Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36127901)

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36127905)

I think a lot of people voted for Boris. He was a character and someone you may like to go to the pub with. Those coming in are just typical politicos, none really stand out either in ability or personality. Those that have some personality probably lack ability and the ones who may be able are a bit grey. Maybe Boris' real family was Beeblebrox.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36127904)

Recent elections and opinion polls suggest otherwise. The red wall has evaporated and a yellow one is appearing down south. Even Wokingham is looking marginal ;)

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36127904)

Recent elections and opinion polls suggest otherwise. The red wall has evaporated and a yellow one is appearing down south. Even Wokingham is looking marginal ;)

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36127914)

BREAKING: ITV will hold a live television debate with the Conservative leadership candidates next Sunday at 7pm. The debate will take place at ITV's White City studios. - Peston.

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It’s nothing like that at all, Tory voters remained at home. That’s how they won. By-elections prove Jack shit, given historical events, specifically Thatcher era, showed Tories won landslide despite losing several by-elections mid term.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127918)

The Tories do seem to think the next election is in the bag whatever they do.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127921)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...eadership-bid/

Rees-Mogg to enter? Presumably on a policy to reintroduce chimney sweeps

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36127922)

Good i could use one

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36127928)

I have a good one but he's based in Falmouth so no good for you sorry.

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36127832)

Are any of the candidates actually Conservative?

Or are they all wannabe blairs.

Pretty obvious that any candidate that retains pro leave, controlled immigration stance ( on which the tories were elected ) is going to be mercilessly attacked by the usual sections of the MSM.

The tories need to realise that unless they get something out of the next GE they face political oblivion forever.

As is most likely, a lib-lab pact will continue as it has already started bringing even more gimmegrants, votes for 16 year olds and no holds on green taxes which are crippling the economy.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127888)

Then why do you think the candidates are appealing to the membership with tax cuts and culture war issues as their focus rather than Brexit? All of them will say they support Brexit now it's done. None of them would dare try to reverse it or they'll be turfed out by their own party ASAP.

If Boris Johnson was the victim of a Remoaner plot then why were two of his biggest detractors in getting him out key figures of the Leave campaigns? Dominic Cummings and Steve Baker. If Remoaners were so powerful in the Tory Party they would have deposed Johnson long ago. He went because of his own incompetence.

As for me talking with a forked tongue then why would I? I am not involved in the Tory Party, I have no incentive to lie about what I think their internal fights are about. Believe it or not, people who supported Remain are not all in a secret club where we do our plotting.

I wanted Remain, we lost, I would vote to Remain again but it's not my obsession now.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127921)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...eadership-bid/

Rees-Mogg to enter? Presumably on a policy to reintroduce chimney sweeps

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36127931)

Only way that pact will happen imo is with a proper system of proportional representation coming in with it, which suits me fine, no more minority governments dragging the country down with agendas or ideology.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36127931)

But there must be a secret conspiracy to thwart it, how else can the complete car crash be explained otherwise.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36127931)

He's the answer to a question no one asked, bozo really did a good job of stuffing that cabinet with no marks, light weights and z listers and why, so they'd be loyal to him because everyone else would think them unemployable and unfit for government and even they still turned on him in the end :rofl: