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Damien 04-07-2017 06:31

Re: Huge fire at West London tower block
 
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35906098)
As if they are the only one's with a crappy council that doesn't listen they have no right to demand anything but all the evidence be seen and heard. More i hear about some of these "victims" the more i think chancer out for everything they can grab and make out of this situation. Now racial positions are appearing in all this it's just going to get worse to be honest the government is screwed whatever happens and it has sod all to do with justice.

It's not 'victims' in quotes. There are in excess of 79 deaths, they've lost their homes, their relatives and their friends. Putting 'victims' in quotes as if they're not. There is a serious lack of decency and basic humanity on here sometimes.

TheDaddy 04-07-2017 07:04

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35906093)
Hmm, so a "team of black and minority ethnic lawyers" wants "A properly diverse expert panel to sit alongside the inquiry judge". :erm:

Pot, Kettle, Black ... :dozey:

They want a black, woman, brought up on a council estate that happens to be a judge to be in charge, not only is it a pretty stupid request which if reversed (a white, man, from a rich family) would be righteously criticised by all it also ignores the fact that the judge they've got actually got to Cambridge on a scholarship and not because of wealth although it's possible he is rich and smart obviously, the two go hand in hand sometimes.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35906098)
As if they are the only one's with a crappy council that doesn't listen they have no right to demand anything but all the evidence be seen and heard. More i hear about some of these "victims" the more i think chancer out for everything they can grab and make out of this situation. Now racial positions are appearing in all this it's just going to get worse to be honest the government is screwed whatever happens and it has sod all to do with justice.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35906107)
It's not 'victims' in quotes. There are in excess of 79 deaths, they've lost their homes, their relatives and their friends. Putting 'victims' in quotes as if they're not. There is a serious lack of decency and basic humanity on here sometimes.

I tend to agree Damien but let's not forget there's already been one chancer arrested for making out he's a victim, I'd bet his not alone and when they're caught I hope it's a very large and heavy book that's thrown at them, people like him make it easier to dismiss the real victims

moriah 04-07-2017 08:43

Re: Huge fire at West London tower block
 
That was the sad part of this incident. There will be chancer that can pretend they are victims. So, government must be vigilant with that.

Paul 04-07-2017 13:07

Re: Huge fire at West London tower block
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35906107)
It's not 'victims' in quotes. There are in excess of 79 deaths, they've lost their homes, their relatives and their friends. Putting 'victims' in quotes as if they're not. There is a serious lack of decency and basic humanity on here sometimes.

I also think there is over reaction to comments sometimes ;)

Those "demands" do not strike me as coming from families mourning their lost loved ones.

Maggy 04-07-2017 13:18

Re: Huge fire at West London tower block
 
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/issue-1447/news

Kursk 04-07-2017 13:26

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35906133)

A synopsis wouldn't hurt. Tl;dr

RizzyKing 04-07-2017 15:36

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Putting it in quotes wasn't the best way of making the point as clearly there are victims here I'm aware of the death toll but like always there are now a group looking to profit off of this tradegy that were involved but are not real victims of this. We now have the race card as well as the class card being played here by people that are looking to exploit this tradegy for their own selfish ends and are determined to blame everyone and everything in an attempt to feather their own nest.

Osem 04-07-2017 17:17

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The genie is out of the bottle when it comes to choosing those who head up inquiries I think. Just look at the child abuse case. We're now in danger of any group of victims being able to effectively choose those they feel will give the answers they want to hear and refuse to co-operate or even accept the outcome unless it confirms what they've already decided the truth is. It's really very worrying and some legal firms and politicians are definitely stirring things up.

RizzyKing 04-07-2017 18:37

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Things like this become a money pit for the usual suspects and while the real victims may get something it pales compared to the amounts padding the pockets of the professionals and by the time any conclusion is reached its huge bills and mainly forgotten victims.

Maggy 04-07-2017 23:22

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35906136)
A synopsis wouldn't hurt. Tl;dr

It might but I don't have the time besides which it really needs to be perused in full.

richard1960 06-07-2017 08:44

Re: Huge fire at West London tower block
 
Good to see the government have now sent in a taskforce to run some departments in this failing council.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7824256.html

Kursk 06-07-2017 13:19

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35906332)
Good to see the government have now sent in a taskforce to run some departments in this failing council.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7824256.html

Could any Council have truly been prepared to cope with such a tragedy?

nomadking 06-07-2017 13:33

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35906374)
Could any Council have truly been prepared to cope with such a tragedy?

People keep (conveniently) forgetting that those issues were with the council staff which has nothing to do with the councillors. How many of those staff would be union members and Corbyn supporters? The term "5th columnist" springs to mind.

Kursk 06-07-2017 13:41

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35906385)
People keep (conveniently) forgetting that those issues were with the council staff which has nothing to do with the councillors. How many of those staff would be union members and Corbyn supporters? The term "5th columnist" springs to mind.

Indeed. Perhaps too much energy is going into "who's to blame" rather than sorting out the tragic situation for the people involved.

denphone 06-07-2017 13:47

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35906374)
Could any Council have truly been prepared to cope with such a tragedy?

Any council worth its salt should have strong contingency and emergency plans and the vast majority sadly don't.


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