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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36046257)

Is Brexit still going on? Well there's a surprise. Thought it was all straightforward, and deals with other countries easy peasy. Even the Brexiteers are now dissing the deal they all voted for. Reality is a cruel mistress.

Negotiations about the new trade deal were always going to be testy. I don't hear any government ministers saying this is difficult. The EU is just doing its usual '11th hour' thing.

I don't see many Brexiteers dissing the deal!

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046312)

You can replace testy with whiffy in the UK, Japan deal.... :)

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36046264)

Don't count me in that statement Mr K, I got what I wanted 100% - out of the EU :Yes:

Except for viewers in Northern Ireland. ;)

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-new-zealands/

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UK not 'match fit' for post-Brexit trade talks, claims New Zealand's deputy prime minister
Britain attempting multiple Brexit trade deals at once is like a cricketer who hasn't played in 30 years attempting to win the Ashes, New Zealand's deputy prime minister said on Wednesday.

New Zealand has blamed Britain for slow progress towards a free trade deal and accused it of not being "match fit" for international negotiations.

Not match fit ??

Tell us something we don't know !

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36046443)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-new-zealands/

Not match fit ??

Tell us something we don't know !

Are we trading in sheep with NZ.....:D

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36046573)

Are we trading in sheep with NZ.....:D

Shhhhhhhhhh, we've had New Zealand lamb for years, don't let the EU know though.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36046591)

Shhhhhhhhhh, we've had New Zealand lamb for years, don't let the EU know though.

It's OK - they already know... ;)

https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/trade/fr...ment-overview/

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Partnering with European Union countries represents a huge opportunity for New Zealand exporters, opening up a market with a combined population of half a billion people who consume about 13 per cent of our overall exports.

Two-way trade between New Zealand and the EU (excluding the UK) is worth NZ$18 billion annually.

The EU is New Zealand's largest trading partner with which we do not yet have a free trade agreement.

For 2019, New Zealand annual goods exports to the EU were worth NZ$5.3 billion and services exports are worth NZ$3.7 billion (including the UK).

Our main goods exports to the EU are wine, fruit and meat.

https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/countrie...nited-kingdom/

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Exports to the UK $1.6 billion Top exports: meat, beverages, fruit

NZ already exports more than twice as much to the EU (even if you take the UK figure out) than they do the UK (Goods exports to the EU NZ$5.3 billion minus goods exported to UK NZ$1.6 billion = NZ$3.7 billion)

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

They will still want to protect their trade with the UK and, theoretically at least, the EU now has less buying power without the UK than before. Any leverage there?

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

It looks like the UK and EU agreed to split the 'duty free' allowance (tariff rate quota) for NZ lamb equally between them which reflects the amount of business NZ does with the respective parties.

This however has gone down like a cup of cold sick with NZ farmers - https://farmersweekly.co.nz/section/...sticking-point

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36046607)

The UK should take advantage of this and sew up a trade deal with NZ. I hope that with this now coming into prominence, Truss's department can hire a professional and get this into gear.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36046608)

The UK should take advantage of this and sew up a trade deal with NZ. I hope that with this now coming into prominence, Truss's department can hire a professional and get this into gear.

Truss is too academic and head in the sky to run such a hands-on department. That's part of the problem.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36046605)

They will still want to protect their trade with the UK and, theoretically at least, the EU now has less buying power without the UK than before. Any leverage there?

No leverage at all, only twice the export trade...

Meanwhile....

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36046609)

Truss is too academic and head in the sky to run such a hands-on department. That's part of the problem.

Well, this is Liz Truss's take on the present position on trade deals. She sounds a bit more optimistic than you, Andrew. I wouldn't write her off just yet.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...h-bin-history/

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We are in a series of negotiations with the US, Japan, Australia and New Zealand to strike new free trade agreements and lower tariffs for our exporters. Talks in all four are progressing well.

Round four of US negotiations starts soon, where we’ll talk directly about tariffs. On Japan, we have consensus on the major elements of a deal that will go beyond the agreement the EU has with Japan.

We aim to have agreement in principle by the end of August. Round two of talks with Australia starts in mid-September, and the second round of discussions with New Zealand starts a month later.

These deals are an important step towards accession to the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), which will hitch Britain to one of the world’s fastest-growing parts of the globe.

CPTPP reduces tariffs on 95 per cent of goods between members – but also sets high standards in areas such as digital trade and data.

Membership will help put Britain at the centre of a network of free trade agreements where parties treat each other fairly, play by the rules, and help make us a hub for businesses trading with the rest of the world.

Ultimately, all these agreements will bring down tariffs for our producers. The US deal could boost trade by £15 billion and wipe out almost half a billion pounds of tariffs – benefiting Scotland, the Midlands and the North East the most – helping to level-up our country.

They will also help defend British businesses, including our brilliant whisky producers, against the effects of protectionism by guaranteeing market access in a period where trade barriers across the world are going up.

At a time of rising global insecurity, in an era of creeping protectionism and in the midst of a global pandemic, I firmly believe free and fair trade remains the best way forward for the world and for Britain.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

Asylum seekers to remain in UK from 2021.

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EU negotiators have rejected a British request for a migration pact that would allow the government to return asylum seekers to other European countries.

When the Brexit transition period expires on 31 December, the government will lose the right to transfer refugees and migrants to the EU country in which they arrived, a cornerstone of the European asylum system known as the Dublin regulation.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...asylum-seekers

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36047155)

Asylum seekers to remain in UK from 2021.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...asylum-seekers

It's quite troubling that so many people feel the need to escape from the EU to a better life.