Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

I will never vote Yes. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. We are far safer together. People seem to think it is between Scotland & England. I have family in England who had to leave Scotland to get work , It is a pity they cannot get the vote. and like me they would vote NO

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1391010987

... because nothing says "FREEDOM!" quite like surrendering your fiscal sovereignty on day one ...

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

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Then again,most unionists support Rangers,would you be so kind to tell me which club you support?

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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

What a moronic statement. Have you really lived in Scotland as long as you claim to have?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Would you like to know whether he prefers jammy dodgers or chocolate digestives too? It's about as relevant.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

63 years and 4 months tae be precise.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

63 years and 4 months of learning nothing except how to make yourself sound like one of Paw Broon's speech bubbles. Still, it at least gives some context for your poor caricatures of the English. Your caricature of a Scotsman is if anything worse.

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Alex Salmonds fantasy ends 18/9/2014

:)

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Not sure if I should post this, it hasn't been leaked to the press yet, but I have obtained an exclusive picture of Alex Salmond after today's speech was made.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Well that sort of thing is what desperate and insecure folks cling onto. It says a lot about them and the paucity of their argument.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

I think the SNP have only made matters harder for themselves. They're promising too much and skeptical Scots aren't going to be won over by hearing that there won't be any problems, that there will be lower taxes, better pensions and better public services. If they were more honest then they would be easier to trust. Instead Salmond is coming across as a dodgy salesman making claims that are too good to be true, because they are.

He also doesn't seem to have great confidence in the Scot's desire to be Independent. A lot of his white paper is based on the idea that things will remain the same, same monarchy, same currency, fee movement back and forth and so on. If the Scottish want these things they can already have them, it's called the United Kingdom.

Their whole prospectus for Independence simply reads like a particularly disingenuous manifesto for a General Election rather than a vision for a new country.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

That's the whole idea. He knows the Scottish electorate won't go for what his activists really want - not now, not ever - so he's trying to sell separation by making it fluffy and friendly and really no different to the way things are now, except without nasty Westminster.

Had the Eurozone not blown up he might even have got away with it. Unfortunately for him, just across the channel we have a real, live example of what happens when economies that share a common currency without common fiscal control get out of kilter. He cant sell Scotland independence based on the Euro, because brand Euro is badly tainted. And, irony of ironies, he can't sell independence based on a Sterling zone because, again, of the Euro.

The refrain we will hear Better Together repeat endlessly between now and September is this:

"In short, a durable, successful currency union requires some ceding of national sovereignty." - Mr M. Carney, Governor, Bank of England.

Any independence built on a shared currency with England is not really independence at all. So why vote for it? If we're going to keep the currency, we might as well keep our influence over the way it is run.

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

If the land of my birth gains independence in September, will the Orkneys and the Shetlands go back to Norway?

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

Their constitutional position is slightly muddier than the seps would like to admit. They were, IIRC, eventually ceded directly to the Crown as a possession, giving them a status unlike the mainland or the Western Isles. Their law has for many years now been accepted to be under the jurisdiction of the Scottish courts, but if they vote clearly and decisively negative in the referendum, I really wouldn't put it past the local authority up there to try to open negotiations to remain in the UK.

I would personally love to hear Eck forced to explain why Shetland should not have independence from a remote Government it has little influence over or stake in. :D