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I guess the increasing likelihood of missing the 29th March deadline affects everyone differently.

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Chris did correctly point out people are essentially so entrenched they see what they want to see. So much is being said, and assumed certain events will happen, that the full range of options are in sight to someone.

Us included.

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We exercised that right just over 2 years ago, since then activists have been trying to overturn it.

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Everyone included for sure, totally agree. But I've dialled into a few web conferences with informed people who over the last 12 months still seem convinced that the final deal will keep us closely aligned to the EU. Insights like that have kept investment coming into companies like Vauxhall and Toyota.

However, as regards the Withdrawal Agreement, I've given up predicting what's going to happen. As you said, about 27 different extensions cited on Twitter earlier but whilst the options have now been officially confirmed, who's to say they won't change?

I'm enjoying the historical drama especially as anything apart from leaving on 29th March with no-deal is an upgrade to my original expectations. Heck, I'm even going to a Brexiter friend's party on the 29th March! I won't gloat too much :)

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We can safely say Theresa May won’t revoke A50 because she hasn’t ruled it out.

She said “should not” as opposed to “must not” or “will not”. If she said “must not” or “will not” I’d have ruled it in.

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That just just an advisory plebiscite.

Electing Parliamentarians has meaningful output. Even representatives at other levels, local councils and devolved assemblies. Real, proper democracy.

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Petition to revoke Article 50 has now sailed past the 2m mark.

Philip Stevens in the FT suggests that MPs should revoke Article 50 and start again to build a national consensus.
May not be easy but has to be better than the current Fawlty Towers approach.

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name "United Kingdom"
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Nick Robinson https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47660019 She doesn’t seemed to have ruled this out, as she states it as an option...

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So EU earlier yesterday, sick of can being kicked down road, as are the other 27 EU Member States, they all agree tonight to kick can further down road.

You couldn't make this shit up from the corrupted and cancerous EU fools.

Wow, so 800,000 signatories are not from UK. Fake Petition then. :)

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They are shitting it from A/No-Deal and B/17.4 Million disgruntled voters voting in the EU Elections.May's deal is a crock of shit so it's still looking like No-Deal as i said it would be at the start of the previous thread :)

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The EU position to attempt to facilitate an extension that suits it was entirely predictable. Time for everyone to wake up to reality. There’s no unicorn.

If we leave we will do so in a manner that suits the EU. A shame we wasted two years really. Could have not participated in negotiations at all and been better off. At least then we’d be credible!

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French President Macron: "The British politicians are incapable to put in place what their people have demanded. Their people voted for Brexit".

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No, there’s something wrong with the counter, as that hasn’t changed in 12 hours - it’s still the same number now

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You also said we would be leaving on the 29th March, so your forecasting level of accuracy is zero at the moment.

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Exactly. If people had been open to understanding that "they need us more than we need them" might just be wishful thinking and that 27 countries are stronger than one country, last night's news would not have come as a surprise.

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English nationalism is going to have to take it’s medicine.

What price to pay? A United Ireland, economic catastrophe or Brexit in name only? The clocks are ticking. We need them more than they need us, and we’ve told them!

21 days, 14 hours and 51 minutes or
61 days, 14 hours and 51 minutes.