Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35535035)

if there are numerous reports then let's have few links?
like what?

Have you ever tried to downgrade your sky package?

Go onto their website and try and find where says how to do it?

Good luck.


What technological limitations would they be?


That's just it, you don't take a quarters results you take 6 years of results.

Increasing revenues
Decreasing debt
Increasing share price


That is so laughable, that I'm still laughing, and will probably continue laughing for most of the day.

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35535021)

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Virgin were doing average at best. Without being brought out recently, I would have predicted them out of the game in around 2 years.

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35534989)

That is a wild and unsubstantiated claim from someone with no inside knowledge. Making an opinion sound like fact does not make it fact, even if you have a strange infatuated blind love for the company you are making the claims about.

Originally Posted by brynhyfryd (Post 35535187)

The reason that the thinking of leaving us option was so popular was because it was the only way to get through to a UK call centre.

Hopefully Liberty will move all call centre jobs back to the UK as this is my biggest gripe with the company as a whole and I would happily sacrifice higher BB speeds and move to another provider for a UK only call centre if VM continue on their current path.

I also hope LG invest in new tech and expand the current footprint as well as expand their TV offering.

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35535021)

It does indeed help their portfolio but the statement that virgin was doing very well is more than questionable.

The last quarter saw an extremely aggressive retentions department trying to stop customers leaving as if their life depended on it. There are numerous reports of this and lies being told simply to stop customers from leaving. Experienced this first hand too and the lies virgin staff told was shocking. That same last quarter virgin moved the "Thinking of leaving us" option from their phone system and hid it away under "Thinking of moving house". That option had been in their menu system in the same place for years but hiding it away under an option you would not necessarily choose if you just wanted to terminate your connection was in my opinion desperation toi stop more customers leaving.

So tactics like that to make a quarters results look a certain way but the underlying problems are there still. Like the limitations of virgins broadband technology. Even talktalk offers a faster upload speed than virgin and I don't see virgin competing in a cloud environment future due to this. Already they are losing ground here and adding on more traffic management will push customers over to fibre alternatives like BT and Sky which have no traffic management or limits/thresholds or whatever.

The bottom line is taking quarter results as a sign that a company will do well in the future is just plain silly. You have to look at the whole picture. Look at how virgin have been broke and not able to invest in their network properly, look at how they have worded quarterly statements differently between quarters to hide worse figures, look at how the landscape is changing and where virgins weaknesses are.

Virgin were doing average at best. Without being brought out recently, I would have predicted them out of the game in around 2 years.

Even the biggest companies go out of business and up until that point they are trying to convince the world they are ok and doing well ;)

Originally Posted by brynhyfryd (Post 35535187)

The reason that the thinking of leaving us option was so popular was because it was the only way to get through to a UK call centre.

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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35535220)

Look at how virgin have been broke and not able to invest in their network properly, look at how they have worded quarterly statements differently between quarters to hide worse figures, look at how the landscape is changing and where virgins weaknesses are.

When were Virgin broke?? Anyone else remember this? Last I heard someone wants to pay 15 billion for them, that's a lot for a business that's broke.

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35535258)

Ask RBS how their leveraged takeover of ABN AMRO went. A company paying a shedload of borrowed money for another company does make it a financially sound deal by default.

Originally Posted by thunderlips (Post 35535317)

do LG have to pay virgin to use name : virgin media? when they take over ?

Originally Posted by thunderlips (Post 35535317)

do LG have to pay virgin to use name : virgin media? when they take over ?

Originally Posted by |Kippa| (Post 35539425)

VM on the other hand appear to be increasing the connection speeds without seriously upgrading the network and using traffic management to fill the gap.