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Hugh 10-01-2024 08:37
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Back on topic, please

Pierre 17-01-2024 14:53
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
No troubles for Trump in Iowa.

https://www.ft.com/content/7c0a19fd-...6-35d5bf0d12ea

Admittedly in a weather impacted low turnout, but no indications that he wouldn't have won with a higher turnout.

All the pundits I've listened to have said that it's a done deal that he'll get the nomination, even just off this one result.

jfman 17-01-2024 17:27
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
I certainly think the only way to stop him winning the whole thing is in a courtroom.

Hugh 17-01-2024 18:24
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36168399)
I certainly think the only way to stop him winning the whole thing is in a courtroom.
Even if he loses, it’s unlikely he’ll accept the result…

TheDaddy 17-01-2024 21:22
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36168399)
I certainly think the only way to stop him winning the whole thing is in a courtroom.
I think he'll lose to Biden, the others would win against him

Pierre 17-01-2024 21:44
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36168419)
I think he'll lose to Biden, the others would win against him
Well when you have the whole of the MSM against you, it will be struggle.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...-msnbc-1861186

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Biden is incapable of debating Trump.

So somehow they’ll stop that from happening, or just not have Biden run again.

Damien 17-01-2024 22:03
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
I said before the Republicans seem determined to nominate the one person Biden could beat and the Democrats are determined to stick with the one guy who could lose to Trump.

Neither are at all popular.

They're also both so old. It's just crazy what the United States is doing. Completely unhinged political system.

I still think we brush past the fact that people invaded Congress to try and stop, maybe even harm or kill, those trying to confirm the results of the election. Is this something we see in unstable democracies, not ones like the US. Everyone just sort of moved on. I thought that would be the reality check for them and they would step back.

Pierre 17-01-2024 23:01
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36168422)
I still think we brush past the fact that people invaded Congress to try and stop, maybe even harm or kill, those trying to confirm the results of the election.

Many previous posts in this thread, where I have laid out that, that claim just doesn’t stack up.


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Is this something we see in unstable democracies, not ones like the US. Everyone just sort of moved on. I thought that would be the reality check for them and they would step back.
Countries that try to silence and imprison their political opponents………you mean like the US currently?

pip08456 17-01-2024 23:08
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36168422)
I said before the Republicans seem determined to nominate the one person Biden could beat and the Democrats are determined to stick with the one guy who could lose to Trump.

Neither are at all popular.

They're also both so old. It's just crazy what the United States is doing. Completely unhinged political system.

I still think we brush past the fact that people invaded Congress to try and stop, maybe even harm or kill, those trying to confirm the results of the election. Is this something we see in unstable democracies, not ones like the US. Everyone just sort of moved on. I thought that would be the reality check for them and they would step back.
Trump has publicly stated he will suspend the Constitution and will be a dictator from day one. How unhinged is that?

Pierre 17-01-2024 23:40
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36168432)
Trump has publicly stated he will suspend the Constitution and will be a dictator from day one. How unhinged is that?
Quote? link?

Hugh 17-01-2024 23:46
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36168432)
Trump has publicly stated he will suspend the Constitution and will be a dictator from day one. How unhinged is that?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36168435)
Quote? link?
https://apnews.com/article/social-me...82c0cfa6598444

Quote:
Trump, who announced last month that he is running again for president, made the claim over the weekend on his Truth Social media platform.

“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”
https://apnews.com/article/trump-han...ae7dd7f1235c72

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Trump’s vow to only be a dictator on ‘day one’ follows growing worry over his authoritarian rhetoric

pip08456 18-01-2024 00:10
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Thanks Hugh.

Pierre 18-01-2024 14:25
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36168436)
https://apnews.com/article/social-me...82c0cfa6598444

Doesn't say he'll suspend the constitution, which he couldn't do even if he wanted.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-han...ae7dd7f1235c72
He just said he's going to close the border, and drill (for oil I presume)

I don't know if he can close the border with an executive order, but if he can, then it's just a power any and every president has had.

It is an odd power in the "greatest democracy" in the world that the president can invoke law with the stroke of a pen without consulting either House.

But you could argue any president that has issued an executive order has acted like a dictator, and they all have.

Hugh 18-01-2024 15:49
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36168478)
He just said he's going to close the border, and drill (for oil I presume)

I don't know if he can close the border with an executive order, but if he can, then it's just a power any and every president has had.

It is an odd power in the "greatest democracy" in the world that the president can invoke law with the stroke of a pen without consulting either House.

But you could argue any president that has issued an executive order has acted like a dictator, and they all have.
And what about his statement regarding terminating the Constitution?

Quote:
termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent

1andrew1 18-01-2024 17:29
Re: Trump’s Troubles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36168432)
Trump has publicly stated he will suspend the Constitution and will be a dictator from day one. How unhinged is that?
Totally. And this is from the man who advocates for the right to bear arms on the basis of the Constitution. You couldn't make it up!


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