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johnathome 01-12-2015 16:59
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35810953)
Interesting Sky Go on Amazon Fire tablets.

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/46779...n-amazon-fire/


Now TV on Amazon Fire TV and tablets ?
Excellent, now i can uninstall the sideloaded app i have :)

Oh hang on, this isn't FireTV is it? :(

OLD BOY 01-12-2015 17:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35810934)
Now, Who is most likely to be watching online video? Young People. That makes the report skewed already Many young people will download illegal content, which will be add free anyway.

A valid report should include an even cross section of the population, and that survey isn't it. Therefore, to me it is invalid.

I am surprised that someone like yourself, who hates adverts is keen for BBC programmes to include them. Do you want the BBC to include them in Radio as well?
Well, you have a fair point regarding this particular poll, but there is plenty of alternative evidence available to support my comment that a sizeable proportion of the British public don't want to pay the TV licence. This is why the Government is looking at the subscription option as soon as the technology allows.

I don't mind the BBC having ads between programmes to top up their funding as long as I can have an option to skip them! :D

passingbat 01-12-2015 19:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35810959)
but there is plenty of alternative evidence available to support my comment that a sizeable proportion of the British public don't want to pay the TV licence. This is why the Government is looking at the subscription option as soon as the technology allows.
You're kidding, right? The government are looking into to that because they want to destroy the BBC, and please their mate Rupert.

Internet forums such as this are no place to gauge support for an ad-funded BBC as posters here are definitely nowhere near a cross-section of the viewing public.

I think you need to come up with a better set of statistics to support you assertion.

And given you're the one who made it, in my view, it's your place to find the evidence to back it up ;)

OLD BOY 02-12-2015 14:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35810969)
You're kidding, right? The government are looking into to that because they want to destroy the BBC, and please their mate Rupert.

Internet forums such as this are no place to gauge support for an ad-funded BBC as posters here are definitely nowhere near a cross-section of the viewing public.

I think you need to come up with a better set of statistics to support you assertion.

And given you're the one who made it, in my view, it's your place to find the evidence to back it up ;)
The Government does not want to destroy the BBC,they want to scale down their in built advantage and reduce waste paid for by the taxpayer.

As for the statistics, there are many comments made on this forum that cannot be substantiated and yet the authors of such comments are never asked for statistics to back them up. I don't know why you expect that of me, considering all the reports that have been made of viewer discontent about the licence fee.

I think you should be coming up with the stats if you want to prove me and the media wrong...;)

steveh 02-12-2015 15:53
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Couldn't this move to the licence fee thread?

passingbat 02-12-2015 16:30
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35811032)

As for the statistics, there are many comments made on this forum that cannot be substantiated and yet the authors of such comments are never asked for statistics to back them up. I don't know why you expect that of me, considering all the reports that have been made of viewer discontent about the licence fee.
Because you regularly make statements, as if they are facts, with no evidence to back them up (remember Sky Atlantic? Several people asked you to produce evidence for your stance on that).

And you've just done it again:

Quote:
considering all the reports that have been made of viewer discontent about the licence fee
The inference to me from that statement is that the complaints are overwhelming. Sometimes, that can be confused with a small vocal minority making a lot of noise. And that is where the need for real evidence comes in, to distinguish between the two.

Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35811057)
Couldn't this move to the licence fee thread?
You're probably right. But as with all forums and threads within them, occasionally they wander slightly off topic when someone makes a statement that someone responds to.

And with BBC 3 going to a streaming service, surely the BBC falls within the thread topic title? After all, discussion on potential adds on Netflix would be deemed as valid.

But in my view, this aspect of the 'BBC and adds' should have a limited lifespan on this particular thread, given that there is a more appropriate thread on which to discuss it.

steveh 02-12-2015 17:14
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Maybe it's time Cable Forum had a board for streaming services given we're now on page 154 and there's no doubt a lot of broadband-only Virgin customers using them.

OLD BOY 02-12-2015 18:36
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35811062)
Because you regularly make statements, as if they are facts, with no evidence to back them up (remember Sky Atlantic? Several people asked you to produce evidence for your stance on that).

And you've just done it again:

The inference to me from that statement is that the complaints are overwhelming. Sometimes, that can be confused with a small vocal minority making a lot of noise. And that is where the need for real evidence comes in, to distinguish between the two.
C'mon, Harry, are we really going back to the Sky Atlantic debate, which is so last year! I have already given an explanation for what I said before, which was based on several reports which turned out not to have led anywhere in the end.

As for your last comment, see the link below. There's more where this came from but I think we should leave it there. I accept that you may disagree, but we don't need to resort to pedantry just because we have different views. I've read far more controversial and outrageous remarks on these forums than this, and they haven't been asked repeatedly to come up with facts and figures to justify their view. After all, this is a discussion forum.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...-scrapped.html

One last thing to press the point. You have stated previously that Netflix will eventually carry adverts. However, your view goes directly against what Netflix have said, but you haven't produced good evidence to justify your view. Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting you to now start researching this to prove yourself right (although I suspect you will have some difficulty with that), I simply accept that this is your view.

I hope that clears it up, but anyway, let's move on. :)

:walk:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35811065)
Maybe it's time Cable Forum had a board for streaming services given we're now on page 154 and there's no doubt a lot of broadband-only Virgin customers using them.
Isn't that what this is?

passingbat 02-12-2015 18:48
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35811076)

One last thing to press the point. You have stated previously that Netflix will eventually carry adverts. However, your view goes directly against what Netflix have said, but you haven't produced good evidence to justify your view. Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting you to now start researching this to prove yourself right (although I suspect you will have some difficulty with that), I simply accept that this is your view.
Who are you addressing?

You quote me and address Harry.

And for the record, I have never said that Netflix will take adds. Only recently I suggested that add free streaming is so appealing, due to add free services such as Netflix that I think services will offer an extra tariff, add free option, just as Hulu have just successfully done.

OLD BOY 02-12-2015 18:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35811081)
Who are you addressing?

You quote me and address Harry.

And for the record, I have never said that Netflix will take adds. Only recently I suggested that add free streaming is so appealing, due to add free services such as Netflix that I think services will offer an extra tariff, add free option, just as Hulu have just successfully done.
Whoops, sorry - I had just read something on here from Harry and I thought this post was his. Apologies. :blush::blush::sorry::

harry_hitch 02-12-2015 19:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35811076)
C'mon, Harry, are we really going back to the Sky Atlantic debate, which is so last year! I have already given an explanation for what I said before, which was based on several reports which turned out not to have led anywhere in the end.

As for your last comment, see the link below. There's more where this came from but I think we should leave it there. I accept that you may disagree, but we don't need to resort to pedantry just because we have different views. I've read far more controversial and outrageous remarks on these forums than this, and they haven't been asked repeatedly to come up with facts and figures to justify their view. After all, this is a discussion forum.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...-scrapped.html

One last thing to press the point. You have stated previously that Netflix will eventually carry adverts. However, your view goes directly against what Netflix have said, but you haven't produced good evidence to justify your view. Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting you to now start researching this to prove yourself right (although I suspect you will have some difficulty with that), I simply accept that this is your view.

I hope that clears it up, but anyway, let's move on. :)

:walk:[COLOR="Silver"]
Bless ya OB, I think you have crossed the streams with who are having discussions with.:).

With regards the Telegraph article (over a year old) it also highlights the BBC say more people support the license fee than before. But, lets ignore that article and try and find a more recent one to back up statement about the large amounts of anger towards the license fee. I don't go to work, the pub or the gym and see groups of people, irritated and red-faced talking about the rip-off that is the license fee.

With regards Netflix, yup, I do believe they will bring ad's to the service, and you are right, I can't produce much to back up my thoughts. Their owner said they were testing for ad's sometime ago and there was outrage. A couple of days later the CEO had to release a statement (backtrack) saying they would only advertise their own shows. Also, look at the price increases that have happened recently. Next year nextflix (with HD) is going to cost £2-£3 extra month for it's services. What will it cost in 5 years without ad's? Theone has also highlighted that HULU have an "ad-free" service, even though they run one ad through the show. Sky on-demand show ads, you have stated all4 have started running the odd ad. In the long term, no commercial business will be able to turn down the option to keep costs down through adverts.

passingbat 02-12-2015 19:27
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35811084)
Whoops, sorry - I had just read something on here from Harry and I thought this post was his. Apologies. :blush::blush::sorry::

No problem OB. I dislike adds as much as you, which makes your stance on the BBC rather puzzling to me.

Interesting that he final paragraph in that report conflicts with the rest of the article. Taking both into account, if correct (and both sides can manipulate figures in their favour), it seems to be around 50-50.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35811088)
Sky on-demand show ads, .
Providing you watch on catchup, Now TV is add-free. You do get the odd couple of second channel ident. Sky obviously think that their Now TV subscribers are a bit thick and can't remember which channel they are watching :D

OLD BOY 02-12-2015 19:49
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35811094)
No problem OB. I dislike adds as much as you, which makes your stance on the BBC rather puzzling to me.

Interesting that he final paragraph in that report conflicts with the rest of the article. Taking both into account, if correct (and both sides can manipulate figures in their favour), it seems to be around 50-50.

---------- Post added at 19:27 ---------- Previous post was at 19:19 ----------



Providing you watch on catchup, Now TV is add-free. You do get the odd couple of second channel ident. Sky obviously think that their Now TV subscribers are a bit thick and can't remember which channel they are watching :D
I watch Now TV and after a (fair) few drinks, I might fall into that category! :erm:

theone2k10 02-12-2015 22:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35811094)
No problem OB. I dislike adds as much as you, which makes your stance on the BBC rather puzzling to me.

Interesting that he final paragraph in that report conflicts with the rest of the article. Taking both into account, if correct (and both sides can manipulate figures in their favour), it seems to be around 50-50.

---------- Post added at 19:27 ---------- Previous post was at 19:19 ----------



Providing you watch on catchup, Now TV is add-free. You do get the odd couple of second channel ident. Sky obviously think that their Now TV subscribers are a bit thick and can't remember which channel they are watching :D
I normally can't remember which channel i'm watching once the old jack daniels kicks in hehe :D

Mad Max 02-12-2015 22:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35811142)
I normally can't remember which channel i'm watching once the old jack daniels kicks in hehe :D
lol, you'd need that for most of the crap that they have on nowadays, that passes for "so called" entertainment, the majority watching that stuff are friggin bonkers!

RichardCoulter 03-12-2015 00:19
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http://help.nowtv.com/article/Pringl...rts-Pass-offer

Free Sky Sports day pass if you buy two packs of Pringles for £2 at Tesco.

Info thanks to Chad.

theone2k10 03-12-2015 00:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35811143)
lol, you'd need that for most of the crap that they have on nowadays, that passes for "so called" entertainment, the majority watching that stuff are friggin bonkers!
Haha very true lol, i watch mostly netflix and on demand these days.

steveh 03-12-2015 09:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35811076)
Isn't that what this is?
No, it's a single thread in which absolutely everything to do with streaming services and any related topics gets mushed up together, when it probably merits a whole separate board these days given how many services there are and how many people are using them.

denphone 03-12-2015 11:51
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YouTube tipped to strike licensing deals for TV shows and films.

Quote:
YouTube is preparing to strike deals with Hollywood studios and television firms to bring films and TV shows to its YouTube Red subscription service.

The online video service is keen for its $9.99-a-month service to compete more directly with rivals such as Netflix, Amazon and Hulu, according to the Wall Street Journal.

OLD BOY 03-12-2015 12:22
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35811189)
No, it's a single thread in which absolutely everything to do with streaming services and any related topics gets mushed up together, when it probably merits a whole separate board these days given how many services there are and how many people are using them.
What would you call it? I don't understand what it is you want to have separately. Are you suggesting 'Amazon/Streaming Services', 'Apple/Streaming Services', etc? That would keep the discussion relevant to those who have an interest in just the one provider, but a lot of these debates are about streaming services generally. Don't you think this would cramp our style a bit?

Views from others on this would be welcome, but I'm not really convinced.

steveh, you could always start the threads you envisage and we will see how well they are used.

muppetman11 03-12-2015 13:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35811222)
YouTube tipped to strike licensing deals for TV shows and films.
Here come the big players , I'm sure behind the scenes Apple are working hard on doing similar. Netflix and Amazon could have some real competition.

theone2k10 03-12-2015 16:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35811247)
Here come the big players , I'm sure behind the scenes Apple are working hard on doing similar. Netflix and Amazon could have some real competition.
Apple are already working on a tv subscription service.

toady 03-12-2015 18:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35811235)
Views from others on this would be welcome, but I'm not really convinced.
Keep it all in one thread, currently use Netflix, Amazon and Now TV and I prefer everything together so that I don't miss anything

RichardCoulter 04-12-2015 02:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toady (Post 35811286)
Keep it all in one thread, currently use Netflix, Amazon and Now TV and I prefer everything together so that I don't miss anything
I've often (perhaps incorrectly) assumed that those who use streaming services use more than one provider.

I've created this poll to try and gauge the correct position:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35811333

I'd be grateful if anybody in this thread (as it's dedicated to streaming services) could take the time to vote.

Many thanks.

love Virgin2013 04-12-2015 02:46
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Does anyone know if Now TV are going to add anymore live channels anytime soon?

steveh 04-12-2015 08:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35811235)
What would you call it? I don't understand what it is you want to have separately.
A "Streaming services" sub-forum under "Other Digital TV Services Discussion" to go alongside the Freesat and Freeview ones.

RichardCoulter 05-12-2015 01:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35811189)
No, it's a single thread in which absolutely everything to do with streaming services and any related topics gets mushed up together, when it probably merits a whole separate board these days given how many services there are and how many people are using them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by toady (Post 35811286)
Keep it all in one thread, currently use Netflix, Amazon and Now TV and I prefer everything together so that I don't miss anything
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35811351)
A "Streaming services" sub-forum under "Other Digital TV Services Discussion" to go alongside the Freesat and Freeview ones.
In the old days this is how forums were normally laid out, but the problem with this in the modern age is that people are using more than one service and/or provider.

The 'Coming Soon' thread often goes of topic because VM cable users get drawn into discussions about the other services that they now use in parallel eg Freesat for the missing FTA channels on VM, Now TV to access Sky Atlantic etc.

To add to the mix, the poll that I created shows that most people don't just stick to one streaming service provider either!

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What happens with streaming services when a programme or film is about to expire?

If you start watching a film, say, at 11.30pm that expires at midnight, does it cut you off or let you watch it until the end?

If the system crashed I imagine that you'd miss the ending, which would be very annoying.

johnasimmons 05-12-2015 14:00
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Has anyone else also noticed how bad the sound is on the sd & hd versions of "Ash v Evil Dead"? :(

theone2k10 05-12-2015 16:17
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35811542)
Has anyone else also noticed how bad the sound is on the sd & hd versions of "Ash v Evil Dead"? :(
Perfect quality on Starz app mate i know it isn't uk or vm but it might help indicate there is a issue with VMs feed if any other VM users have same issue.

SnoopZ 06-12-2015 10:04
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Now that i have got the Now TV box 2015 version i have a few questions to you experts with them.

1. Is the box based on a Roku 2 or 3?

2. I believe it can be hacked via the developer menu?

3. If it can be hacked i heard i can side load 1 app only and alot of people side load the Plex app, if i did this could i somehow use my external Mybook World network drive with it without installing a Plex server on a PC that needs to be on all the time?

4. Can i hack the resolution to output in 1080p all the time in developer mode?

5. Does the USB port let me stream MKV and other content if i plug a memory stick into it?

6. Can i hack it to install the Roku firmware?

Thanks! :)

Mad Max 06-12-2015 12:41
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You sound a bit hacked off to me snoop.............;)

vincerooney 06-12-2015 13:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35811664)
You sound a bit hacked off to me snoop.............;)
haha you made me chuckle there. good work sir

SnoopZ 06-12-2015 16:45
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I need theone2k10 he knows his stuff. :)

theone2k10 06-12-2015 18:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35811648)
Now that i have got the Now TV box 2015 version i have a few questions to you experts with them.

1. Is the box based on a Roku 2 or 3?

2. I believe it can be hacked via the developer menu?

3. If it can be hacked i heard i can side load 1 app only and alot of people side load the Plex app, if i did this could i somehow use my external Mybook World network drive with it without installing a Plex server on a PC that needs to be on all the time?

4. Can i hack the resolution to output in 1080p all the time in developer mode?

5. Does the USB port let me stream MKV and other content if i plug a memory stick into it?

6. Can i hack it to install the Roku firmware?

Thanks! :)
1. Is the box based on a Roku 2 or 3? I think it is ROKU 3

2. I believe it can be hacked via the developer menu? no but you can access the developer menu. https://recombu.com/digital/article/...ode-now-tv-box

3. If it can be hacked i heard i can side load 1 app only and alot of people side load the Plex app, if i did this could i somehow use my external Mybook World network drive with it without installing a Plex server on a PC that needs to be on all the time? plex will work not sure about mybook

4. Can i hack the resolution to output in 1080p all the time in developer mode? no

5. Does the USB port let me stream MKV and other content if i plug a memory stick into it? you would need to sideload a app apparantly to play anything of a usb device, i recommend just sideloading rarplex and use your computer as a media system or paying a extra £30 and getting a ROKU3 which will have more options and apps, rokus do have all uktv catch up services as well as netflix, amazon video, nowtv, sky store etc.

6. Can i hack it to install the Roku firmware? no.

SnoopZ 06-12-2015 19:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35811711)
1. Is the box based on a Roku 2 or 3? I think it is ROKU 3

2. I believe it can be hacked via the developer menu? no but you can access the developer menu. https://recombu.com/digital/article/...ode-now-tv-box

3. If it can be hacked i heard i can side load 1 app only and alot of people side load the Plex app, if i did this could i somehow use my external Mybook World network drive with it without installing a Plex server on a PC that needs to be on all the time? plex will work not sure about mybook

4. Can i hack the resolution to output in 1080p all the time in developer mode? no

5. Does the USB port let me stream MKV and other content if i plug a memory stick into it? you would need to sideload a app apparantly to play anything of a usb device, i recommend just sideloading rarplex and use your computer as a media system or paying a extra £30 and getting a ROKU3 which will have more options and apps, rokus do have all uktv catch up services as well as netflix, amazon video, nowtv, sky store etc.

6. Can i hack it to install the Roku firmware? no.
Thanks for the info much appreciated! The box is in the bedroom so may not use it much, i was just after the 6 months entertainment pass for £19.99 that just happened to come with the box, got 6 months to mess with it on the Xbox One and 2 weeks of free Sky movies for over the Christmas period, but then i usually just get my stuff off newsgroups in a few mins.

steveh 08-12-2015 19:23
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Amazon.com's new add-on content bundles seem to be heavily targeting cable TV subscribers: http://www.aftvnews.com/summary-of-a...content-count/

Wonder when this will come to the UK and which companies here would offer bundles on it.

muppetman11 08-12-2015 20:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35812067)
Amazon.com's new add-on content bundles seem to be heavily targeting cable TV subscribers: http://www.aftvnews.com/summary-of-a...content-count/

Wonder when this will come to the UK and which companies here would offer bundles on it.
Not sure it will be a massive hit , seems a little pricey.

denphone 08-12-2015 20:18
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Indeed MM.....

Horizon 08-12-2015 23:35
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But it gives choice....

A long time ago I lobbied ntl to have smaller channel packages or choose your channels a al carte style, which they ignored.

Perhaps these Amazon packages are expensive, perhaps have little content, but it will push the US cablecos, telcos and satcos to be more flexible in their channel packages. When (if) Amazon/Netlix then introduce this here, it will make VM/Sky/BT take note and look again at more flexible options.

steveh 09-12-2015 09:37
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Precisely. The current packages are content owners dipping a toe in to see whether there is mileage in the idea - for example Comedy Central are right now only offering a limited subset of what they have. For high quality streams delivered from Amazon's servers and no ads I'd certainly be interested if the packages were right. There have also been rumours that Amazon plans to offer live channels in the very near future.

RichardCoulter 09-12-2015 12:29
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http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201512094...#axzz3teqWYZxF

Apple suspends/cancels planned TV service.

The above article says that the planned service has been suspended, but after reading the article, it appears it's been scrapped to me.

---------- Post added at 12:29 ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 ----------

Bad news for those who dislike adverts and US Ad Blockers:

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201512094...#axzz3teqWYZxF

muppetman11 09-12-2015 15:39
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Netflix and Sky Sports could be unblocked for European travellers

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ean-travellers

denphone 09-12-2015 16:43
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They will try to wriggle their way out of this one suspects if they can..

denphone 10-12-2015 08:59
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UK most advanced TV-watching country in world, research finds.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...edia-regulator

RichardCoulter 10-12-2015 11:33
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http://m.groupon.co.uk/deals/gg-photodirect-339

Apple TV for £49.99- with free delivery.

johnathome 11-12-2015 02:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35812151)
Netflix and Sky Sports could be unblocked for European travellers

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ean-travellers
FTL

Quote:
The BBC said that when legislation is introduced next year to close the so-called “iPlayer loophole”, which would see the licence fee extended to include video-on-demand viewing on the service, consumers will be able to access its online TV player in Europe.
Excellent, i assume this will be inputting your TV Licence number or something like that? As i don't ever use iPlayer that means i'll be able to sell my number to someone for a monthly fee, so recouping some of my outlay :)

Of course i'm just joking* but i wonder if that will happen?

*maybe i am ;)

steveh 11-12-2015 09:12
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Netflix are really accelerating the commissions, more now than even HBO:

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He said the company continues to ramp up original programming, with the number of scripted shows growing to 31 next year from 16 this year. Netflix also has 10 feature films in production or about to be released, 30 kids shows, a dozen documentaries and 10 stand-up specials. “It’s not just a lot of volume. This is quality stuff,” he said.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/new...netflix/146223

Horizon 11-12-2015 23:16
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Netflix's bosses have always said they want to be the new HBO with their own content. But, if in the near future they achieve that and only show their own stuff, will they still be successful?

The whole point of Netflix was to watch films, but if they only show their own films and tv, will everyone still subscribe in such large numbers as now?

To justify current subscription rates, let alone any future price rises, there will need to be a lot more than 30 new shows on Netflix.

vincerooney 12-12-2015 11:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35812492)
Netflix's bosses have always said they want to be the new HBO with their own content. But, if in the near future they achieve that and only show their own stuff, will they still be successful?

The whole point of Netflix was to watch films, but if they only show their own films and tv, will everyone still subscribe in such large numbers as now?

To justify current subscription rates, let alone any future price rises, there will need to be a lot more than 30 new shows on Netflix.
Not for me. I got Netflix to watch old tv shows as I liked. They're now removing a lot of content for their own made stuff. Haven't watched any of it except house of cards and they continue to remove stuff I like.

MalteseFalcon 12-12-2015 14:55
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Yes I am looking at whether it is still worth paying for every month, as i haven't watched any of their original content. However, I know my sister would be upset if I did cancel as she watches OITNB on there. Wonder if she's saying something?

passingbat 12-12-2015 15:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35812551)
i haven't watched any of their original content.

For any particular reason? They have commissioned some very good content.

MalteseFalcon 12-12-2015 16:38
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To be honest, I haven't looked at all of it but what I have seen of their original content just doesn't appeal to me. It might be that I am just not giving these things a chance, I might give some of them a watch over Christmas and New Year.

RichardCoulter 12-12-2015 17:17
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http://m.groupon.co.uk/deals/gg-photodirect-340

Google Chromecast £22.99 with free delivery ;-)

Not sure if this is the old or new version. I think they normally sell for about £35.

denphone 12-12-2015 17:39
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That's good if its the new one..

theone2k10 12-12-2015 19:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35812562)
To be honest, I haven't looked at all of it but what I have seen of their original content just doesn't appeal to me. It might be that I am just not giving these things a chance, I might give some of them a watch over Christmas and New Year.
I highly recommend beast of no nation.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35812568)
http://m.groupon.co.uk/deals/gg-photodirect-340

Google Chromecast £22.99 with free delivery ;-)

Not sure if this is the old or new version. I think they normally sell for about £35.
Keep a eye on Wuaki they do them for £19.99 basically it is a new release movie with a free chromecast 2.

steveh 13-12-2015 09:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35812492)
Netflix's bosses have always said they want to be the new HBO with their own content. But, if in the near future they achieve that and only show their own stuff, will they still be successful?
I'm sure they realise that to be a success they need both their own quality commissions and an archive of movies from elsewhere - which after all is exactly the model that HBO has.

Horizon 13-12-2015 21:18
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...hope so!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35812527)
Not for me. I got Netflix to watch old tv shows as I liked. They're now removing a lot of content for their own made stuff. Haven't watched any of it except house of cards and they continue to remove stuff I like.
This is the one issue with streaming services, you may have a list of stuff to watch, then turn on one day to watch it and find out it's been removed. To justify their prices, let alone any rises, content has to increase in quantity, not reduce.

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35812551)
Yes I am looking at whether it is still worth paying for every month, as i haven't watched any of their original content. However, I know my sister would be upset if I did cancel as she watches OITNB on there. Wonder if she's saying something?
Give some of their original shows a try, you may not like them, but you won't know until you do.

I wanted to hate House of Cards, mainly because it's a remake of an excellent British series of the same name. The American show was quite different, without our kind of humour and subtlety, but in the end I took it for what it was and forgot about comparing the two shows.

RichardCoulter 14-12-2015 01:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35812588)
I highly recommend beast of no nation.

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Keep a eye on Wuaki they do them for £19.99 basically it is a new release movie with a free chromecast 2.
Sounds even better!

theone2k10 14-12-2015 04:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35812753)
Sounds even better!
I got one awhile back but only the 1st generation chromecast was out then, i got the movie focus for 19.99 with a free chromecast, i have seen on hotukdeals it is now the chromecast 2nd generation they give away when they do the offers.

muppetman11 14-12-2015 10:42
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BBC Iplayer arrives on Apple TV.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...name=corporate

toady 14-12-2015 14:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35812769)
So just need Amazon Prime and NowTV to be added

RichardCoulter 14-12-2015 14:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35812769)
Now I am confused, I thought Apple were in the process of withdrawing from the TV market?

steveh 14-12-2015 15:14
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No. They only decided not to go ahead for now with offering live channels themselves.

muppetman11 14-12-2015 15:16
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Originally Posted by toady (Post 35812818)
So just need Amazon Prime and NowTV to be added
Isn't Now TV already available ?

toady 14-12-2015 17:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35812824)
Isn't Now TV already available ?
So it is, missed that addition, searching for Apps on the AppleTV is rubbish currently

RichardCoulter 14-12-2015 20:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35812823)
No. They only decided not to go ahead for now with offering live channels themselves.
Thanks for clearing that up :)

DaMac 15-12-2015 10:49
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Not a chance Amazon will arrive on AppleTV.

Khenryashley 15-12-2015 11:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35812901)
Not a chance Amazon will arrive on AppleTV.
http://9to5mac.com/?s=amazon+tv

OLD BOY 15-12-2015 12:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35812901)
Not a chance Amazon will arrive on AppleTV.
Never say never, DaMac! The reality will come around and bite you on the bum!

Mad Max 15-12-2015 23:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35812901)
Not a chance Amazon will arrive on AppleTV.

:D:D:D

RichardCoulter 22-12-2015 19:43
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http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201512224...#axzz3v52winwh

BT TV customers to be the first to enjoy 4k Netflix.

Khenryashley 22-12-2015 20:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35814012)
http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201512224...#axzz3v52winwh

BT TV customers to be the first to enjoy 4k Netflix.
Think this is a bit of false advertising.

Anyone with a smart 4k tv, with the Netflix app can watch 4k content with a Netflix 4k sub.
I got 6 months free 4K content with the tv. That was 6 months ago.

passingbat 23-12-2015 08:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35814012)
http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201512224...#axzz3v52winwh

BT TV customers to be the first to enjoy 4k Netflix.
Technically it's true because of this part: 'first UK service provider'

But, for the reasons given above, in reality, it's nonsense.

Khenryashley 23-12-2015 10:12
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I agree

RichardCoulter 24-12-2015 19:53
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http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201512244...#axzz3vGm1q8NM

Looks like Pay TV providers will be wanting to deal with their customers directly as opposed to going through the likes of Virgin Media and Sky etc.

ozsat 26-12-2015 09:36
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It is limited coverage too - I have a 4k tv but BT will not provide 4k services here because their Infinity service here can not support the required speeds.

So we use VirginMedia to supply the UHD streams for Netflix.
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35814053)
Technically it's true because of this part: 'first UK service provider'

But, for the reasons given above, in reality, it's nonsense.

OLD BOY 27-12-2015 12:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35814292)
http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201512244...#axzz3vGm1q8NM

Looks like Pay TV providers will be wanting to deal with their customers directly as opposed to going through the likes of Virgin Media and Sky etc.
Yes, I think the writing is on the wall for TV broadcasting in the future. I have been saying for a while now that Virgin's boxes should give us access to many more video streaming apps such as Amazon or Now TV so that it is a step in front of its competitors. They will need to find a clever way of monetising these services so that the eventual decline of existing subscription packages will not lead to reducing income.

Perhaps Virgin can come up with some streaming packages of its own. Maybe it could also come up with its own streaming stick, extending its TV reach outside of its existing network boundaries.

There is further discussion on the linear channels thread, just to avoid duplication.

passingbat 27-12-2015 22:03
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Although it's the US Fire TV, not sure if any of you sports fans find this an interesting development?

http://www.aftvnews.com/new-fubotv-a...fire-tv-stick/

theone2k10 27-12-2015 22:32
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All4 now available on firetv.

steveh 28-12-2015 10:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35814566)
All4 now available on firetv.
Maybe only the newer model? Showing as incompatible if I try and deliver it to my first gen Fire TV box.

toady 28-12-2015 11:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35814587)
Maybe only the newer model? Showing as incompatible if I try and deliver it to my first gen Fire TV box.
Same here for my first gen box and stick

ozsat 28-12-2015 12:46
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All4 has been there for a longtime - Amazon say I downloaded the app to my 2nd generation Fire TV in October 2013.

But is it not available on the Ultra HD model or the original stick I had.
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35814566)
All4 now available on firetv.

passingbat 28-12-2015 13:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35814587)
Maybe only the newer model? Showing as incompatible if I try and deliver it to my first gen Fire TV box.
Quote:
Originally Posted by toady (Post 35814588)
Same here for my first gen box and stick
According to AFTVnews, gen 1 boxes are due for an update in January to make them compatible with gen 2 boxes, apps wise. That should fix the situation re All4.

theone2k10 28-12-2015 14:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35814587)
Maybe only the newer model? Showing as incompatible if I try and deliver it to my first gen Fire TV box.
This was my bad that'll teach me to post when drunk lol, i just double checked it did let me download it but it was to my tablet not firetv, i wondered why it wasn't on my box this morning, i shall now go hang my head in shame lol :dunce:

Horizon 28-12-2015 21:15
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Amazon have added more than 3 million customers to its Prime service in just one week of December. How long this is sustainable, who knows, but broadcast channels must be looking at these figures with nervous eyes:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....cle&ID=2125057

Dash: CF noob 28-12-2015 22:23
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Is that payers or free trialists?, many will probably cancel after first free month.

Chad 28-12-2015 23:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35814652)
Amazon have added more than 3 million customers to its Prime service in just one week of December. How long this is sustainable, who knows, but broadcast channels must be looking at these figures with nervous eyes:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....cle&ID=2125057
Interested to hear how many people legitimately signed up for Prime. The *******s took £79 out of my bank 3 days before Christmas claiming I'd upgraded my Amazon Instant account to Prime. Liars, I did no such thing.

OLD BOY 29-12-2015 09:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35814662)
Interested to hear how many people legitimately signed up for Prime. The *******s took £79 out of my bank 3 days before Christmas claiming I'd upgraded my Amazon Instant account to Prime. Liars, I did no such thing.
Did you sign up for the free trial? A lot of people got caught out with that because they didn't realise that if they failed to cancel it by the end of the period, they would get signed up for the year automatically.

Frankly, I think it's good value. People may baulk at getting a £79 bill, but this is for a year's subscription and works out just a touch cheaper than Netflix. However, it also entitles you to free postage on goods ordered from Amazon at any price.

I am not disappointed, and I watch it either directly from my smart TV or through my Roku.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35814652)
Amazon have added more than 3 million customers to its Prime service in just one week of December. How long this is sustainable, who knows, but broadcast channels must be looking at these figures with nervous eyes:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....cle&ID=2125057
Absolutely, Horizon, although there will be some who continue to doubt the way this is going and will continue to do so until it hits them in the face.

toady 29-12-2015 11:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35814662)
Interested to hear how many people legitimately signed up for Prime.
Me, its a bargin for the free next day delivery, the streaming services are a bonus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35814652)
Amazon have added more than 3 million customers to its Prime service in just one week of December. How long this is sustainable, who knows, but broadcast channels must be looking at these figures with nervous eyes:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....cle&ID=2125057
Guess most signed up for the free next day or 2 day delivery option rather than for the streaming service

Horizon 29-12-2015 11:45
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The press release is not clear. I imagine most signed up for the 30 day free trial of prime, but past evidence suggests that when people sign up for trials, most tend to keep the services.

passingbat 29-12-2015 11:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35814687)
However, it also entitles you to free postage on goods ordered from Amazon at any price.

.
Don't forget the free music streaming service they added a few months ago. That really enhances the value in my view. And also the kindle book lending.

harry_hitch 29-12-2015 15:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35814652)
Amazon have added more than 3 million customers to its Prime service in just one week of December. How long this is sustainable, who knows, but broadcast channels must be looking at these figures with nervous eyes:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....cle&ID=2125057
Am I going insane? Surely the article states that it was 3 million people world wide who joined up, have I misread that? If I have not misread that, 3 million people from the billions on the planet is a pretty low percentage.

Surely it also states that the 3 million new members were added during the third week of December. Is that perhaps due to people wanting a 30 day free trial to have their Xmas pressies delivered quickly?

I can't imagine broadcast channels are worried about the fact 4.5 times more people watched the Man In The High Castle, it could just be more current members watching that series because it looks very good? I am sure a fair few of the new customers watched it too, but I don't see broadcasters becoming nervous over this article.

Forgive me for being cynical, but this seems like Amazon trying to big themselves up because they effectively offered free delivery in time for Christmas. It will be interesting to hear what the figures even out at when the free 30 day trial is over.

Chad 29-12-2015 18:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35814687)
Did you sign up for the free trial? A lot of people got caught out with that because they didn't realise that if they failed to cancel it by the end of the period, they would get signed up for the year automatically.
No none of that. I've had Amazon Instant Video for 14 months at £5.99 per month. This was totally random. I've bought about 6 things in 6 years from Amazon. Not been on the site recently tinkering with anything. They didn't argue or dispute the point. They acknowledged an auto renew setting had been changed at some point and refunded my miney within 48 hours. They didn't take the blame.

denphone 05-01-2016 15:15
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DreamWorks Animation Expands Netflix Pact.

http://variety.com/2016/biz/news/dre...ix-1201672250/

denphone 07-01-2016 08:45
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Netflix announces it will launch in 130 more countries.

http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...orth-korea-ces

theone2k10 07-01-2016 12:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35815971)
Netflix announces it will launch in 130 more countries.

http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...orth-korea-ces
It has now launched in 130 countries, unotelly will be busy over the next few days lol.

Horizon 08-01-2016 12:40
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I was watching CNBC last night and it was said on there that Time Warner is considering launching its own streaming service to compete with Netflix globally, possibly a version of HBO.

passingbat 08-01-2016 13:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35816247)
I was watching CNBC last night and it was said on there that Time Warner is considering launching its own streaming service to compete with Netflix globally, possibly a version of HBO.
Given that Sky have an excusive contract for HBO content until 2020, it would need to work something out with Sky for HBO content. Not beyond the realms of possibility in my view.

zantarous 08-01-2016 19:20
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Time Warner has a lot of content, plus they can do the same as Netflix, if they don't have the rights in a particular country they just won't make it available. They also have a huge back catalogue and any service they are planning will take a few years to plan and rollout so you can imagine by the time it comes to the UK 2020 probably won't be that far away anyway.

It is nice to hear potential streaming services providers are thinking global rather then just single market. But I think any single provider will have a up hill battle against Netflix who show content from anyone willing to do business with them. A Time Warner service would be just shows and movies from their stables and I bet you would still have TV shows being available in the US first.

Netflix have done a lot right and I don't think the old guard are ready to start thinking in global terms just yet.

muppetman11 08-01-2016 22:03
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BBC Iplayers most requested over Christmas , looking at that list no wonder I rarely watch the BBC.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/eastend...ver-christmas/


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