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denphone 12-03-2020 10:51

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36026984)
Very good point, all you'd really be doing is transferring the 'risk' to another area . . . although most kids would nowadays quite happily stay indoors in front of their PS4 24/7 ;)

Its a great point as perhaps in the next phase we might soon need some type of lockdown like Italy.

Carth 12-03-2020 11:04

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36026986)
Its a great point as perhaps in the next phase we might soon need some type of lockdown like Italy.

an inch of snow would be a blessing, that usually causes complete gridlock in the UK :D

denphone 12-03-2020 11:10

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36026993)
an inch of snow would be a blessing, that usually causes complete gridlock in the UK :D

l doubt we will get any of the white stuff but there is always hope.

Mick 12-03-2020 11:15

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36026976)
All a bit late. We needed to act more quickly, not wait for things to get worse i.e. proactive not reactive.

Reacting too quickly would have been the wrong thing to do...

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Jane Merrick, Policy Editor of the i newspaper:

Later today, the PM will announce the UK is moving from contain to delay, the next phase up, in fighting coronavirus. This will mean more restrictions on movement, more home working, more social distancing. The people who have been saying for days that things need to be shut down now/earlier will be saying "I told you so". BUT, this was always the plan, as advised by @CMO_England - earlier "contain" phase was about smaller, more targeted measures.

The next phase was always going to be about more distancing. The key thing is that the CMO chief scientific adviser, based on the best epidemiological and behavioural science, decided that going too soon on shutdowns would lead to fatigue - people breaking out of quarantine too early right at the time when infection was highest.

This isn't about Boris Johnson being reckless, another Donald Trump not listening to advisers. The PM is acting on the advice of his advisers. We should all listen to the people at the top of this battle, who have access to all of the data and modelling.

nomadking 12-03-2020 11:17

Re: Coronavirus
 
Too many "Contrary Marys", who simply say the opposite, just because, and without thinking everything through.

Maggy 12-03-2020 11:34

Re: Coronavirus
 
Too many keyboard experts.

downquark1 12-03-2020 11:44

Re: Coronavirus
 
What is happening is a careful balancing act between:
1) Saving lives
2) Saving the economy
3) Saving the NHS from being swamped

People are going to argue over how exactly this is done best.

denphone 12-03-2020 11:46

Re: Coronavirus
 
Republic of Ireland closes schools and colleges.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51850811


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Taoiseach (Irish prime minister) Leo Varadkar said the measures would take effect from 18:00 on Thursday to 29 March.

Mick 12-03-2020 11:52

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36027004)
Too many keyboard experts.

Or perhaps those who work in the healthcare sector, like me, who knows what he’s talking about!

Chris 12-03-2020 12:01

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36026976)
All a bit late. We needed to act more quickly, not wait for things to get worse i.e. proactive not reactive.

I’d be interested to learn which professional qualifications and experience you’re resting on in making that assertion. What’s your area of expertise? (Hint: ‘it’s the Tories therefore they’re wrong’ isn’t an area of expertise).

This is the most significant public health emergency we have faced in years. There’s very little space for armchair experts and keyboard warriors here.

Maggy 12-03-2020 12:12

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36027010)
Or perhaps those who work in the healthcare sector, like me, who knows what he’s talking about!

Understood and I wasn't pointing a finger at you. Merely passing an observation about social media in general.:)

Mr K 12-03-2020 12:15

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36027011)
I’d be interested to learn which professional qualifications and experience you’re resting on in making that assertion. What’s your area of expertise? (Hint: ‘it’s the Tories therefore they’re wrong’ isn’t an area of expertise).

This is the most significant public health emergency we have faced in years. There’s very little space for armchair experts and keyboard warriors here.

And what's your expertise? Planning for the worst is not a bad starting point, hopefully it won't be that bad. Even the US has taken more extreme measures than us. We do seem to be reacting to events . However nobody, including the 'experts' know how this is going to pan out. Overeacting is better than undereacting where lives are at stake.

Chris 12-03-2020 12:23

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36027015)
And what's your expertise? Planning for the worst is not a bad starting point, hopefully it won't be that bad. Even the US has taken more extreme measures than us. We do seem to be reacting to events . However nobody, including the 'experts' know how this is going to pan out. Overeacting is better than undereacting where lives are at stake.

I cheerfully accept I have none. But then I’m not the one criticising decisions that are quite obviously being led by science. I’ve been paying close attention to the things our senior public health experts have been saying over the last week and thus far I have seen no evidence of our political leaders taking decisions that are not solidly grounded in what they have been saying.

If you’re going to be critical of the decisions being made, either explain how you are qualified to do so, or else cite the contrary expert opinion you’re resting your claims on.

jonbxx 12-03-2020 12:34

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36026963)
Why would your friend need to reschedule his flights?

Because airlines are not likely to run one way flights from the US to Finland with no passengers flying back the other way.

denphone 12-03-2020 12:36

Re: Coronavirus
 
l a not a fan of this government but that is utterly irrelevant as all of us are in hands of the our senior public health experts and we should trust their expertise as personally l just wish politics could be kept out of a important thread for once.


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