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GrimUpNorth 14-06-2019 10:34

Re: Brexit
 
The official instructions say vote for (however many) candidate(s), but plenty of people come to the station and ask which box they tick for a particular party or even particular leader.

papa smurf 14-06-2019 10:53

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The official instructions say vote for (however many) candidate(s), but plenty of people come to the station and ask which box they tick for a particular party or even particular leader.

They don't need to ask anymore as there's a big arrow pointing to the correct box

Maggy 14-06-2019 11:38

Re: Brexit
 
For a party that so wants to leave the EU that logo is rather concerning.Surely the arrow should face the other way?

papa smurf 14-06-2019 11:51

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For a party that so wants to leave the EU that logo is rather concerning.Surely the arrow should face the other way?

Really

papa smurf 14-06-2019 11:51

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Maggy 14-06-2019 12:45

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Well I am thinking geographically..After all the EU is in the direction of those arrows. ;)

nomadking 14-06-2019 12:52

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35999123)
How do you account for Frances poor working practices as you call it giving them a higher productivity than the UK, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden etc. - https://tradingeconomics.com/country...ntinent=europe

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Productivity growth is frequently lauded by the business community, media commentators and politicians as the solution to improving living standards, yet there is little agreement on what productivity actually is.
IE Meaningless figures. If you produce things with a high value/price, then you appear productive.

Why is Macron trying to increase French working hours?
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In summary, they accuse the former Rothschild merchant banker of being
a “friend of the rich” who wants to break down hard-won workers’ rights,
essentially turning France into another Britain or America. Rather than
what exists in France now: a 35-hour working week; lots of days off,
including the whole of August; and numerous other perks for workers, the
head of state is more interested in an Anglo-Saxon type workforce – one
that is more ambitious, profit-led, and industrious.

French companies do very well globally, but the domestic economy is
notoriously sluggish
, with employees enjoying high levels of protection no
matter what their performances.
How much of "do very well globally" is from owning foreign companies, ie non-French workers?

papa smurf 14-06-2019 12:57

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Well I am thinking geographically..After all the EU is in the direction of those arrows. ;)

I've sorted it

TheDaddy 14-06-2019 13:34

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35999099)
You vote for a candidate first, the party is secondary. He should go for a by-election anyway, He'd win on account of the other 2 parties are a shambles.

Not when the bloke has had more parties than bozo has had mistresses you don't, the man has zero credibility imo but since when has that bothered a politician

jonbxx 14-06-2019 15:42

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35999142)
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IE Meaningless figures. If you produce things with a high value/price, then you appear productive.

Why is Macron trying to increase French working hours?
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How much of "do very well globally" is from owning foreign companies, ie non-French workers?

Absolutely, it will always depend on how you measure productivity but to brand the figures meaningless is a leap. The figures should be regarded with certain caveats.

There is some more data here - https://data.oecd.org/lprdty/gdp-per...ndicator-chart with a number of different productivity indicators and each time, France is doing fairly well and certainly better than the UK. Is this because of or despite French labour laws is open to debate. Macron clearly thinks that it is despite, hence the will to go towards a more anglo-saxon approach

nomadking 14-06-2019 16:10

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35999151)
Absolutely, it will always depend on how you measure productivity but to brand the figures meaningless is a leap. The figures should be regarded with certain caveats.

There is some more data here - https://data.oecd.org/lprdty/gdp-per...ndicator-chart with a number of different productivity indicators and each time, France is doing fairly well and certainly better than the UK. Is this because of or despite French labour laws is open to debate. Macron clearly thinks that it is despite, hence the will to go towards a more anglo-saxon approach

It's still only measuring GDP, not how many widgets they produce an hour. It that sense it is meaningless. Where the GDP has come from French investments elsewhere, eg the UK, then that GDP has been generated by the foreign workforce.

Sephiroth 14-06-2019 16:34

Re: Brexit
 
We should leave the EU with no deal. Stuff a trade deal if the want tocharge 39 billion. Simply sod them. Give their citizens here full rights.

Use the money to help Dyson set up an electric car plant in Bridgend and deal with the carbon free matter at the same time.

Not difficult and not a disaster.

Maggy 14-06-2019 16:40

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35999143)
I've sorted it

No they need one pointing to the US.;) Mind yours is an excellent metaphor for how we haven't a clue where we are going.

papa smurf 14-06-2019 17:00

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35999162)
No they need one pointing to the US.;) Mind yours is an excellent metaphor for how we haven't a clue where we are going.

It's all about the journey not the destination ;)

Chris 14-06-2019 17:00

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35999160)
We should leave the EU with no deal. Stuff a trade deal if the want tocharge 39 billion. Simply sod them. Give their citizens here full rights.

Use the money to help Dyson set up an electric car plant in Bridgend and deal with the carbon free matter at the same time.

Not difficult and not a disaster.

A Dyson electric car would be made entirely of garish plastic and be joy to use for about 12 months before developing a niggling, intermittent fault that stops you using it more than 10 minutes a day. And it would cost twice as much as another electric car built by just about anyone else, that does the same job just as well.


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