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gadge 24-05-2006 18:35

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
i thought ntl tookover telewest.;)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds29865.html

Bob 24-05-2006 19:11

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
It was reworked so that could keep 50% control of UKTV. Any change in ownership could have meant that the BBC took over full control if they weren't suited to the new partner.

King Of Fools 24-05-2006 19:22

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob
It was reworked so that could keep 50% control of UKTV. Any change in ownership could have meant that the BBC took over full control if they weren't suited to the new partner.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/217/merger-reversal

chienmort 01-06-2006 00:55

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
A few points

MPEG 2 is stable. MPEG 4 is still a bit a bit flakey.

HDCP Problems have been experienced by early Sky adopters.

SKY will be turning off the HD via component at some point.

Only Sky's first production run from Thomson will have component.

What are the connections on the TW PVR and does it suport HDCP?

leics poshie 02-06-2006 21:44

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
I spoke to NTL today and they said in about 1 months time, if it isnt out before my contract runs out i will be going to Sky for my Digital Television

chienmort 03-06-2006 00:36

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
There is a massive shortage of Sky HD boxes because Thomson (who are making the boxes)cannot get or make enough chips. Most people that pre-registered were given installation dates of 22nd or 28th May but most have also been contacted to say that they will not now get an install before the world cup starts.

gadge 03-06-2006 01:34

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chienmort
There is a massive shortage of Sky HD boxes because Thomson (who are making the boxes)cannot get or make enough chips. Most people that pre-registered were given installation dates of 22nd or 28th May but most have also been contacted to say that they will not now get an install before the world cup starts.

plus what ive heard now they are taking bookings for august.the ntl pvr/hd wont be out untill september or maybe jan/febwhat i was told on the phone yesterday but just think three tuners compared to skys two tuners.;)

popper 03-06-2006 02:01

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge
plus what ive heard now they are taking bookings for august.the ntl pvr/hd wont be out untill september or maybe jan/febwhat i was told on the phone yesterday but just think three tuners compared to skys two tuners.;)

well you can always goto a shop and buy 2 sky boxs, then youll have 4.

last time i checked you cant officially buy or even rent any DVB-C card with cam to put your payed for NTL smart-card into and get nice sharp .ts streams straight into your PC, nice option to have.
shame that we cant have it....

Neil 03-06-2006 08:19

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leics poshie
I spoke to NTL today and they said in about 1 months time, if it isnt out before my contract runs out i will be going to Sky for my Digital Television

If you read back through this thread a few pages, you will see that ntl's PVR/HD box isn't coming until "early 2007".

ntl.wotcha 19-06-2006 14:33

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
So given the "early 2007" statement, is it likely they will roll out to all areas simultaneously, or is it likely they will focus on Langley or Bromley networks first ?

In terms of the upgrades needed to the networks, which is most similar to Telewest's ?

Neil 19-06-2006 14:45

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha
So given the "early 2007" statement, is it likely they will roll out to all areas simultaneously, or is it likely they will focus on Langley or Bromley networks first ?

Who knows with ntl?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha
In terms of the upgrades needed to the networks, which is most similar to Telewest's ?

Someone more techie needed! :D

I would guess Langley.

Chris 19-06-2006 14:49

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
I would guess Langley.

I'm sure I read on here a while ago that Telewest's digital network had more in common with C&W than NTL at the time they all started developing it ... which would mean it's more like Bromley.

But I could be wrong. :p:

zaax 19-06-2006 15:10

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
Whats wrong with this list?
SKY HD - working;
DTT - HD working in London;
Telewest HD - working.

Neil 19-06-2006 15:19

Re: [Merged] Where is HD from NTL? When?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zaax
Whats wrong with this list?
SKY HD - working;
DTT - HD working in London;
Telewest HD - working.

Apart from the fact that it doesn;t make a lot of sense? Nothing!

1) Sky HD is up & running with 9 HD channels.

2) ntl HD is non existent.

3)TW HD is 'active', but only in as much as they are showing the BBD & ITV HD preview channels currently, & as soon as they finish there will be very little HD content to watch.

ntl/TW have not signed any deals with Sky to carry their HD channels on Cable, these channels are as follows:

Sky Sports HD (1080i) - a mixture of content from the four standard sports packages with Premiership football, Rugby, and Cricket and probably Ashes) being the core sports and all being native HD-as this channel contains a mix of programmes from 4 other channels, this is why you can't just subscribe to one sports channel and then get Sky Sports HD (note that this also maximises the HD content available to the channel, and remaining time will broadcast content in SD)

Sky Movies 9 HD (1080i) - HD all the time.

Sky Movies 10 HD (1080i) - HD all the time.

Sky One HD (1080i) - simulcast of Sky One with some shows (e.g. 24, Weeds, Las Vegas, Bones, Battlestar Galactica, Rescue Me, Malcolm in the Middle) in HD and the rest in SD.

National Geographic HD (expected to be 1080i) - offering a selection of HD content.

Artsworld HD (expected to be 1080i) - a simulcast channel with a mix of true HD and SD upconverted material.

Discovery HD (expected to be 1080i) - offering a selection of HD content.

BBC HD (1080i) - minimum of 2 hours/day.

Sky Box Office HD (1080i) (two channels).

And coming/expected soon:

SKY have been granted a license for Sky Sports 2 HD that would extend ther coverage and allow two HD programs/sports at the same time.
History HD.

So if you want a guarantee of being able to watch the above channels then you need Sky, if you'd rather wait & take a chance on them arriving on Cable then go for Telewest.

Stuart 19-06-2006 15:27

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Actually, I watched a HD demo in Selfridges A/V department in Oxford Street yesterday. TBH, the only channel that appeared to have a massively better picture than we get now was BBC HD. All the Sky ones looked rather fuzzy. Odd, considering they apparently all came from Satellite.

And, yes, I was watching on good equipment (a top of the range 60inch LG plasma) that was wired in with decent quality conections.


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