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Kursk 11-07-2022 17:38

Re: Updated: Jacob Rees-Mogg
 
At last, a proper candidate.

OLD BOY 11-07-2022 19:34

Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36127874)
I really hope it doesn’t boil down to whether someone campaigned to leave or remain. The Tories can’t reasonably expect the country to move on if even they can’t!

The reason Brexiteers don’t want a remainer is because they don’t believe that remainers have a clue as to how to implement Brexit.The job is only partially done. We may be out, but the advantages of Brexit have not really been exploited at all.

Having said that, Liz Truss was a remainer and she threw herself into getting the continuation trade deals sorted in the first year, which was commendable. But she appears to be an exception.

This is now becoming urgent. Covid has delayed implementation and we now need a PM to prioritise this over everything. Our economy depends on it.

daveeb 11-07-2022 19:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36127957)
The reason Brexiteers don’t want a remainer is because they don’t believe that remainers have a clue as to how to implement Brexit.The job is only partially done. We may be out, but the advantages of Brexit have not really been exploited at all.

Having said that, Liz Truss was a remainer and she threw herself into getting the continuation trade deals sorted in the first year, which was commendable. But she appears to be an exception.

This is now becoming urgent. Covid has delayed implementation and we now need a PM to prioritise this over everything. Our economy depends on it.


:rolleyes: In the same way you'd never be able to exploit a chocolate fireguard in front of a roaring fire.

Sephiroth 11-07-2022 20:01

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36127958)
:rolleyes: In the same way you'd never be able to exploit a chocolate fireguard in front of a roaring fire.

That's a silly thing to say. OB is right and it just needs doing.

Mick 11-07-2022 20:02

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BREAKING: Sir Graham Brady is providing an update following a meeting of the 1922 Committee on the rules of the upcoming Conservative leadership election.

He says: "Nominations will open and close tomorrow, we will have a first ballot on Wednesday and a second ballot is likely on Thursday.

"We expect 20 supporters for each candidate... we'll also expect that on the first ballot any candidate to proceed must have won at least 30 votes from parliamentary colleagues."
Sir Graham adds the '22 is trying to find a "balance" in which the parliamentary proceedings are completed "reasonably quickly before the summer recess but we do believe we can have that proper discussion within the party."

He says the Conservative Party will get down to the final two candidates "as quickly as that happens".

Sir Graham says it is possible this could happen by Monday.

"I would hope that we would do it relatively quickly," he says. "We will have the first two ballots this week."

Sir Graham adds we should have a new prime minister by 5 September. -Sky News.

Damien 11-07-2022 20:03

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Always the chance they get down to 2 and the remaining candidate drops out, ala 2017, to speed things up.

jfman 11-07-2022 20:06

Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36127957)
The reason Brexiteers don’t want a remainer is because they don’t believe that remainers have a clue as to how to implement Brexit.The job is only partially done. We may be out, but the advantages of Brexit have not really been exploited at all.

I thought this was one of BJ’s three success stories?

Quote:

Having said that, Liz Truss was a remainer and she threw herself into getting the continuation trade deals sorted in the first year, which was commendable. But she appears to be an exception.

This is now becoming urgent. Covid has delayed implementation and we now need a PM to prioritise this over everything. Our economy depends on it.
Our economy depends on having someone competent (probably ruling out them all). How they campaigned in a referendum six years ago is irrelevant - they work within the frameworks in front of them.

1andrew1 11-07-2022 20:14

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36127963)
I thought this was one of BJ’s three success stories?

Please keep up!

He had many successes: not increasing taxes, not caving into Labour's windfall tax on the utilities, building 40 new hospitals, maintaining the triple pensions lock...:D

jfman 11-07-2022 20:18

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36127964)
Please keep up!

He had many successes: not increasing taxes, not caving into Labour's windfall tax on the utilities, building 40 new hospitals, maintaining the triple pensions lock...:D

He himself credits greed and capitalism for the vaccine rollout suggesting he doesn’t consider the state a significant factor. Which only really leaves throwing billions at NATO’s conscript army in the disputed parts of Ukraine.

1andrew1 11-07-2022 20:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36127959)
That's a silly thing to say. OB is right and it just needs doing.

There's a good reason that no one has been able to find these Brexit benefits. And it's not the war in Ukraine or whatever the latest excuse might be.

As I understand it, the candidates are focusing on tax cuts and culture wars. Though whether our current debt levels can take a further bashing remains to be seen.

Mick 11-07-2022 20:20

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BREAKING: Three Tory Leader Candidates have already reached 20 MP nominations threshold:

Rishi Sunak
Penny Mordaunt
Tom Tugendhat

Currently 70 Tory MPs yet to declare who they are backing.

papa smurf 11-07-2022 21:42

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So they upped the nominations from 8 to 20 knowing full well who had enough votes, this whole process stinks from the get go.

There's no chance of a wild card candidate making it to the first round.

Mr K 11-07-2022 21:51

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36127967)
BREAKING: Three Tory Leader Candidates have already reached 20 MP nominations threshold:

Rishi Sunak
Penny Mordaunt
Tom Tugendhat

Currently 70 Tory MPs yet to declare who they are backing.

How terribly exciting it all is. :zzz:

Maybe the electorate should decide who runs the country not a few easily bribed MPs. Democracy in action , UK style.....

Sephiroth 11-07-2022 21:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36127971)
So they upped the nominations from 8 to 20 knowing full well who had enough votes, this whole process stinks from the get go.

There's no chance of a wild card candidate making it to the first round.

Who's a wild card candidate in your eyes, Papa?

papa smurf 11-07-2022 22:07

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36127974)
Who's a wild card candidate in your eyes, Papa?

Someone could pop up tomorrow sometimes the outsider wins after a weak start, personally i think quite a few of them are dreamers, if Sunak wins I'm finished with the party.


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