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Derek 09-08-2011 00:23
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
Birmingham - Police stations on fire.
Liverpool - Rioting
London - Gone all to hell.

Other cities on a knife edge. Its gonna get worse before it gets better. Looks like my shifts and days off aren't safe for the next week.

Taken from the Telegraph website:

Quote:
We raised a generation who were told they had rights

But neglected to tell them they had responsibilities

We told the police to go softly

And allowed a generation to think they had free rein: ‘they can’t touch you’.

One day would come a reckoning

It has come

To restore order may require tougher measures than we have ever taken before.

Sasha222 09-08-2011 01:13
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
Stay safe Derek and to all who are in the areas where the trouble is.

wwe 09-08-2011 01:16
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
U might as well rename this tread to england riots. As there riots in manchester,liverpool,essex, birmingham and london where the worse is

iFrankie 09-08-2011 02:11
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
Guess im sleeping with a bat tonight..

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwJvH...layer_embedded

From Liverpool

denphone 09-08-2011 05:42
Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35284957)
Kind of think the Prime Minster needs to return now..
And when l said that earlier some forum members said l was going over the top.

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35285013)
Well they are now throwing petrol bombs so its time to kick arse, Bring in the army i say.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16045926
Definitely as the police do not seem to be able to handle the spiralling situations.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35285043)
I hate these people so much. They just want to destroy everything. Thugs.
Yes l agree and we should not show them no mercy.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...iots-live.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...m-2334131.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/au...-police-battle

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rol-bombs.html

Sirius 09-08-2011 05:53
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasha222 (Post 35285235)
Stay safe Derek and to all who are in the areas where the trouble is.
Ditto :tu:

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35285192)
I don't wish for anyone to stand up against them, I would rather they evacuated to a safe distance without their belongings and whatnot as its really not worth your life.

All I would like to see is the Police doing their job and innocents being safe and as far away as possible.
And if they cannot let the Army start kicking butts

TheDaddy 09-08-2011 05:58
Re: Riots in Tottenham
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35285104)
There is a world of difference between what's happening in london and what's happening in Syria and libya
Yes the people there are fighting and dying for basic rights and freedoms we take for granted, the people here are fighting and looting for big tellys and trainers, makes feel proud to be British doesn't it.

I still wouldn't bring the army in, a decent curfew systems in order, as is rounding up the ring leaders. My boroughs been hit to now, not to bad just some shops and cars smashed up for now.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35285121)
Well clearly the 30,000 Police officers in London are not managing Maggy, so what do we do next?
I read some where only 1700 extra officers are avaliable, kind of makes me wonder where the 5000 for the wedding appeared from.

denphone 09-08-2011 06:22
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
Well the Met police has 52,111 personnel but the question is where are they all?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropo...Police_Service

Sparkle 09-08-2011 06:30
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
Well lets see...

No discipline in schools, teachers regularly assaulted by students.
No discipline in homes, parents limited in how they are allowed to discipline their children.
Fathers increasingly seen as redundant, and not needed in the home. Fathers haven't got a leg to stand on in custody battles, so often children are raised in single parent households with little to no discipline. It has been statistically proven that fatherless children are far more likely to get involved in street gangs and violence.

The nanny state may have sounded good in theory, but sooner or later if people are not taught to take responsibility for their actions, its bound to spill out into the streets.

I've been saying for years this breakdown of law and order amongst young people has been in the pipeline. Where I disagree with most people is where the blame lies - it's too easy to just blame the kids. I think society and government as a whole are mostly responsible, for what is arguably, an inevitable conclusion.

Derek 09-08-2011 06:52
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
The inspector gadget site has gone into overdrive recently, some of the comments from officers on the front line are truly staggering.

Bullet holes in police vehicles, 18 hour shifts, cops in half uniform being attacked on their way home and an almost full mobilisation of public order officers UK wide. Absolutely unprecedented.

Yet still with the damage beyond belief the powers that be won't let the gloves come off. Cops are being told to hold back and watch, that the people responsible will be dealt with at a later date.

As well as the raising of a generation of feral youths, we've reached a stage where there is a generation of senior Police management afraid to take action. The front line want to get stuck in, and where they have been allowed to have restored order, but the management are more concerned about soundbites than actual policing.

Next time one of them appears on TV count how many times the bull plop bingo buzzwords come out "community", "partnership working" etc. etc.

denphone 09-08-2011 06:59
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35285257)
The inspector gadget site has gone into overdrive recently, some of the comments from officers on the front line are truly staggering.

Bullet holes in police vehicles, 18 hour shifts, cops in half uniform being attacked on their way home and an almost full mobilisation of public order officers UK wide. Absolutely unprecedented.

Yet still with the damage beyond belief the powers that be won't let the gloves come off. Cops are being told to hold back and watch, that the people responsible will be dealt with at a later date.

As well as the raising of a generation of feral youths, we've reached a stage where there is a generation of senior Police management afraid to take action. The front line want to get stuck in, and where they have been allowed to have restored order, but the management are more concerned about soundbites than actual policing.

Next time one of them appears on TV count how many times the bull plop bingo buzzwords come out "community", "partnership working" etc. etc.
Yes l agree with you totally on that the management does not seem to care two hoots about police who are in the frontline.:tu:

Hom3r 09-08-2011 07:00
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
Obviously those who stole mobile phones from the shops don't know about IMEI numbers and they can be tracked and blocked.

Central 09-08-2011 07:06
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
I live in Handsworth. Close enough to where some of the stuff happened but on a quiet road. Worst night of my life

Derek 09-08-2011 07:20
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
A selection of updates from http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/

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London fire fighter pulled off her motorcycle, punched in the face and threatened with a gun in Clapham last night on her way in. London Fire Brigade recieved 2,200 ’999′ calls, 15 times their usual demand.

The arson damage is quite unlike anything I have ever seen, even in Belfast in the bad old days. It is important that this is not under-reported, the scenes of damage are quite extraordinary.

I have spoken to many law-abiding members of the public. Feelings are running very high against local youths. People are displaying hatred and frustration, flavoured by a fair amount of racism.

We have heard about the armoured vehicles in Clapham, which cleared the street in minutes. We want to carry out a baton charge at a line of angry youths who are setting fire to a huge wheelie bin in the doorway of a post office, but we are told to ‘hold the line’.

At the briefing, many of my officers wanted cast-iron guarantees from Silver Command that no individual officers would be suspended and prosecuted if we use force and a rioter became seriously injured.

This was not forthcoming. There are at least 12 County forces here now, ‘Remember Tomlinson’ was being whispered everywhere at the FCP.

The scenes in front of us give a physical proof of everything we have ever said on this Blog about lack of consequences, weak criminal justice systems, nonsensical diversity policies which give ‘victim status’ to the mob and silly, target obsessed politically driven ACPO leadership. I never thought I’d see the results of all that actually burned on to the streets in front of me.

My final comment for the moment at 06:48 Hrs is that whatever you have seen on the TV, the reality is much, much worse.

Huge respect to the Fire Service and Ambulance Service. We also have over 300 bodies in custody; no chance of that number going to prison, we don’t have the space any more
Good point. With the numbers involved, even if only 1/4 are identified and prosecuted where are they going to find a couple of hundred prison places?

Mr_love_monkey 09-08-2011 07:32
re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 
jeez. the country turned into a warzone


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