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borrissey 10-04-2013 13:28
I'd pay an extra £1 or 2 on top of HD charge if they got sky sports 3&4 HD and sky news HD.

denphone 10-04-2013 13:31
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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35559363)
I'd pay an extra £1 or 2 on top of HD charge if they got sky sports 3&4 HD and sky news HD.
+Sky Atlantic as well.

Chad 10-04-2013 13:54
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35559355)
Sky have so much money, they can buy whatever TV show they want. So on several occasions, they have come along and 'pinched' successful US dramas that terrestrial channels have taken a chance on for the first couple of seasons and deprived a big chunk of the British TV audience of seeing the following seasons. That is abuse of monetary power in my view.
Is that really SKY's fault?

You’d have thought the people running the various terrestrial TV channels would have learned their lesson by now. Why they let their broadcast deals expire, for their most popular imported shows, seems crazy to me. Terrestrial channels can easily stave off SKY by agreeing longer broadcast deals for shows at the outset or proposing an extended deal way in advance of their current deal expiring. They could at the very least ask for a first refusal clause to be added to their initial deal. If they take ownership of the problem they needn’t worry about SKY.

OLD BOY 10-04-2013 13:57
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35559378)
Is that really SKY's fault?

You’d have thought the people running the various terrestrial TV channels would have learned their lesson by now. Why they let their broadcast deals expire, for their most popular imported shows, seems crazy to me. Terrestrial channels can easily stave off SKY by agreeing longer broadcast deals for shows at the outset or proposing an extended deal way in advance of their current deal expiring. They could at the very least ask for a first refusal clause to be added to their initial deal. If they take ownership of the problem they needn’t worry about SKY.
Yes, of course it is Sky's fault - they don't have to behave like this.

And it is not easy for the terrestrial channels, who do not have Sky's deep pockets. You just can't compete against that and Sky are taking every advantage they can from the situation, ignoring the needs of the general public. I think they are behaving unacceptably.

denphone 10-04-2013 14:04
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35559378)
Is that really SKY's fault?

You’d have thought the people running the various terrestrial TV channels would have learned their lesson by now. Why they let their broadcast deals expire, for their most popular imported shows, seems crazy to me. Terrestrial channels can easily stave off SKY by agreeing longer broadcast deals for shows at the outset or proposing an extended deal way in advance of their current deal expiring. They could at the very least ask for a first refusal clause to be added to their initial deal. If they take ownership of the problem they needn’t worry about SKY.
As usual its the same old loyal subjects who come to Sky's defence.:D;)

borrissey 10-04-2013 14:07
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35559365)
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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35559363)
I'd pay an extra £1 or 2 on top of HD charge if they got sky sports 3&4 HD and sky news HD.
+Sky Atlantic as well.
HD :)

Chad 10-04-2013 14:09
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35559380)
Yes, of course it is Sky's fault - they don't have to behave like this.

And it is not easy for the terrestrial channels, who do not have Sky's deep pockets. You just can't compete against that and Sky are taking every advantage they can from the situation, ignoring the needs of the general public. I think they are behaving unacceptably.
So are you saying that the terrestrial channels can't do anything to stop this from happening at all whatsoever? I totally disagree.

coulsontom 10-04-2013 14:12
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If BBC didn't waste millions on Alan Hansen and Gary Lineker, they'd have more money to spend holding onto TV rights

Wicked_and_Crazy 10-04-2013 14:15
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Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35559358)
That is annoying. I don't watch much American TV myself, but they took Mad Men which we watch.

I'm counting down the days until Homeland is nicked onto Atlantic.

Fortunately we have the basic sky subscription at holiday home so can series link anything on atlantic and watch it when we go.
Therefore you could watch it on sky go

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Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35559391)
If BBC didn't waste millions on Alan Hansen and Gary Lineker, they'd have more money to spend holding onto TV rights
Millions??? Source of info?

Chad 10-04-2013 14:17
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35559384)
As usual its the same old loyal subjects who come to Sky's defence.:D;)
I made this very same point previously on the forum, as a Virgin customer, when SKY snapped up Mad Men and Glee.

I'm amazed how often terrestrial TV drop the ball in terms of TV rights, knowing that SKY are always lingering to pick up the fumble.

mike_gain 10-04-2013 14:20
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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 35559393)
Millions??? Source of info?
This is less than a year old so should be pretty close to what they earn:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...on-pound-stars

coulsontom 10-04-2013 14:23
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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 35559393)
Therefore you could watch it on sky go

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Millions??? Source of info?
Hansen gets £40,000 a show.

Sky Go you have to watch on computer. It is crap quality, not the same as watching on TV.

Dave42 10-04-2013 14:29
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35559396)
I made this very same point previously on the forum, as a Virgin customer, when SKY snapped up Mad Men and Glee.

I'm amazed how often terrestrial TV drop the ball in terms of TV rights, knowing that SKY are always lingering to pick up the fumble.
it all comes down to money Chad mate and terrestrial channels cant compete with sky it that simple and sky know they will always outbid them so it not them dropping the ball it the money

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35559384)
As usual its the same old loyal subjects who come to Sky's defence.:D;)
are you surprised Den sky will never ever do anything wrong in there eyes

denphone 10-04-2013 14:29
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35559396)
I made this very same point previously on the forum, as a Virgin customer, when SKY snapped up Mad Men and Glee.

I'm amazed how often terrestrial TV drop the ball in terms of TV rights, knowing that SKY are always lingering to pick up the fumble.
But you are forgetting that one Sky has a bottomless pit of money and two the rights holders of these series know that in order to make these shows popular they have to go on Terrestial TV first knowing full well when these shows become popular on normal TV they are safe in the knowledge that good old Sky are going to come along and offer them considerably more for these rights once they become popular knowing full well that the terrestrial TV companies can't compete with them on this.

muppetman11 10-04-2013 16:06
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35559402)
But you are forgetting that one Sky has a bottomless pit of money
So do big companies the likes of Apple , Microsoft , Amazon etc does that mean they shouldn't be able to also bid for contracts purely because they're successful and have plenty money.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35559402)
and two the rights holders of these series know that in order to make these shows popular they have to go on Terrestial TV first
Really !!!! I'm sure many first run US series are on channels like Alibi , Watch , Fox , Comedy Central all of which are behind a paywall so to me it seems the money is more the deciding factor for the studios.

Give us your ideal solution to this problem I'm generally interested to hear it.


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