was £5.75 and they don't have any Sky Premiums so surely aside from the Sky Premiums the next increase should be Feb 15 ?

theone2k10 03-07-2014 11:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35711722)
The base pack remains at £21.50pm.

A great summary from this post here. Note the 11.4% rise in Sky Sports. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=210
That is a good summary indeed. The prices i posted were from the letter i got this morning.
Either way i'm still canceling in October once my contract is up as for me it's not worth the money as i'm not watching anything on it lol.

denphone 03-07-2014 11:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35711729)
The packages on VM already went up in February 14 my parents was £5.75 and they don't have any Sky Premiums so surely aside from the Sky Premiums the next increase should be Feb 15 ?
Indeed MM one would hope the next rise would not be till next year but l have a bad feeling about this and one must hope those portents don't come true.

DaMac 03-07-2014 11:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35711727)
Freeview is an open platform, it doesn't have the budget to make channels exclusive. However, if Channel 4 got a great deal then it might be viable for Channel 4 to make these channels available on Freeview but not on other platforms where it would have to bid for capacity against pay-TV broadcasters.
Which is sort of what I was hinting at, CH4 may have got the muxes dirt cheap for a while to make it worth their while.

Media Boy UK 03-07-2014 12:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35711733)
Indeed MM one would hope the next rise would not be till next year but l have a bad feeling about this and one must hope those portents don't come true.
Virgin do the following every year:

Sky Sports and Sky Movies goes up on October 1st - still to be confirmed for 2014.

The base packages (M, M+, L and XL) goes up in February to April every year.

1andrew1 03-07-2014 13:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35711741)
Which is sort of what I was hinting at, CH4 may have got the muxes dirt cheap for a while to make it worth their while.
It also strengthens Channel 4's negotiating hand with VM and Sky - they will be keener to get them now that they're on Freeview and YouView.

Media Boy UK 03-07-2014 17:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: New Sky Sports HD Channels set to launch on July 15th.

Media Boy HQ can now reveal that the following new channel launches and new channel numbers should happen on July 15th on Virgin Media:

Sky Basic (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-109. Sky 1 - was 121
-110. Sky 1 HD - was 122
-111. Sky Living - was 109
-112. Sky Living HD - was 110
-121. Sky 2 - was 123
-122. Sky Living It - was 112
-123. Pick - was 180
-140. Sky Living It+1 - was 160
-180. Challenge +1 - was 140
-TBC. Sky Living +1 - was 111

Sky Movies (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-404. Sky Movies Greats - was 410
-405. Sky Movies Disney - was 407
-407. Sky Movies Act+Adv - was 405
-408. Sky Movies Comedy - was 404
-409. Sky Movies Crime - was 411
-410. Sky Movies Drama - was 408
-411. Sky Movies Scifi - was 409
-434. Sky Movies Greats HD - was 440
-435. Sky Movies Disney HD - was 437
-437. Sky Movies Act+Adv HD - was 435
-438. Sky Movies Comedy HD - was 434
-439. Sky Movies Crime HD - was 441
-440. Sky Movies Drama HD - was 438
-441. Sky Movies Scifi HD - was 439

Sky Sports (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-501. Sky Sports News - was 515
-502. Sky Sports 1 - was 511
-503. Sky Sports 2 - was 512
-504. Sky Sports 3 - was 513
-505. Sky Sports 4 - was 514
-506. Sky Sports 5 (Coming August 12th)
-507. Sky Sports F1 - was 516
-511. Sky Sports News HD (Launch date TBC)
-512. Sky Sports 1 HD - was 517
-513. Sky Sports 2 HD - was 518
-514. Sky Sports 3 HD
-515. Sky Sports 4 HD
-516. Sky Sports 5 HD (Coming August 12th)
-517. Sky Sports F1 HD

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this post is still subject to change.

©copyright 2014 Media Boy 2006 - 2014. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

andy_m 03-07-2014 18:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
That is brilliant news, MB, really chuffed with that.

denphone 03-07-2014 18:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Indeed its excellent news.

Superblade7 03-07-2014 18:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Great news MB. Slightly surprised that SSN is the first channel on 501/511, would have thought this would be better at end and SS1 on 501/511.

Horizon 03-07-2014 18:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35711812)
Great news MB. Slightly surprised that SSN is the first channel on 501/511, would have thought this would be better at end and SS1 on 501/511.
Indeed. Very odd to a give a minority channel such a prominent slot.

VM needs to have a rethink on this. It puts all the other Sky Sports channels out of "synch". Sky Sports 1 on ch502 doesn't work and will result in confusion and MANY calls to VM call centres and I know that VM love such calls....

Dave42 03-07-2014 18:34
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
hope we don't have to wait to long for ssn HD

Media Boy UK 03-07-2014 18:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35711814)
hope we don't have to wait to long for ssn HD
Early 2015 base on info I have seen.

muppetman11 03-07-2014 18:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Good deal for Sky as well it gives all their channels good prominence , how many channels per page does the TIVO guide display , if it's 8 like the Sky EPG the changes to the entertainment section will see the Sky Entertainment channels at the top of page 2.

Superblade7 03-07-2014 18:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
This would be better -

Sky Sports (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-501. Sky Sports 1 - was 511
-502. Sky Sports 2 - was 512
-503. Sky Sports 3 - was 513
-504. Sky Sports 4 - was 514
-505. Sky Sports 5 (Coming August 12th)
-506. Sky Sports F1 - was 516
-507. Sky Sports News - was 515
-511. Sky Sports 1 HD - was 517
-512. Sky Sports 2 HD - was 518
-513. Sky Sports 3 HD
-514. Sky Sports 4 HD
-515. Sky Sports 5 HD (Coming August 12th)
-516. Sky Sports F1 HD
-517. Sky Sports News HD (Launch date TBC)

Although forget about the order, we've got them all in HD :woot:

Dave42 03-07-2014 18:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711816)
Early 2015 base on info I have seen.
dammmmmmmmmmmmm that's too long :(

MalteseFalcon 03-07-2014 18:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
EXCELLENT. Looking forward to this.

Horizon 03-07-2014 18:46
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35711819)
Although forget about the order, we've got them all in HD :woot:
Order is important as it makes it easier to find what you want, but I agree having them in the first place is the most important of all.

Dave42 03-07-2014 18:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35711823)
Order is important as it makes it easier to find what you want, but I agree having them in the first place is the most important of all.
exactly I never thought we get the missing sports HD channels so happy to be wrong on that

vincerooney 03-07-2014 18:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711816)
Early 2015 base on info I have seen.
Still yet to understand why it's taking so long to launch these channels if the contract has been signed?

Paradox295 03-07-2014 19:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711806)

Sky Basic (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-109. Sky 1 - was 121
-110. Sky 1 HD - was 122
-111. Sky Living - was 109
-112. Sky Living HD - was 110
-121. Sky 2 - was 123
-122. Sky Living It - was 112
-123. Pick - was 180
-140. Sky Living It+1 - was 160
-180. Challenge +1 - was 140
-TBC. Sky Living +1 - was 111
Good. Having Sky Living before Sky1 just made no sense.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711806)
Sky Sports (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-501. Sky Sports News - was 515
-502. Sky Sports 1 - was 511
-503. Sky Sports 2 - was 512
-504. Sky Sports 3 - was 513
-505. Sky Sports 4 - was 514
-506. Sky Sports 5 (Coming August 12th)
-507. Sky Sports F1 - was 516
-511. Sky Sports News HD (Launch date TBC)
-512. Sky Sports 1 HD - was 517
-513. Sky Sports 2 HD - was 518
-514. Sky Sports 3 HD
-515. Sky Sports 4 HD
-516. Sky Sports 5 HD (Coming August 12th)
-517. Sky Sports F1 HD
Is there anything on 500 or 510?

They should have put News and News HD on those numbers respectively. Makes more sense.

neilo 03-07-2014 19:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
I can't believe that Virgin will number the Sky Sports channels that way. SS1 on 502, SS2 on 503 etc?? It just doesn't seem right. I'll get well confused!

Media Boy UK 03-07-2014 19:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
I was confused to when I first saw the list.

denphone 03-07-2014 19:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35711828)
Still yet to understand why it's taking so long to launch these channels if the contract has been signed?
Its not as simple as ABC Vince.

Media Boy UK 03-07-2014 19:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradox295 (Post 35711829)
Good. Having Sky Living before Sky1 just made no sense.



Is there anything on 500 or 510?

They should have put News and News HD on those numbers respectively. Makes more sense.
As I posted at 7pm tonight:

Quote:
I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this post is still subject to change.

Henkesghost 03-07-2014 19:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Very good news :) Will SkySports and movies be available on the ipad app from then too MediaBoy?

Media Boy UK 03-07-2014 19:26
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35711836)
Very good news :) Will SkySports and movies be available on the ipad app from then too MediaBoy?
No idea - sorry.

Mad Max 03-07-2014 19:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711838)
No idea - sorry.

:D:D

blue666666 03-07-2014 21:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
All sounding good shame about HD news taking so long, but not the end of the world waited years to get s3, 4 f1 HD so few more weeks news not so bad.

spiderplant 03-07-2014 21:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711806)
NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this post is still subject to change.
Even if you did work for Virgin Media it would still be subject to change :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35711813)
Indeed. Very odd to a give a minority channel such a prominent slot.
It's easily the most popular Sky Sports channel - bear in mind most VM customers don't subscribe to the Premiums. It's all unconfirmed anyway.

Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35711828)
Still yet to understand why it's taking so long to launch these channels if the contract has been signed?
Have you considered that the contract may specify the launch date?

Dave42 03-07-2014 21:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35711851)
All sounding good shame about HD news taking so long, but not the end of the world waited years to get s3, 4 f1 HD so few more weeks news not so bad.
was always gonna be after the world cup blue

Media Boy UK 03-07-2014 22:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Base on that post from 7pm tonight.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post2326.html

Sky Movies channels on Virgin Media are just moving channel numbers to have the same lineup as Sky viewers but starting with an 4.

On that list Channel 160 is free from July 15th so maybe Sky Living +1 will move to channel 160 on that day.

1andrew1 04-07-2014 06:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35711828)
Still yet to understand why it's taking so long to launch these channels if the contract has been signed?
I told you there would be big news when you went away. ;)

DaMac 04-07-2014 07:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Cmon VM sort those channel numbers out, where they playing sports channel lottery?

nicko 04-07-2014 08:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35711812)
Great news MB. Slightly surprised that SSN is the first channel on 501/511, would have thought this would be better at end and SS1 on 501/511.

Indeed, whoever sorted the sports channels in that order must have been p****d!:)

Ultimate.Conj 04-07-2014 08:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-501. Sky Sports News - was 515
-502. Sky Sports 1 - was 511
-503. Sky Sports 2 - was 512
-504. Sky Sports 3 - was 513
-505. Sky Sports 4 - was 514
-506. Sky Sports 5 (Coming August 12th)
-507. Sky Sports F1 - was 516
-511. Sky Sports News HD (Launch date TBC)
-512. Sky Sports 1 HD - was 517
-513. Sky Sports 2 HD - was 518
-514. Sky Sports 3 HD
-515. Sky Sports 4 HD
-516. Sky Sports 5 HD (Coming August 12th)
-517. Sky Sports F1 HD

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this post is still subject to change.



©copyright 2014 Media Boy 2006 - 2014. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.[/QUOTE]

Cheers for the info, MB

Putting SSN on 501 is a bit strange, 500 would have made more sense if they wanted to put it before the other sports channels....Those VM bosses do have some strange ideas :dunce:

andy_m 04-07-2014 08:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
I don't think the channel numbers are that big of a deal, and besides, Sky Sports News must be the most watched of all of them. It must make sense from Sky or Virgin's point of view. At least they're all together.

Much more important to my mind is the between 101 and 299. I bet there are people who don't realise they have some of those channels in hd.

---------- Post added at 09:49 ---------- Previous post was at 09:45 ----------

Looking at Sky's epg it looks like theirs goes 1, 2, 3, 4, news, f1, 5. I'm not sure that makes much sense either.

denphone 04-07-2014 09:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Its no big deal as far as l am concerned as SSN is the first channel l check of Sky's.

The Yank 04-07-2014 09:34
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35711819)
This would be better -

Sky Sports (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-501. Sky Sports 1 - was 511
-502. Sky Sports 2 - was 512
-503. Sky Sports 3 - was 513
-504. Sky Sports 4 - was 514
-505. Sky Sports 5 (Coming August 12th)
-506. Sky Sports F1 - was 516
-507. Sky Sports News - was 515
-511. Sky Sports 1 HD - was 517
-512. Sky Sports 2 HD - was 518
-513. Sky Sports 3 HD
-514. Sky Sports 4 HD
-515. Sky Sports 5 HD (Coming August 12th)
-516. Sky Sports F1 HD
-517. Sky Sports News HD (Launch date TBC)

Although forget about the order, we've got them all in HD :woot:
have to agree that having the channels in a LOGICAL order would be far more sensible but hopefully these numbers aren't set in stone ;)

nodrogd 04-07-2014 09:36
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711860)
On that list Channel 160 is free from July 15th so maybe Sky Living +1 will move to channel 160 on that day.
As 160 sits next to the channel being used for local TV, could be this will be used where franchise areas need to carry more than 1 local channel.

The clearing of 140 may be to facilitate the adding of 4HD+1 at a later date.

DaMac 04-07-2014 11:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35711881)
I don't think the channel numbers are that big of a deal, and besides, Sky Sports News must be the most watched of all of them. It must make sense from Sky or Virgin's point of view. At least they're all together.

Much more important to my mind is the between 101 and 299. I bet there are people who don't realise they have some of those channels in hd.

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Looking at Sky's epg it looks like theirs goes 1, 2, 3, 4, news, f1, 5. I'm not sure that makes much sense either.
To be fair SkySports 5 hasn't launched yet , I'm quite sure then when sky does a reshuffle that they will sort it, but to be actually changing channels about and come up with that... Ps I do think 500 would be great for ssn.

RichardCoulter 04-07-2014 12:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
I know that VM don't want to be seen as working in Skys shadow, but what do people think of VM completely aligning their channel numbers with Sky?

A lot of people get used to the channel numbers of their favourite channels, so this would make it easier and could be a selling point to encourage potential customers to move over.

I doubt Sky could object, or indeed would as they could use the same tactic to VM customers ie changing over is a little less painful.

Ultimate.Conj 04-07-2014 12:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35711923)
I know that VM don't want to be seen as working in Skys shadow, but what do people think of VM completely aligning their channel numbers with Sky?

A lot of people get used to the channel numbers of their favourite channels, so this would make it easier and could be a selling point to encourage potential customers to move over.

I doubt Sky could object, or indeed would as they could use the same tactic to VM customers ie changing over is a little less painful.
I don't mind VM having different EPG numbers, I have been with VM for nearly 5 years now, so I have completely forgotten the Sky EPG numbers.

For me, they just need to be in a more logical order...The SD Channel, the +1 version, then the HD version...I would prefer the HD first, but thats personal preference.

Having SS1 as 502...is not logical on my behalf...everyone is different of course.

Doug P 04-07-2014 13:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35711821)
EXCELLENT. Looking forward to this.
Indeed. The numbers do not bother me the arrival of the channels is what matters to me!

Ultimate.Conj 04-07-2014 13:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35711937)
Indeed. The numbers do not bother me the arrival of the channels is what matters to me!
That's true, just having the channels is the important thing.
I always filter by HD so I don't mind the actual EPG number, having them in a logical way is just a bonus.

MalteseFalcon 04-07-2014 13:41
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I'm just looking forward to the first golf tournament after the channels come which will be the Russian Open on 24 July. The definition is not bad in SD, but I find in HD you can see the contours of the green much clearer and sharper.

undertakereddie 04-07-2014 13:50
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I Can't Wait For Me to Watch More WWE in HD Every week. The Only 2 Reasons I Have Sky Sports is For Football and WWE Wrestling. I also Watch Sky Sports News Every Weekday afternoon if im not busy.

DaMac 04-07-2014 15:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35711923)
I know that VM don't want to be seen as working in Skys shadow, but what do people think of VM completely aligning their channel numbers with Sky?

A lot of people get used to the channel numbers of their favourite channels, so this would make it easier and could be a selling point to encourage potential customers to move over.

I doubt Sky could object, or indeed would as they could use the same tactic to VM customers ie changing over is a little less painful.
Not at all, on the whole sky's channel numbering is a mess with +1's all over the place, living and Livingit are miles apart - I prefer VM numbering, if they had HD swap it would be even better, I just think they have got this one massively wrong.

andy_m 04-07-2014 15:57
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35711974)
Not at all, on the whole sky's channel numbering is a mess with +1's all over the place, living and Livingit are miles apart - I prefer VM numbering, if they had HD swap it would be even better, I just think they have got this one massively wrong.
Massively?

I really think there's been an overreaction here. Pressing 502 requires the same effort as pressing 501 and once they've been in place a little while people won't even realise. Besides which I have no doubt that epg placement was part of the negotiation and, for whatever reason the numbering has been agreed and is desired by at least one of the parties.

More to the point we will soon have all Sky Sports channels in hd. Virgin deserve a bit of credit for pulling off a deal nobody else in the UK has so far managed.

muppetman11 04-07-2014 16:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Can't understand why people get so hung up about the EPG and channel loacations , I generally just enter the desired channel number or go into the HD section of the EPG usually a few presses of the channel up/down has me on the desired page , let's be honest if you have HD why use the SD version.

Mad Max 04-07-2014 16:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35711980)
Can't understand why people get so hung up about the EPG and channel loacations , I generally just enter the desired channel number or go into the HD section of the EPG usually a few presses of the channel up/down has me on the desired page , let's be honest if you have HD why use the SD version.
100% agree......:tu:

RichardCoulter 04-07-2014 17:24
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35711980)
Can't understand why people get so hung up about the EPG and channel loacations , I generally just enter the desired channel number or go into the HD section of the EPG usually a few presses of the channel up/down has me on the desired page , let's be honest if you have HD why use the SD version.
My thinking is that it would be easier to remember the channel number to start with if they were aligned and people swapped from one platform to another.

Also, it would make it easier when channels are marketing themselves.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35711974)
Not at all, on the whole sky's channel numbering is a mess with +1's all over the place, living and Livingit are miles apart - I prefer VM numbering, if they had HD swap it would be even better, I just think they have got this one massively wrong.
Well, it does seem sensible to have Sky Sports 1 ending with a one etc to make things a little easier. If you know the sports channels start with a uniform number and/or know the EPG number of your favourite Sky Sports channel, it does make it quicker and easier to figure out the EPG position of other channels.

However, if Sky's EPG is a mess (and the fact that, unlike VM, Sky has to allocate EPG numbers in a fair, reasonable and non discriminatory manner) my suggestion may not be feasible.

I'll create a poll to see what people think, if it's a 'yes' verdict, I'll mention it to my main VM contact. (I don't like to talk shop too often as I only see him at social occasions these days).

The poll can be found here:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...d-sky-epg.html

ocav 04-07-2014 19:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35711990)
However, if Sky's EPG is a mess (and the fact that, unlike VM, Sky has to allocate EPG numbers in a fair, reasonable and non discriminatory manner) my suggestion may not be feasible.
Sky does not allocate EPG numbers. They are traded between broadcasters.

VirginMediaPhil 04-07-2014 20:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradox295 (Post 35711829)
Good. Having Sky Living before Sky1 just made no sense.
That was a remnant of when Virgin Media used to own Living, they obviously put their own channels in front of Sky's. Then when Sky bought Virgin Media Television, it obviously didn't make sense anymore, but at least they've finally changed it.

Paradox295 04-07-2014 21:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35712056)
That was a remnant of when Virgin Media used to own Living, they obviously put their own channels in front of Sky's. Then when Sky bought Virgin Media Television, it obviously didn't make sense anymore, but at least they've finally changed it.
Indeed they did.

You would have thought once they sold the channels they would have moved Sky Living down and the Channel 4/Channel 5 channels up.

This makes sense, too, I guess.

RichardCoulter 04-07-2014 21:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35712044)
Sky does not allocate EPG numbers. They are traded between broadcasters.
It's a bit of both really, new HD slots are allocated by Sky. Old SD slots are traded between broadcasters and may end up staying where they are or reallocated a number by Sky if another genre section is more appropriate.

Maggy 04-07-2014 21:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35711980)
Can't understand why people get so hung up about the EPG and channel loacations , I generally just enter the desired channel number or go into the HD section of the EPG usually a few presses of the channel up/down has me on the desired page , let's be honest if you have HD why use the SD version.
Well we all have to have something to moan about..;) After all that was how this site got started way back when.

RichardCoulter 04-07-2014 21:31
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I remember the old sites.

I never use HD channels to record from, as this eats up space on my V+ box.

Sometimes I watch HD channels whilst watching live TV, as, even though I only have a SD set, I believe that this still shows a better picture because the source is of a better quality.

Media Boy UK 05-07-2014 11:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711806)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: New Sky Sports HD Channels set to launch on July 15th.

Media Boy HQ can now reveal that the following new channel launches and new channel numbers should happen on July 15th on Virgin Media:

Sky Basic (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-109. Sky 1 - was 121
-110. Sky 1 HD - was 122
-111. Sky Living - was 109
-112. Sky Living HD - was 110
-121. Sky 2 - was 123
-122. Sky Living It - was 112
-123. Pick - was 180
-140. Sky Living It+1 - was 160
-180. Challenge +1 - was 140
-TBC. Sky Living +1 - was 111

Sky Movies (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-404. Sky Movies Greats - was 410
-405. Sky Movies Disney - was 407
-407. Sky Movies Act+Adv - was 405
-408. Sky Movies Comedy - was 404
-409. Sky Movies Crime - was 411
-410. Sky Movies Drama - was 408
-411. Sky Movies Scifi - was 409
-434. Sky Movies Greats HD - was 440
-435. Sky Movies Disney HD - was 437
-437. Sky Movies Act+Adv HD - was 435
-438. Sky Movies Comedy HD - was 434
-439. Sky Movies Crime HD - was 441
-440. Sky Movies Drama HD - was 438
-441. Sky Movies Scifi HD - was 439

Sky Sports (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-501. Sky Sports News - was 515
-502. Sky Sports 1 - was 511
-503. Sky Sports 2 - was 512
-504. Sky Sports 3 - was 513
-505. Sky Sports 4 - was 514
-506. Sky Sports 5 (Coming August 12th)
-507. Sky Sports F1 - was 516
-511. Sky Sports News HD (Launch date TBC)
-512. Sky Sports 1 HD - was 517
-513. Sky Sports 2 HD - was 518
-514. Sky Sports 3 HD
-515. Sky Sports 4 HD
-516. Sky Sports 5 HD (Coming August 12th)
-517. Sky Sports F1 HD

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this post is still subject to change.

©copyright 2014 Media Boy 2006 - 2014. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.
Just one small change to the info I gave you on Thursday.

-Sky Living +1 is changing to 140 from 111.
-Sky Living It +1 as it stands will stay at 160.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35711836)
Very good news :) Will SkySports and movies be available on the ipad app from then too MediaBoy?
More news on Monday...;)

vincerooney 05-07-2014 13:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Ah! So we can finally watch sky sports on mobile soon?? Good times ahead!

dwarfofpoison 05-07-2014 16:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35712127)
Ah! So we can finally watch sky sports on mobile soon?? Good times ahead!
Even if SKY has allowed virgin to stream their channels on mobiles (TV Anyŵhere), I thought it is Virgin that only stream live TV over WI FI. So unless even more things are coming soon, it's a "not really").

ChrisB74 05-07-2014 18:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35711819)
This would be better -

Sky Sports (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-501. Sky Sports 1 - was 511
-502. Sky Sports 2 - was 512
-503. Sky Sports 3 - was 513
-504. Sky Sports 4 - was 514
-505. Sky Sports 5 (Coming August 12th)
-506. Sky Sports F1 - was 516
-507. Sky Sports News - was 515
-511. Sky Sports 1 HD - was 517
-512. Sky Sports 2 HD - was 518
-513. Sky Sports 3 HD
-514. Sky Sports 4 HD
-515. Sky Sports 5 HD (Coming August 12th)
-516. Sky Sports F1 HD
-517. Sky Sports News HD (Launch date TBC)

Although forget about the order, we've got them all in HD :woot:
Absolutely agreed. Just beggars belief sometimes who thick some of these highly paid VM executives are. I mean how on Gods green earth could someone put a channel called SKY SPORTS 1 ... ONE ONE ONE and have it with EPG number ending in TWO!!! Arghh - VM will you please just get a grip and do something sensible for once ... Please!!!!

vincerooney 05-07-2014 18:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisB74 (Post 35712190)
Absolutely agreed. Just beggars belief sometimes who thick some of these highly paid VM executives are. I mean how on Gods green earth could someone put a channel called SKY SPORTS 1 ... ONE ONE ONE and have it with EPG number ending in TWO!!! Arghh - VM will you please just get a grip and do something sensible for once ... Please!!!!
BT sport 1 is on channel 547 tho?

ozsat 05-07-2014 19:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Well Sky Sports 5 on Sky is on 407

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisB74 (Post 35712190)
Absolutely agreed. Just beggars belief sometimes who thick some of these highly paid VM executives are. I mean how on Gods green earth could someone put a channel called SKY SPORTS 1 ... ONE ONE ONE and have it with EPG number ending in TWO!!! Arghh - VM will you please just get a grip and do something sensible for once ... Please!!!!

theone2k10 05-07-2014 19:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwarfofpoison (Post 35712153)
Even if SKY has allowed virgin to stream their channels on mobiles (TV Anyŵhere), I thought it is Virgin that only stream live TV over WI FI. So unless even more things are coming soon, it's a "not really").
Streaming over 3G/4G is in the pipeline and should be with us by the end of Autumn 2014.

---------- Post added at 20:21 ---------- Previous post was at 20:20 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35712195)
BT sport 1 is on channel 547 tho?
And itv1 is on 103 too :p:

andy_m 05-07-2014 19:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35712072)
I remember the old sites.

I never use HD channels to record from, as this eats up space on my V+ box.

Sometimes I watch HD channels whilst watching live TV, as, even though I only have a SD set, I believe that this still shows a better picture because the source is of a better quality.
So if this is possible, why, with the exception of those channels that have regional variations, why on earth do we continue to have an sd and an hd version of the same channel? If we only had hd versions, and these could still be watched by people with sd tv's, we wouldn't need to worry about hd swap. Would we?

:awaitstechinicalexplanationwhythiswontworksmiley:

blue666666 05-07-2014 19:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35712199)
Streaming over 3G/4G is in the pipeline and should be with us by the end of Autumn 2014.
Is this for all channels or just sky channels?.

RichardCoulter 05-07-2014 20:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35712203)
So if this is possible, why, with the exception of those channels that have regional variations, why on earth do we continue to have an sd and an hd version of the same channel? If we only had hd versions, and these could still be watched by people with sd tv's, we wouldn't need to worry about hd swap. Would we?

:awaitstechinicalexplanationwhythiswontworksmiley:
I guess the V+ downscales the HD channels to make this possible. I find the SD channels useful for recording as recording in HD just eats up disc space.

If VM were to get rid of the SD channels, they'd have to replace the box for customers still using SD boxes. As VM own their own network, they won't have to pay for the extra bandwith (unlike Sky), so it may be more cost effective for them to keep things as they are, unless capacity becomes an issue.

Does anybody know what % of customers are still using SD boxes?

Risco 05-07-2014 21:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Will the iPad and iPhone be able to stream sky sports from July 15th?

theone2k10 05-07-2014 22:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35712205)
Is this for all channels or just sky channels?.
All channels on anytime app.

---------- Post added at 23:12 ---------- Previous post was at 23:12 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35712221)
Will the iPad and iPhone be able to stream sky sports from July 15th?
No.

Risco 05-07-2014 22:13
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35712226)
All channels on anytime app.

---------- Post added at 23:12 ---------- Previous post was at 23:12 ----------



No.
But will be in the Autumn?

theone2k10 05-07-2014 23:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35712229)
But will be in the Autumn?
Should be yes.

LondonRoad 06-07-2014 01:23
Re: Liar, fantasist, or idiot
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35694177)
I was a a party earlier this week & met some Virgin/liberty staff.

Spoke at length to them including about this forum. The strapline some up the comment on postings from an "insider " the last refers to if true ( the insider) then believing that it is real means ..... :rolleyes:

me I go with #2
This is clearly in the wrong thread since it's an anagram of the meaning of life.

RichardCoulter 06-07-2014 03:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35712250)
This is clearly in the wrong thread since it's an anagram of the meaning of life.
Itshim often pops in to gratuitously tell us how much we are all wasting our time in this thread, but I must admit that this was one of his more bizzare posts :D

vincerooney 06-07-2014 10:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35712258)
Itshim often pops in to gratuitously tell us how much we are all wasting our time in this thread, but I must admit that this was one of his more bizzare posts :D
That blew my mind from him! Were we meant to understand it?? It's quite some riddle

Itshim 06-07-2014 12:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35712295)
That blew my mind from him! Were we meant to understand it?? It's quite some riddle
OK for "whatever" you wish to be called in simple english.

He is a liar , a fantasist, or fool (someone is pulling his leg big time.)

Anyone caught "leaking" company information would be fired. Do really think a member of staff is that crazy.

There are many web sites that disseminated the sort of "facts" posted. Without claiming insider information.

I choose to look here to get the facts from a single source but of late these seem to be sadly missing.
I have been on the site since NTLhell days before that I had Cabletel & Rediffusion.

On the channel number it strikes me as really sad that it matters at all. Just put the ones you like in favorites, if you can not read well enough to look all the time:erm:

johnasimmons 06-07-2014 14:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35712311)
OK for "whatever" you wish to be called in simple english.

He is a liar , a fantasist, or fool (someone is pulling his leg big time.)

Anyone caught "leaking" company information would be fired. Do really think a member of staff is that crazy.

There are many web sites that disseminated the sort of "facts" posted. Without claiming insider information.

I choose to look here to get the facts from a single source but of late these seem to be sadly missing.
I have been on the site since NTLhell days before that I had Cabletel & Rediffusion.

On the channel number it strikes me as really sad that it matters at all. Just put the ones you like in favorites, if you can not read well enough to look all the time:erm:
Well said :)

andy_m 06-07-2014 14:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35712311)
OK for "whatever" you wish to be called in simple english.

He is a liar , a fantasist, or fool (someone is pulling his leg big time.)

Anyone caught "leaking" company information would be fired. Do really think a member of staff is that crazy.

There are many web sites that disseminated the sort of "facts" posted. Without claiming insider information.

I choose to look here to get the facts from a single source but of late these seem to be sadly missing.
I have been on the site since NTLhell days before that I had Cabletel & Rediffusion.

On the channel number it strikes me as really sad that it matters at all. Just put the ones you like in favorites, if you can not read well enough to look all the time:erm:
Leaking information is a very good way of putting information into the public domain that you're not necessarily authorised to do but is to your advantage. Are you really that naive that you think it doesn't happen?

RichardCoulter 06-07-2014 16:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35712353)
Leaking information is a very good way of putting information into the public domain that you're not necessarily authorised to do but is to your advantage. Are you really that naive that you think it doesn't happen?
Exactly, this is done frequently in business and by political parties.

I think Itshim is under the impression that all channel launches are some sort of top secret information. Most launches aren't commercially sensitive to be treated as such. Any channel launches that are sensitive ARE embargoed. The only times I have come across this was for the BT Sport channels, the return of the Sky basics and the discussions to bring the remaining Sky Sports HD channels to VM. I have known my main contact since university days and was unable to get any information from him.

For most other channels, it matters not if advance notice of their launch gets out.

If I can give some examples. Re: The Africa Channel. I gave the heads up to members about this impending launch and the new date when this was put back.

VM are aware that this launch was never going to set the world of broadcasting alight, so I doubt they could have cared less (and the subsequent comments on here about this addition appear to back this up!) The Africa Channel themselves were aware of this "leak" and weren't at all concerned- they even sent me a CD :D

When the forum was busy with speculation about BT Sports, however, it was a total lockdown.

Another member flagged up the impending launch of CBS Action as VM had included this in the forthcoming monthly list of channels in the channel guide.

Does Itshim think that VM would have done this if they were at all bothered? On the other hand, I doubt that any contract would allow them to give advance notice of Sky Atlantic.

To summarise, Itshim is right in the sense that VM will do all it can to stop any sensitive channel launch/information from getting out (that's not to say that it won't, leaks by employees of various companies can and do happen all the time). For most channel launches this is simply not applicable.

devilincarnate 06-07-2014 19:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35712311)

Anyone caught "leaking" company information would be fired. Do really think a member of staff is that crazy.
You need to look at the leaks for BlackBerry then:erm:

Media Boy UK 07-07-2014 10:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Rumour: Sky Sports and Sky Movies apps may launch by August.

Steams for the Sky Sports and Movie channels may launch on mobile devices by August.

However, unlike the other channels the Sky Sports and Movies will not be accessed through the Virgin TV Anywhere app.


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