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Wrong. Many people on here have stated that they don't object to the killing per se. It is the manner in which the killing takes place that they object to. To claim that people object because they are furry animals is simply misrepresenting what people have said. To then compare it with the killing of organisms that don't even have a nervous system thereby suggesting that 'a kill is a kill', so if you can do one then you should be able to do the other regardless of the manner is just silly.

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I started the point with microscopic organisms at the extreme end, and then went up the scale to insects, mice, moles, fish, farm stock etc.

You know this, as you were supposed to have read the post. So don't just cherry pick the bits that you want to back up your point.

I suppose that being trussed up by your hind legs and then getting your brain fried by an electrical pulse is an acceptable manner to be killed then?

Or just cutting the animals throat whilst the life drains out of it, is also ok.

Being killed instantly by a pack of dogs isn't though?

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One dog, apparently...

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As with all things, perspective is key. There are issues of necessity, availability of alternatives, and degree of unnecessary suffering involved which together determine what is and is not acceptable. It seems to me that few people doubt the necessity of culling foxes. What they object to is the degree of unnecessary suffering given the available alternatives.

And yes, there is a degree of double standards, regarding the fluffieness of animals. Probably one of the most inhumane way in which we kill animals is what we do to industrially caught fish. We take them out of their element and just leave them to die. Not many people get worked up about that, because they don't see it, and fish aren't very fluffy. We tend to get worked up about mammals. I'm not sure whether that is very relevant to this thread though.

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As I stated, it's the method I object to, not the killing. If they just wanted the fox dead, they wouldn't bother with the whole hunt. Just a single man with a shotgun.
Not denying that. I have said that foxes are vermin, and I am quite aware of what they do.
Slavery, imperialism and Racism are also traditions in this country. Doesn't mean they are right.

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Talk about tugging at the extremes in order to make a point, I thought I was bad.

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Please can someone explain why all the people on horseback are required to chase the fox, when the hounds are the ones leading the way and cornering the fox? Then one of the hounds does the killing, not the horses or the people riding them?

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Because that's how they do it.

Explain why a man with a cap dodges a bull and kills it slowly by inserting sharp items into its spine??????

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Oddly enough so do hunts.

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Why? When I find such actions just as inexplicable.

However, in all the many and sometimes contradictory points in favour of fox hunting I have never heard a rational explanation for all the people on horseback.

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Really!!!!!!!.............


My response was to such a statement, please keep up.

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Because there isn't one.

They're out for a day out on their horse. They're out for a ride. They all chase the fox because it gives them something to chase after. That's all.

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Yes, I'm well aware of that. The video footage was for those, unlike yourself, who may not be aware of such mishaps.

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Poor kids, didn't like this line either

As the law stands, hunts are not held liable for the actions of their hounds.

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But there's nothing stopping them doing that now, is there? It's just that the fox needs to be replaced.

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Still not sure what the point is.

An unfortunate incident, where an innocent pet was killed by people undertaking a pastime.

I suppose if someone was out for a leisurely drive in their car or on their motorbike and ran over a cat we'd all be reeling back in shock and horror, and calling for driving for enjoyment to be banned.