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popper 15-04-2008 21:13
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TehTech (Post 34529532)
DOes anyone know when there will be an online video of the event please as I am anxious to find out what really happened

as are we all.....
(for the benefit of Mick incase he missed it)

what we know is Alexander couldnt do a video obviously, he may have took the campus video kit anyways and had someone run it, so there might be footage there.

there was apparently, some professional video footage aranged by Simon Davies and he said its unedited and will be put up asap, that might mean tonight if they really are unedited , depends on the format i suppose, and thats aside from the TV crews filming, we might see or not on C4 news sometime inthe next 3 days (that seems to be the turn around point for most news24 type footage unless it high profile...)

and i assume BBC TV video perhaps if they were there also...

amateria 15-04-2008 21:15
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravenheart (Post 34529544)
I have read through the post you made Dev, regarding the EU statement several times, and although i have no legal experience whatsoever, I'd day that that reads that Phorm is illegal in the EU under the articles outlined.
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I'm not sure what this document is, but it looks as though the Commissioner is saying that if the UK does not have a law that guarantees citizens' freedom from interception, the the UK government is in breach of EU law.

So if what "Andrew" at the Home Office is saying is true, then the government is breaking EU law.

So, either the Home Office has to admit that BT broke the law, or it has to admit that by failing to make BT's conduct illegal, the government had broken the law.

---------- Post added at 21:15 ---------- Previous post was at 21:14 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by dav (Post 34529554)
Apparently it's from this lady...http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barro...g/index_en.htm
and appears to be from an email. Until there is an external, verified source it's too good to be true (sorry Oar Wellin, have to be careful when quoting on t'internet. Sure you understand)

EDIT...Of course, huge thanks to Alexander. Stirling effort, that man. Above and beyond.
Sadly, then, we can't quote it as something the Commissioner definitely said?

Pasanonic 15-04-2008 21:16
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by popper (Post 34529556)
as are we all.....
(for the benefit of Mick incase he missed it)

what we know is Alexander couldnt do a video obviously, he may have took the campus video kit anyways and had someone run it, so there might be footage there.

there was apparently, some professional video footage aranged by Simon Davies and he said its unedited and will be put up asap, that might mean tonight if they really are unedited , depends on the format i suppose, and thats aside from the TV crews filming, we might see or not on C4 news sometime inthe next 3 days (that seems to be the turn around point for most news24 type footage unless it high profile...)

and i assume BBC TV video perhaps if they were there also...
This too is my understanding given Simon's comments and would be happy to receive any such video and re-encode it to place on my somewhat unused youtube page.

lucevans 15-04-2008 21:17
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
It'll be interesting to see how Phorm's share price reacts to tonight's events tomorrow morning (I notice it was unchanged today).

Pasanonic 15-04-2008 21:20
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucevans (Post 34529566)
It'll be interesting to see how Phorm's share price reacts to tonight's events tomorrow morning (I notice it was unchanged today).

Does anyone know when the transcript or video will be available?
best I have is from 80/20 thinking home page

Quote:
The Phorm system: a Town Hall dialogue and briefing

Tuesday April 15th, 18.30-20.30

The Lecture Theatre, Brunei Gallery, School of Oriental & African Studies

University of London, Thornhaugh Street, Russell Square, WC1H 0XG



Please note: we have arranged for this meeting to be professionally filmed. The entire event will be placed unedited on the Web shortly. If you are concerned about being filmed, please let a member of the organising team know in advance. It is also likely that a national TV news programme will also be present.
http://www.8020thinking.com/

Hank 15-04-2008 21:20
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
:clap: :clap:

Alex & Clayton - Absolutely superb performance. Wonderful.

That AND the EU info tonight, we might be getting somewhere to stop this. It's soooo wrong. (Might be, might!)

:clap: :clap:

For Alex: (_)>

For Clayton: (_)>

Cobbydaler 15-04-2008 21:21
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dav (Post 34529554)
Apparently it's from this lady...http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barro...g/index_en.htm
and appears to be from an email. Until there is an external, verified source it's too good to be true (sorry Oar Wellin, have to be careful when quoting on t'internet. Sure you understand)

EDIT...Of course, huge thanks to Alexander. Stirling effort, that man. Above and beyond.
More on this directive

Here & here...

Ravenheart 15-04-2008 21:21
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
After reading the reply from Viviane Reding it certainly looks like we'd get more support from the European parliament than our own. I'm sure the European courts wouldn't have as much reluctance to get BT in the dock over the illegal 121 media and Phorm trials.

It's a pity this info didn't arrive before the meeting, as I'm sure that it has huge potential in defeating Phorm.

popper 15-04-2008 21:22
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
theres also the potential if there are any laptops etc and wireless connections going in the bars, we might see some chat surface here or elsewere soon...

so much for the live video stream request, i should have known it wouldnt happen.

after all you need a wirelessly connected laptop, a connected cam pointing in the right direction, and a free copy of VLC set in streaming server mode from the wizard menu, in the room.....

and pointing to a web server somewere or run your own on the laptop and have a few people re-stream it from their better connected end points, real rock science
Doh.:shocked::fit::bsmack:

Hank 15-04-2008 21:23
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravenheart (Post 34529574)
After reading the reply from Viviane Reding it certainly looks like we'd get more support from the European parliament than our own. I'm sure the European courts wouldn't have as much reluctance to get BT in the dock over the illegal 121 media and Phorm trials.
- So how do we make that happen?

Cobbydaler 15-04-2008 21:27
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by popper (Post 34529575)
theres also the potential if there are any laptops etc and wireless connections going in the bars, we might see some chat surface here or elsewere soon...

so much for the live video stream request, i should have known it wouldnt happen.

after all you need a wirelessly connected laptop, a connected cam pointing in the right direction, and a free copy of VLC set in streaming server mode from the wizard menu, in the room.....

and pointing to a web server somewere or run your own on the laptop and have a few people re-stream it from their better connected end points, real rock science
Doh.:shocked::fit::bsmack:
I know Phorm may be treating us as Neanderthals living in the Stone Age, blinding us with pseudo techno-science, but shouldn't that be rocket? ;)

popper 15-04-2008 21:29
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Nope, rocket science needs some real thought, Rock science needs none...

not my bad typeing this time ;) (Ok so i missed the s out on need ;) )

OF1975 15-04-2008 21:31
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by popper (Post 34529585)
Nope, rocket science needs some real thought, Rock science need none...

not my bad typeing this time ;)
Hey now, behave. One of my cousins got his PHD in Geology :D

Cobbydaler 15-04-2008 21:32
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by popper (Post 34529585)
Nope, rocket science needs some real thought, Rock science needs none...

not my bad typeing this time ;) (Ok so i missed the s out on need ;) )
Tell that to a Geologist! ;)

p.s. I only did A Level...

dav 15-04-2008 21:32
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Just posted back on the NG asking for the OPs source.
No reason to distrust, but can't hurt to verify.


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