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cant see it bud,obviously everyones staying loyal to VM and refusing to watch it,even though most will have a tv with built-in freeview..not havin a pop m8 ;)

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What exactly has freeview got to do with football?

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sky spots news m8,thats were i saw the 'breaking news' :erm:

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Sorry, I missed the sky sports feed on here...from now on, shall I ask you, before I post it anything, to see if you have already seen it on the news? If you have, I will assume everyone else has as well.

Plus, this thread is to discuss football, it is not to "break news".

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Interesting article here about Cristiano Ronaldo.

Regarding todays matches, I would not like to see West Ham relegated even though they never done us any favours back in 94, so it has to be Wigan or Sheffield United for me, and probably the latter as I cannot stand Warnock.

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I say send them down. Thir stubborness meant we came second in 1995. You know what they say about payback :D

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I hope that ManU can send West Ham down :) prefer Sheffield and Wigan above the Hammers.

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Well the Hammers survive by the skin of their teeth.

Going to be interesting to see what legal action happens now on the part of the relegated teams. These things can takes ages if the courts are ultimately involved though so who knows what'll happen but if it drags into next season........

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I am not sure of all the clubs who are suing except Wigan, who now will probably retract their claim as they are now safe.

Charlton and Watford were down anyway, so that only leaves Sheffield United.

I noticed in an interview by Sky that Warnock, when prompted, had a little dig at Ferguson for fielding an under strength side. Of course it was complete and utter drivel from someone whose team had just been relegated.

I can only add that if Sheffield United were good enough for the premiership, they wouldn't have been in the position they were in, at 3pm this afternoon.

Tough luck Mr Warnock !!!!

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Get in! We finished above the ****. (Newcastle) :drunk:

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Yes, heard that same interview. If anything is going to happen it'll need to happen quickly but this morning apparently 6 clubs are considering pursuing action. Of course any action taken which involved a significant points deduction will be appealed by West Ham which will further delay matters.

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well i'm glad West Ham stayed up and they did it on the pitch.. the table shows them in 15th so that should be it really.. i think there have been things in the past like the Alan Sugar case where the problem was caused by the old board of the club, hence Spurs never lost any points

not very impressed by us on Sunday.. sure we had a lot of the ball but we didn't really have that many shots on target.. we kept wanting to take too many passes before putting it in the net instead of shooting when we had the chance from the edge of the box

roll on the cup final on Sat

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I believe that is now known as having "The Arsenals".

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I am sure he'll be in demand

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ic/6653185.stm

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i'd love it if he went to Newcastle and Alladyce ended up with no job at all :D

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Sam could always end up at Man City ;)

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Every chance now Pearce has been sacked.

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Blimey, they aren't wasting anytime these day's, just goes to show the fear that losing these big money tv contracts puts in chairmen

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IMHO i think they have made a mistake getting rid of pearce

he's a good manager and puts his heart and soul into the job. Looking at who theplayers are there isn't much to work with there and so it's no wonder they are down the bottom.. without pearce they could have been worse off and unless they invest alot in the team whoever takes over won't do any better

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He is responsible for bringing them in though, what cash he has had has been wasted, I don't think he has made one decent signing, if it weren't for their youth set up they'd be in the Championship and the new owners wouldn't like the idea of him wasting their millions, better he goes now, that said, it wouldn't shock me to see him make a good job of the under 21s

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I am sure that Warnock put a weakened team out at Old Trafford recently, as they were playing Charlton on the Saturday (:scratch: I wonder which game gave the better chance of some points ;) ). I bet Chelsea loved that...

They should have kept him...he was doing a great job ;) :D

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How did this man build up such a good business when he is so thick, he can't be serious, all Tevez had to do was sign the same contract with the dodgy paragraph removed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/6652931.stm

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shock of the year didn't see this one coming

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ed/6654121.stm

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Really? Didn't surprise me at all, you just can't keep Big Sam down.

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Jumping from a solid job at Bolton with Newcastle was/is a big risk though.

Maybe there was something behind the scenes at Bolton holding Big Sam back that he didn't like.

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If Bolton had beaten Arsenal then he would have probably stayed. It was after the arsenal match that he resigned but it didn't come out for a few weeks. But it seems like he thinks he has taken them as far as he can.

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Lack of ambition for a start, they didn't have the will to compete, top managers are multi millionaires anyway, why go through the motions when you could go for something money can't buy, trophies, who will remember him in 50 years if he'd continued at Bolton and won nothing, whereas the manager that finally wins something at Newcastle will achieve legendary status forevermore, worth the risk imo

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If he doesn't bring instant sucess and/or they head downward, then his career and legacy would be ruined. He must have a lot of faith that he can do better than 7th in the league.

Being in charge of the 7th best team in the UK isn't a bad thing i'd thought, and Bolton are still in UEFA.

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Course he has faith, how would you cope with the ego's of modern footballers if you didn't have a bit of one yourself and I think he'll be given a bit of time to

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Judging by the reported size of the contract I can't see him being sacked too soon.

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well FIFA are now on the case looking into the tevez transfer and the punishment to West Ham

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/6657697.stm

that's got me relieved i'm sure they will do a goob job :D

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A well deserved manager of the year award :tu: :tu:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ng/6661535.stm

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Warnock departs

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6659513.stm

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Not as good as these guys


Meanwhile, MP's are calling on the Premier League to "clarify the rules" over third party owenership.
Nine MP's have signed a House of Commons motion condemning the decision as "lenient" saying it shows that "advantage can be gained by cheating".

Spaffing off as usual without being aware of the facts, although when it comes to dishonesty, cheating and not telling the truth your average MP could teach us all a thing or two

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I cannot believe that no one has mentioned Mourinho's brush with the law, yet... ;) :D

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...Joey Barton has been arrested as well.

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I did :)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...uk-border.html

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Game on, Forest 0- 1 Yeovil, a fantastic strike .:cool:

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Oh dear, nffc will be peed off. What a great game for the uncommitted fans though.

In fact with the exception of the MK Dons v Shrewsbury games and the first leg, Oldham v Blackpool game, the play off matches have been brilliant entertainment, some real quality football in the lower leagues.

Jim.

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:Yikes: I didn't watch it, but when I flicked through before and saw that Forest had equalised, I that, that they were through then...don't count your chickens...

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Oh dear, sorry nffc, but that is a fantastic effort from Yeovil

Nottm Forest 2-5 Yeovil

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot..._2/6649773.stm

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You were just scared of playing us in the playoff final.

Calderwood and his bloody subs though :mad:

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Nottingham Forest manager Colin Calderwood:


The person who made poor decisions was you Calderwood - substitutions that cost us the match. Prutton who got himself sent off (idiot) and even worse, bringing on Morgan - that caused confusion at the back allowing them to score, and then he gave them the forth goal FOC, and then we ended up as nine men because wright was crippled and we had no more subs to bring on.

That said, we played very poorly (bloody sky camera jinx again) the better team on the day won.

I don't think Yeovil will get promoted though - I expect them to be meeting Blackpool, and I expect Blackpool to win.

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Well well well what can one say about that shower last night? All day yesterday the local radio stations were bigging Forest up. I was talking to a guy on Thursday in the gym about the match, my words were, "I fancy Yeovil getting something on Friday night". He said don't be daft man Forest will hammer them, I said you just watch Forest will do their normal thing and sit back thinking we've got this in the bag. It happened didn't it they got stuffed by a team who were well up for it, a team that played better than Forest in both legs of the play off's, the blame must be placed at Calderwoods door, if you ask me he's a totally inept manager, his decisions over the season cost Forest promotion.

Look on the bright side though thay can play leeds next season:D:D

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Oh dear ! :zzz:

This is poo :disturbd:

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Scholes is the key man for man u with his passing ability. Nobody seems willing to make runs though at the moment. And Ronaldo needs to be switched to the right, in the first half Wright-philips has been doubling up on him.

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No way should that have been a goal. Lying cheating Drogba taking a tumble under Smith's challenge :grind:

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Oh well...better luck next year...

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Yes - and at least Arsenal won nothing yet again :D

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Indeed, just the Premier League this year it seems.

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That ball was over the bloody line. Oh well, i'd rather win the league than the cup :)

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Indeed it was, but only after Giggs's momentum had pushed even Cech over the line....

You cant be seriously arguing that that was a goal can you?

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Plus, how was the linesman and referee supposed to see it, as there were players in the way? ;)

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It wasn't a goal but I do think it should have been a pen.

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almost as ridulous as thinking it was a goal....... just be happy with ya premiership title and let us dissapointed chelsea fans enjoy the FA cup mate.........

I tell you what though, as soon as Kalou can start to finish he will be scoring some decent goals.

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Why?

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Yeah, CC's dour defensiveness forced Yeovil to be even more vigorous attacking us. Every time we got it... HOOOOOOF. And taking off Dobie (who was surprisingly good), Lester and McGugan for Prutton (who didn't do much apart from foul - but it is part of his game to get stuck in), Grant Holt (fair enough, but clearly half fit) and Morgan (what was he thinking?)...

And Morgan's behaviour after the game - total disgrace. Breckin sticks a finger up at fans and is castigated and forced to apologise, but at least he didn't lay fists on fans. He should be handed his P45 and whilst the P45s are out give one to CC as well.

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have to say apart from Scholes and Rooney who tried in a lone striker role not suited to his game no one else performed.. if we had put the ball in the net we would have won

Chelsea were no better and were prepared to wait for pens

they scored from a free kick that never was though as Smith won the ball

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No free kick was given :shrug:

Another case for goal line technology to be used in football? ;)

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Sorry, but are you John Motson, with that statement? ;) :D

I am curious...why should it have been a penalty?

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The referee or the linesman saw the ball over the line so couldnt have given the goal. If they had seen the incident clearly they would (or should have ) given a foul against Cech.

I can't beleive there are people here who have the benefit of TV and replays to suggest it wasnt a foul on Cech, and that the goal should have stood. Maybe their argument should be re-phrased something a long the lines of ..."Although I know that Giggs slid into Cech, taking him, and the ball, over the line unseen by the referee, he should have given a goal anyway."

Was it a penalty, well Ryan Giggs didnt seem to think so............

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...up/6668517.stm

"He said: "It was clearly over the line - that's what I was asking for. I could see it was over the line and the referee didn't give a free-kick so it was a goal. "I felt I was getting to the ball quite comfortably and felt someone touch my leg.
"But I was claiming for the goal not the penalty.

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I don't think that it was a foul, it was just one of those things where it would have been impossible for the ref to give, from the position of the players and the goalie. Goalies get slightly more protection from the refs than is necessary in my opinion. IMO, there was nothing malicious in what Giggs did, he had every right to go for the ball and he just went into Cech, who was just too close to the line to stop. (I am not saying that because I am an Utd fan, before anyone thinks that, if it was against Utd, I would say the same).

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Excuse the intrusion, I just thought The Daddy might like to see this

Carry on peeps ;)

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Because without the contact from Essien I think Giggs stays on his feet and has a better chance of scoring

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To be honest, Essien was just doing what he was supposed to do. To me, he didn't do anything wrong (which was a shame ;) ) He is there to defend... :)

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Would Giggs have fallen without contact from Essien?
Did Essien play the ball?

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To me, Giggs was sliding in, to try to reach the ball and Essien was along side.

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From what I remember Essien was behind Giggs and made contact with the back of this legs.

Can't find it on youtube will have a look tomorrow

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Well, from SLM's post, even Giggs himself didn't think that it was penalty. :shrug:

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From what I saw, Essien slid in behind Giggs while at the same time Giggs was sliding in to meet the ball. I don't think Essien even made contact with Giggs, and Giggs himself has said he wasnt appealing for a penalty.

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Why would he appeal for a penalty, when he was already appealing for the goal ? It was clearly over the line, you've been listening to Arsene "I deed not seee eeet" wenger too much. If that had happened at the other end, no doubt your eyesight would be much better. Nothing wrong with your eyesight at Anfield 2 years ago, was there. ;)

And on the subject of Liverpool, didn't Mourinho label them as a cup team during the build up of the champions league semi ? Well guess what Jose, remind me what you've won this season. :scratch:

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Come on! It wasn't a penalty. Essien was doing a defender's job.

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I never said it was, re-read my post. ;)

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Ahhh...post something vague, which can be interpreted both ways, so you can claim the opposite when questioned ;) :D

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There was nothing vague about my post..................you been on the shandy again. :rofl:

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this is why there is so much cheating and diving and penalty incidents every match.. at no point did Essien say i'm going to take Giggs' legs away and stop him playing football which is what a foul is. sure there was some contact but it is a contact sport.. he didn't take his legs away on purpose so it isn't a foul.. Giggs only put the ball over the line after sliding into and pushing Cech so it wasn't a goal

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You do know what sort of player Essien is though, right?

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It's here about 3m 30s in...

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To me it look like Giggs is shaping side foot the ball

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9774/giggsds6.jpg

Then essien makes contact with the back of his leg causing him to fall

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6919/giggs1bq3.jpg

Look where the ball is, why would giggs need to slide to get it.

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Just breaking on SSN - Hargreaves is off to Man U for £17m according to Franz Beckenbauer...

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And the beeb have confirmed it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6546939.stm

To be fair, this was a foregone conclusion really.

Now for Torres from Athletico Madrid :D

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Reputation? Ronaldo has a reputation for diving, does that mean that every time he gets tackled, he has dived?

To me that is an extremely weak claim for a penalty. Even Giggs didn't think that it was a foul. I do think that Essien was just doing what a defender should do, challenging him for the ball. Okay, on a tv reply, where you can keep going back and forth, there may be a grey area, where you can try to argue for it, but I can definitely see why nothing was given by the officials.

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Live football now on Sky sports news :shocked:

Ok its Exeter v Morecambe but I've never seen live footy games on SSN before.

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Pity it's like watching via t'internet on dial-up though... ;)

Terrible picture quality on freeview here...

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Hey ! Don't knock it, anythings better than nowt for us freeviewers. :D

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And it's a better game than yesterdays :)

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Dead right there. :D

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Paul Jones making some fantastic saves :)

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well as i said i don't think it was a foul anyway and even after that when Giggs was sliding along the ground if he had used his right leg me might of scored as well

i'm more concerned with the so called foul that Chelsea got that they scored from.. that wasn't a foul either

still at the end of the day Chelsea won and we lost so just have to hope we can retain the league now

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The only thing I am bemused at is, nothing was given by the ref at all, it was as though............"ball over the line" , oh well, carry on lads.

I can only think that the ref thought that the attempt on goal was saved and that was it.

tbh. I thought the game was (as a worldwide spectacle) rubbish, but, both teams did look tired, so maybe the FA, the premier league etc should look at teams schedules in the future.

I would say well done Chelsea, but they didn't deserve it, but then again, neither did United. All in all, a bit of a non-event really, I was entertained more by the conference final this afternoon.

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You could always have done what I did, the game was so dull I kept flicking over to the cricket and saw Monty take five wickets.:cool:

If we had the same referee as in the 1958 final, Giggsy's goal would have been allowed, 'Lion of Vienna' anyone. ;)

Jim.

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well it would appear that even Fergie thinks the same as me :D

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/sto...139913,00.html

i was going to say VDS could have done more for the FA Cup goal but as i've moaned at him so much of late i decided not to bother

i've said ever since we signed VDS that he isn't good enough for us.. yes i agree he has been the best we have had since Schmiechal but considering who that is comparing him against isn't saying much

from what i've seen of Foster he looks a good keeper.. i'm sure he will make a few mistakes, even some VDS would have saved, but i think in the long run he will be a better choice for us

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I heard on the radio earlier Stuart Pearce had been approached, wonder what the FA will say though if it's true

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Not much advantage if he'd given them a free kick two yards of the goal line

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You know he has a Liverpool tattoo on his wrist, you'd be better of with Tevez if you can scrape the cash together

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:tu:

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:confused:

Which one is to do with Liverpool?

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The 9, its the number of times he watched Drogba's goal at the weekend whilst laughing.

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Nah, it's the one on the right....

It says 'Calm down, calm down' in Sanskrit... ;)

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My mistake, it's actually on the inside of his armband

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...180812,00.html

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Which surprises me, much as I would like to see it, since, err, that chairman hates his guts. The fans were chanting for him though.

I don't see how the FA could complain. After all, he was a club manager with a contract when they appointed him.

I'd also quite like some U21 players on loan... :)

Psycho or maybe even Russell Slade - his side at least plays solid, confident attacking football, they pass well, and they're better than their ability suggests - and he's a Forest fan. You could tell he wasn't entirely comfortable with the idea of beating us!

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Talk about a drawn out transfer move.

I think United need another striker, such as the much touted Torres.
"Sick note" Saha is a bit of a liability, and Dong won't figure in the plans yet as he is just another Asian shirt deal signing anyway imo.

Link

A few more names in the hat according to the press

Link

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Apparently you are trying to hijack our 8 million bid for Gudjohnson as well

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we are also meant to be afer Alves for heenveen ( I know I have spelt that wrong ) who's meant to be really good but not sure what sort of striker he is, target man, play maker etc etc

we need a replacement for Giggs too, based on some of his displays this season he's past it already, Nani has been mentioned

I have to admit all these names we have been linked with everyone goes on saying sign this bloke and that bloke and most i've barely seen play just know their names from the paper

also haev TK coming in from West Brom as a perm signing then i think he is going out on loan

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Spurs should have signed a couple of good young players in Bale and Kabul by tomorrow

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ur/6683989.stm

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was hoping we would get Bale but in some ways it's nice to see clubs a bit lower down the league are still able to make these signings i always thought if Spurs had been more consistent this season they could have finished above Arsenal but each time they got close they skipped away