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tdadyslexia 28-03-2013 16:36

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My Graph

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/08/4.png

thenry 01-04-2013 14:44

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mine..

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Qtx 01-04-2013 16:00

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Ewww!

GuestUK 02-04-2013 13:59

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Not looking too good here!

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Sephiroth 02-04-2013 15:53

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35555241)

I'm tempted to suggest that if you find a differenrt wireless solution than the SH itself, those perturbations and ramping will go away.

But you know this and may be waiting for other things to happen that might alleviate the problem.

Kushan 02-04-2013 16:03

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Originally Posted by GuestUK (Post 35555599)
Not looking too good here!

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Looks fine.

craigj2k12 02-04-2013 16:08

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Hallelujah its REINing men

thenry 02-04-2013 16:38

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35555694)
I'm tempted to suggest that if you find a differenrt wireless solution than the SH itself, those perturbations and ramping will go away.

But you know this and may be waiting for other things to happen that might alleviate the problem.

correct. its starting to get worse...

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...02-04-2013.png

djstevie 02-04-2013 17:05

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Originally Posted by GuestUK (Post 35555599)
Not looking too good here!

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That is one of the worst graphs i have ever seen. Shocking!!:td:

Qtx 02-04-2013 17:27

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Originally Posted by GuestUK (Post 35555599)
Not looking too good here!

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How do you get packetloss like that without the maximum latency increasing? Is it something to be with it being intermittent on and off over the course of every few seconds? :confused:

Looks the the start of a horror b-movie!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35555694)
I'm tempted to suggest that if you find a differenrt wireless solution than the SH itself, those perturbations and ramping will go away.

But you know this and may be waiting for other things to happen that might alleviate the problem.

If memory serves correctly, they are finally due to fix the Croydon network this month which would cover thenry's area too. One could possibly assume that is a nod to those in the know about this. I left VM 4 months ago now, after waiting 7 months for them to fix my connection and then them telling me the new fix date was April 2013.

If those assumptions are correct, about time. The hardware must have been limping along like a lame one eyed dog just waiting to be put out of its misery.

Don't get what you are saying about the superhub though, unless more channels being added is causing problems with overloading the cpu of the hub?

Sephiroth 02-04-2013 18:08

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35555740)
....
If memory serves correctly, they are finally due to fix the Croydon network this month which would cover thenry's area too. One could possibly assume that is a nod to those in the know about this. I left VM 4 months ago now, after waiting 7 months for them to fix my connection and then them telling me the new fix date was April 2013.

If those assumptions are correct, about time. The hardware must have been limping along like a lame one eyed dog just waiting to be put out of its misery.

Don't get what you are saying about the superhub though, unless more channels being added is causing problems with overloading the cpu of the hub?

TH ran some experiments and Ravenstar on the VM forum built on what TH had offered. Raven's experiments were well structured and it was possible to conclude that when wireless was ON (whether or not used) the ramping effect occurred; when wireless was OFF there was no ramping. We deduced (with no absolute proof) that the hib CPU was struggling, although why doesn't that happen to all SHs?

TH has more pronounced perturbations than Raven and that might be down to Croydon - I don't know.

thenry 02-04-2013 18:13

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I can't vouch for Ravens experience. it happened here with or without wifi enabled. being in combo mode caused problems. modem mode was steady.

Qtx 02-04-2013 18:56

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35555768)
TH ran some experiments and Ravenstar on the VM forum built on what TH had offered. Raven's experiments were well structured and it was possible to conclude that when wireless was ON (whether or not used) the ramping effect occurred; when wireless was OFF there was no ramping. We deduced (with no absolute proof) that the hib CPU was struggling, although why doesn't that happen to all SHs?

TH has more pronounced perturbations than Raven and that might be down to Croydon - I don't know.

Cheers, nice to know about these kinds of tests.

I would have thought that ping replies were so basic and low level that cpu load wouldn't affect them (or the silly low amount of ram) but im far from an expert in this area and have no idea how it actually works. Just did a quick google to see what chipset and if a single chip is used for all the functions but didn't find anything enlightening, except for a possibly too simple to be true way of bypassing the shubs security.

If ping replies are not dealt with by the chips own routines and is affected by firmware, that could be another avenue. But if its just a few people its unlikely unless something in that area creates a condition that brings it to light.

Interesting to say the least. If work on that area of the network is due or happening, it would be a simpler answer :D

GuestUK 02-04-2013 19:46

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35555740)
How do you get packetloss like that without the maximum latency increasing? Is it something to be with it being intermittent on and off over the course of every few seconds? :confused:

Looks the the start of a horror b-movie!

That's exactly what I thought (with regards to all the blood!)

As for the traffic, it's really odd. Either a packet gets through perfectly fine, or it doesn't get through at all, there is no inbetween! As of 6pm, the blood all suddenly completely vanished. Hoping it stays like that, but a mystery as to what caused it!

Qtx 02-04-2013 20:21

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Originally Posted by GuestUK (Post 35555863)
As for the traffic, it's really odd. Either a packet gets through perfectly fine, or it doesn't get through at all, there is no inbetween! As of 6pm, the blood all suddenly completely vanished. Hoping it stays like that, but a mystery as to what caused it!

Could make a guess that the gateway was confused and thought it was overloaded when it wasn't, causing it to drop icmp echo packets. Only scenario that comes to mind that would part explain it.

Fingers crossed it stays working :tu:


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