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denphone 14-08-2017 09:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35912384)
But where I struggle with this is the fact you keep telling us how bad the pay TV channels are , so that poses the question why bother paying ? Why not just use Amazon and Netflix with a Freeview/Freesat recorder. At least that way your not forced to pay to watch channels you have no interest in.

A man of utter contradictions one would say.;)

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35912382)
Is it really so hard to change source and watch on another device.

No.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912381)
Agreed. LG's stance on this beggars belief. At this rate, VM will always be the poor relation to Sky.

They are both good at different things OB so please none of this age old codswallop please.:)

alwaysabear 14-08-2017 11:14

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35912382)
Is it really so hard to change source and watch on another device.

Its so easy I cannot see the problem! It take two button presses and three page rights to get from Tivo to Amazon prime on my tv.

gba93 14-08-2017 11:28

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35912399)
Its so easy I cannot see the problem! It take two button presses and three page rights to get from Tivo to Amazon prime on my tv.

Ahhh! but you have to know left from right :confused:

OLD BOY 14-08-2017 12:59

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35912399)
Its so easy I cannot see the problem! It take two button presses and three page rights to get from Tivo to Amazon prime on my tv.

How does this resolvethe problem of no common favourite programmes index? I don't think you are paying attention! ;)

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912387)
A man of utter contradictions one would say.;)

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No.

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They are both good at different things OB so please none of this age old codswallop please.:)

Where is the contradiction, Den? Clearly, there is something you don't quite understand!

denphone 14-08-2017 13:14

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912410)
How does this resolvethe problem of no common favourite programmes index? I don't think you are paying attention! ;)

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Where is the contradiction, Den? Clearly, there is something you don't quite understand!

If you cannot see your contradictions then perhaps taking a week out to read your previous posts will reveal everything.;)

theone2k10 14-08-2017 13:24

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912383)
As I've said on many occasions, I want just one index of all the shows I am watching.

At the moment, I have the one list that provides my recordings and bookmarked programmes on demand and on Netflix.

It is a nuisance to have to go to different systems to access the material being followed there. It would be good to be able to bookmark Amazon stuff as well so all the various series I am following can be accessed immediately.

As the number of streaming services grows, this will become increasingly important, particularly where some programmes get taken off again after a while. Now TV is particularly bad for this.

I can see your point tbh which is why i invested in a windows tv it's ok having a roku or firetv etc but with windows tv box everything is there on one box my uk, us and canadian services.
I can access my netflix, skygo, itv player, kodi etc all on one device without having to switch sources.
Windows tv boxes are only a few quid more than android ones anyway i paid £75 for my windows 10 box and £60 for my android box.

OLD BOY 14-08-2017 15:14

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35912415)
I can see your point tbh which is why i invested in a windows tv it's ok having a roku or firetv etc but with windows tv box everything is there on one box my uk, us and canadian services.
I can access my netflix, skygo, itv player, kodi etc all on one device without having to switch sources.
Windows tv boxes are only a few quid more than android ones anyway i paid £75 for my windows 10 box and £60 for my android box.

Thanks, theone, I'll look into that.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35912413)
If you cannot see your contradictions then perhaps taking a week out to read your previous posts will reveal everything.;)

There are no contadictions, Den.

buckeye 14-08-2017 16:20

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35912415)
I can see your point tbh which is why i invested in a windows tv it's ok having a roku or firetv etc but with windows tv box everything is there on one box my uk, us and canadian services.
I can access my netflix, skygo, itv player, kodi etc all on one device without having to switch sources.
Windows tv boxes are only a few quid more than android ones anyway i paid £75 for my windows 10 box and £60 for my android box.

A Windows box is the closest to an all in one box however there are still some limitations.
I've been using a Windows HTPC for around 10 years for much of my media consumption.
Any x86/x64 hardware whatever OS its running would always be my first choice for Kodi, imho once you've run Kodi on any semi decent PC all other variants seem inferior.
All the various streaming services do run on Windows but as I said there are some limitations that may annoy some people, I'll try and list all I can remember.
For a start there is no native BBC Iplayer or Sport apps for Windows so both have to be run through a browser in a mouse environment rather than with a remote control, and even on my quite powerful and expensive HTPC these don't run that great (frequent drops in bitrate despite my 200 meg connection), for this reason I prefer using Iplayer through the Kodi addon but there is the odd occasion that stops working when the BBC change their website and the addon author has to catch up, and I view their sports content on the Sport app on one of my devices.
The same is true of Amazon video in that it only works through a browser but without the bitrate drops and you also lose 5:1 DD sound via this method.

Netflix does has a Windows app and it has 5:1 sound but is only mouse friendly.
Netflix via the app or a browser has a serious bug though, if you have a Windows box that only has a HDMI 2 port but your TV is not 4K you will get an error telling you that your TV is not HDCP 2.2 compatible and the only way to get out of this is to pull the power to your Windows device (luckily my HTPC has two HDMI ports 1.4 and 2 so I have to use the 1.4 port to get over this bug).

Now TV also has a Windows app, this works reasonably well, but even though it works a bit better with a Windows remote than Netflix you still need to use a mouse for full control of it.
As I said the Now TV Windows app works reasonably well but it does suffer the occasional bitrate drop that my Now TV smart boxes don't do.

Eurosport player again is a browser and mouse only environment, this is the best I've seen of this combination though, the picture is always spot on in HD and if you prefer to use a remote then there is a very good Kodi addon for it.

For US content I use ESPN, Fox Sports, NBC Sports, HBO, Fox/FX, NBC, ABC and CBS, apart from ESPN and Fox Sports I've given up on using the others on Windows.
The NBC Sports app on Windows doesn't include Premier League Football (even though the awful browser version does), most of the others don't have a Windows app or are just better on my Apple TV 4.
My Windows machine does allow me to set up a virtual VPN router for my US content though which fools my Apple TV 4 into thinking its in the US and I pretty much use the ATV 4 device exclusively for when I want to use US services (its awful for British content though)

I know everyone can't afford to do this or even have the inclination or know how but for the reasons I've listed above I have several devices,
it would be nice to have one to do it all but the one that does do it all is a jack of all trades whereas I prefer to have the best viewing and user experience for each thing I'm watching.

If we were in America there's quite a few devices that would cater for our streaming needs all on their own but we're not and maybe one day one device will do it all well but that day hasn't hit the UK yet.

MyBraiNz 14-08-2017 16:32

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35912371)
It was due this month but Liberty Global pulled the plug on it.

Brilliant.. looks like the Amazon Five TV Stick will have to be purchased then :(

muppetman11 14-08-2017 16:43

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35912296)
Why would any normal household need that bandwidth? And at what cost?

You could pretty much say the same about Virgins Broadband packages over the 100mb mark.

OLD BOY 14-08-2017 17:41

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35912458)
You could pretty much say the same about Virgins Broadband packages over the 100mb mark.

I used to think that, but with our use of wi-fi now, the demands of the V6s, tablets, mobiles, all being used at the same time, I'm rather glad of my superhub!

If you are a gamer, I believe it is essential to have plenty of Mbs!


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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35912455)
A Windows box is the closest to an all in one box however there are still some limitations.
I've been using a Windows HTPC for around 10 years for much of my media consumption.
Any x86/x64 hardware whatever OS its running would always be my first choice for Kodi, imho once you've run Kodi on any semi decent PC all other variants seem inferior.
All the various streaming services do run on Windows but as I said there are some limitations that may annoy some people, I'll try and list all I can remember.
For a start there is no native BBC Iplayer or Sport apps for Windows so both have to be run through a browser in a mouse environment rather than with a remote control, and even on my quite powerful and expensive HTPC these don't run that great (frequent drops in bitrate despite my 200 meg connection), for this reason I prefer using Iplayer through the Kodi addon but there is the odd occasion that stops working when the BBC change their website and the addon author has to catch up, and I view their sports content on the Sport app on one of my devices.
The same is true of Amazon video in that it only works through a browser but without the bitrate drops and you also lose 5:1 DD sound via this method.

Netflix does has a Windows app and it has 5:1 sound but is only mouse friendly.
Netflix via the app or a browser has a serious bug though, if you have a Windows box that only has a HDMI 2 port but your TV is not 4K you will get an error telling you that your TV is not HDCP 2.2 compatible and the only way to get out of this is to pull the power to your Windows device (luckily my HTPC has two HDMI ports 1.4 and 2 so I have to use the 1.4 port to get over this bug).

Now TV also has a Windows app, this works reasonably well, but even though it works a bit better with a Windows remote than Netflix you still need to use a mouse for full control of it.
As I said the Now TV Windows app works reasonably well but it does suffer the occasional bitrate drop that my Now TV smart boxes don't do.

Eurosport player again is a browser and mouse only environment, this is the best I've seen of this combination though, the picture is always spot on in HD and if you prefer to use a remote then there is a very good Kodi addon for it.

For US content I use ESPN, Fox Sports, NBC Sports, HBO, Fox/FX, NBC, ABC and CBS, apart from ESPN and Fox Sports I've given up on using the others on Windows.
The NBC Sports app on Windows doesn't include Premier League Football (even though the awful browser version does), most of the others don't have a Windows app or are just better on my Apple TV 4.
My Windows machine does allow me to set up a virtual VPN router for my US content though which fools my Apple TV 4 into thinking its in the US and I pretty much use the ATV 4 device exclusively for when I want to use US services (its awful for British content though)

I know everyone can't afford to do this or even have the inclination or know how but for the reasons I've listed above I have several devices,
it would be nice to have one to do it all but the one that does do it all is a jack of all trades whereas I prefer to have the best viewing and user experience for each thing I'm watching.

If we were in America there's quite a few devices that would cater for our streaming needs all on their own but we're not and maybe one day one device will do it all well but that day hasn't hit the UK yet.

Thank you for taking the trouble to explain this, buckeye. I am not sure I could cope with all that!

I hope the complexity of getting all of your watch lists in one place finally demonstrates to those who seem not to understand the problem that led me to conclude that if Virgin offered as many streaming services as possible, this would be attractive to subscribers and could be their USP.

I think this may bring forward my migration from pay tv to streaming services, but I'll bide my time for now.

LG's veto is seriously disappointing and lacks vision.

muppetman11 14-08-2017 18:14

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912465)
I used to think that, but with our use of wi-fi now, the demands of the V6s, tablets, mobiles, all being used at the same time, I'm rather glad of my superhub!

If you are a gamer, I believe it is essential to have plenty of Mbs!

Streaming V6 recordings around your home uses your Wi-Fi network rather than your internet connection obviously the likes of YouTube and Netflix use your internet.

Browsing the internet even by multiple people uses very small amount of your available connection , as for online gaming it's your ping what's the most important.

theone2k10 14-08-2017 18:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912465)
I used to think that, but with our use of wi-fi now, the demands of the V6s, tablets, mobiles, all being used at the same time, I'm rather glad of my superhub!

If you are a gamer, I believe it is essential to have plenty of Mbs!


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Thank you for taking the trouble to explain this, buckeye. I am not sure I could cope with all that!

I hope the complexity of getting all of your watch lists in one place finally demonstrates to those who seem not to understand the problem that led me to conclude that if Virgin offered as many streaming services as possible, this would be attractive to subscribers and could be their USP.

I think this may bring forward my migration from pay tv to streaming services, but I'll bide my time for now.

LG's veto is seriously disappointing and lacks vision.

I'm a gamer and 38mbs is fine for me but i do get 9.8mbs upload too imo if vm stopped being so tight fisted with upload speed they'd be much better.
Edit: MM is absolutely spot on the ping is vital in online gaming however as i live stream too upload is also extremley important.

Media Boy UK 14-08-2017 18:54

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We see the Red Button is still working on BBC Three (Channel 106) maybe liberty global has step in.

RichardCoulter 14-08-2017 18:57

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https://www.c21media.net/sonys-kix-to-become-pop-max/

Kix is to become Pop Max from 30/8/17. This looks like a permanent change to me; is this the same channel that we get on channel 738 (labelled Kix Power)?

Hum Masala has now started on satellite, so I assume it won't be long before it comes to VM if negotiations went well.

Media Boy UK 14-08-2017 19:03

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35912484)
https://www.c21media.net/sonys-kix-to-become-pop-max/

Kix is to become Pop Max from 30/8/17. This looks like a permanent change to me; is this the same channel that we get on channel 738 (labelled Kix Power)?

Hum Masala has now started on satellite, so I assume it won't be long before it comes to VM if negotiations went well.

As far as we know both channels listed by RichardCoulter are not set to launch any time soon.

RichardCoulter 14-08-2017 21:04

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35912486)
As far as we know both channels listed by RichardCoulter are not set to launch any time soon.

What's the channel on EPG number 738, is it different to Kix :confused:

Media Boy UK 14-08-2017 21:10

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35912518)
What's the channel on EPG number 738, is it different to Kix :confused:

Yes it an part time Power Ranger channel.

theone2k10 14-08-2017 21:35

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35912522)
Yes it an part time Power Ranger channel.

Does it do a mighty morph?

Media Boy UK 14-08-2017 21:42

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35912534)
Does it do a mighty morph?

No it have an power cut after up to six weeks.

It will relaunch 'later in the year'.

buckeye 15-08-2017 17:28

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35912465)
Thank you for taking the trouble to explain this, buckeye. I am not sure I could cope with all that!

I hope the complexity of getting all of your watch lists in one place finally demonstrates to those who seem not to understand the problem that led me to conclude that if Virgin offered as many streaming services as possible, this would be attractive to subscribers and could be their USP.

I think this may bring forward my migration from pay tv to streaming services, but I'll bide my time for now.

LG's veto is seriously disappointing and lacks vision.

Purely conjecture on my part but I guess with Mr Malone having fingers in the content pie as well then if everything were available via apps it would cut into his profits for his other business's,
also VM wouldn't be able to generate profits by charging people for what they don't want in order to view the things they do want.

Unfortunately imho this country is always going to lag behind our American cousins unless the major content holders (Sky and BT) are forced to divest their platform business from their content as BT has been forced to do with Openreach recently.

muppetman11 15-08-2017 17:48

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35912702)
Purely conjecture on my part but I guess with Mr Malone having fingers in the content pie as well then if everything were available via apps it would cut into his profits for his other business's,
also VM wouldn't be able to generate profits by charging people for what they don't want in order to view the things they do want.

Unfortunately imho this country is always going to lag behind our American cousins unless the major content holders (Sky and BT) are forced to divest their platform business from their content as BT has been forced to do with Openreach recently.

Why should they have to when many other providers around the world are platforms as well as content providers , being that you mention it even in the USA.

OLD BOY 15-08-2017 19:42

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35912702)
Purely conjecture on my part but I guess with Mr Malone having fingers in the content pie as well then if everything were available via apps it would cut into his profits for his other business's,
also VM wouldn't be able to generate profits by charging people for what they don't want in order to view the things they do want.

Unfortunately imho this country is always going to lag behind our American cousins unless the major content holders (Sky and BT) are forced to divest their platform business from their content as BT has been forced to do with Openreach recently.

Understood, but then again, if access to the additional apps was only made available to subscribers on the Full House package, Mr Malone would be secure in the knowledge that all the apps in the world would not dilute his offerings (as long as they too were part of the Full House package!).

Mr Malone should be smart enough to realise that people who wanted Amazon and other OTT services would get them anyway through other devices. What he would be doing by allowing them on our set top boxes would be adding value, by allowing the content on these other services to be bookmarked on one list.

SonicMaster 15-08-2017 20:03

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35912484)
https://www.c21media.net/sonys-kix-to-become-pop-max/

Kix is to become Pop Max from 30/8/17. This looks like a permanent change to me; is this the same channel that we get on channel 738 (labelled Kix Power)?

Sony are ditching the Kix brand, so that all 3 of their children's channels sit in a clean set; Pop, Tiny Pop and Pop Max.

Therefore I think it is very likely that Kix Power will leave VM, and if they have any sense at all they will replace it with Pop Max, so that we have the same 3 channels as Sky, Freeview, Freesat, YouView, BT and TalkTalk.

RichardCoulter 16-08-2017 13:58

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Yes, that would make sense all round.

Ddonald2016 17-08-2017 11:19

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Has anybody tried tve new radio app, its good shAme tHe favourites dont sync between boxes

Media Boy UK 17-08-2017 14:24

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Radio Times has confirm that Sky Cinema Star Wars will be with us for two weeks from August 21st to September 4th using Sky Cinema Greats Channel number (Virgin Channel 434 [UK] and Virgin Channel 307 [Ireland])

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35912736)
Therefore I think it is very likely that Kix Power will leave VM, and if they have any sense at all they will replace it with Pop Max, so that we have the same 3 channels as Sky, Freeview, Freesat, YouView, BT and TalkTalk.

Channel listing for "Kix Power" still says "Channel off air" until August 31st on TiVo Boxes.

RichardCoulter 18-08-2017 15:17

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Wonder if it'll return with a new name though, given the rebranding excercise.

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Confirmed:. Freesports coming to VM:

https://www.freesports.tv

denphone 18-08-2017 15:30

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No doubt it will be heralded by Virgin as a great new channel coming and well worth their forthcoming price rise.

RichardCoulter 18-08-2017 17:44

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Probably, despite it being a FTA channel (though I do expect these to be added as a matter of course for those actually paying for their television service).

Chad 18-08-2017 22:53

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35913131)
Wonder if it'll return with a new name though, given the rebranding excercise.

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Confirmed:. Freesports coming to VM:

https://www.freesports.tv

I think the channel looks decent. Looks like a direct spin-off of Premier Sports and their content. Interesting from the trailer on their website that they appear to have the rights to Portuguese football. Okay so it's not blockbuster content but there's plenty on offer to appease fans of rugby, ice hockey, speedway and NASCAR.

I'd rather have it than not have it.

theone2k10 18-08-2017 22:55

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35913136)
No doubt it will be heralded by Virgin as a great new channel coming and well worth their forthcoming price rise.

So it'll be in vms XL pack then?

RichardCoulter 19-08-2017 05:47

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At a guess I'd say M+/Mix, as all the past few additions of Freeview channels have been put into this pack.

I find the new radio app a lot easier to use than TuneIn.

jj20x 19-08-2017 19:56

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35913251)
I find the new radio app a lot easier to use than TuneIn.

It's V6 only isn't it? which is an interesting move. Maybe commencing the end-of-life phase for the legacy Tivo boxes.

OLD BOY 19-08-2017 20:27

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35913317)
It's V6 only isn't it? which is an interesting move. Maybe commencing the end-of-life phase for the legacy Tivo boxes.

Frankly, the old Tivos are so slow and unreliable these days, I think they should be scrapped without delay!

denphone 19-08-2017 20:33

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913323)
Frankly, the old Tivos are so slow and unreliable these days, I think they should be scrapped without delay!

You just can't scrap them willy nilly just like that as even if they announced the end of it tomorrow it would be quite a few years before all their customers had the V6 box as their STB..

jj20x 19-08-2017 20:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913323)
Frankly, the old Tivos are so slow and unreliable these days, I think they should be scrapped without delay!

A bit clunky and slow loading on demand content but I've not had any major problems with reliability.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35913326)
You just can't scrap them willy nilly just like that as even if they announced the end of it tomorrow it would be quite a few years before all their customers had the V6 box as their STB..

A major headache for anyone using the Tivo to store content to watch over a long term. Especially where the content isn't routinely repeated.

RichardCoulter 19-08-2017 21:14

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35913317)
It's V6 only isn't it? which is an interesting move. Maybe commencing the end-of-life phase for the legacy Tivo boxes.

I didn't know it wasn't on the TiVo. Sounds like VM are starting to do what they did to V+ customers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913323)
Frankly, the old Tivos are so slow and unreliable these days, I think they should be scrapped without delay!

They're probably alright as a second box eg in a bedroom for watching the odd programme, but useless to use as a full time main box. Out of interest, are they any faster for those who have hooked them up to a V6?

I find it interesting that the V6 was primarily named as such, without the TiVo branding. I think Horizon software could be on the horizon!

Mr K 19-08-2017 21:30

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913323)
Frankly, the old Tivos are so slow and unreliable these days, I think they should be scrapped without delay!

Sticking with mine OB. That extra scart output is ever so handy and I've never filled more than half of it up. My VHD in the bedroom is staying too, no hard drive equals no noise and a peaceful night.

OLD BOY 20-08-2017 00:42

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35913344)
Sticking with mine OB. That extra scart output is ever so handy and I've never filled more than half of it up. My VHD in the bedroom is staying too, no hard drive equals no noise and a peaceful night.

Yes, I suppose that just replacing them all will cause problems for some subscribers.

I don't think that old Tivo boxes should be replaced by anything other than V6s though, unless specifically requested by the customer. As long as the old Tivos are out there, they will be an embarrassment to Virgin.

denphone 20-08-2017 06:26

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913354)
Yes, I suppose that just replacing them all will cause problems for some subscribers.

I don't think that old Tivo boxes should be replaced by anything other than V6s though, unless specifically requested by the customer. As long as the old Tivos are out there, they will be an embarrassment to Virgin.

More hyperbolated nonsense l see OB as we have one in our bedroom and it just work fine and dandy.

telegramsam 20-08-2017 08:48

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When I was with Virgin my Tivo box worked fine for me,a bit slow granted but still OK as far as I'm concerned.

oliver1948uk 20-08-2017 09:15

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I have an old TiVo, usually over 90 per cent full. It is a bit slow to respond sometimes but otherwise it is reliable and a valued piece of kit. It is often used for Netflix as well as recording programmes to watch later.
My only complaint is the lack of dynamic EPG. Once again the recording of Casualty was messed up last night. Presumably that applied to V6 too

Mr K 20-08-2017 10:38

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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35913373)
I have an old TiVo, usually over 90 per cent full. It is a bit slow to respond sometimes but otherwise it is reliable and a valued piece of kit. It is often used for Netflix as well as recording programmes to watch later.
My only complaint is the lack of dynamic EPG. Once again the recording of Casualty was messed up last night. Presumably that applied to V6 too

Yes. it weird cable boxes are unable to do that. Yet my freeview recorder which is 10 years old, adjusts exactly to when programmes start/finish.

OLD BOY 20-08-2017 10:52

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35913382)
Yes. it weird cable boxes are unable to do that. Yet my freeview recorder which is 10 years old, adjusts exactly to when programmes start/finish.

As does mine. On balance, I must admit I do like the dynamic EPG.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35913365)
More hyperbolated nonsense l see OB as we have one in our bedroom and it just work fine and dandy.

Well, you must be one of the lucky ones, Den. You've heard all the complaints about the Tivo on here, so you know that a great many people have not regarded their Tivos as 'fine and dandy'! It was great when it first came out but I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole now.

denphone 20-08-2017 11:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913384)
As does mine. On balance, I must admit I do like the dynamic EPG.

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Well, you must be one of the lucky ones, Den. You've heard all the complaints about the Tivo on here, so you know that a great many people have not regarded their Tivos as 'fine and dandy'! It was great when it first came out but I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole now.

Cable Forum does not represent the vast majority of Tivo users OB and you would be foolish to believe it does.

oliver1948uk 20-08-2017 13:11

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To me it is absolutely beyond belief that even the V6 does not have a dynamic EPG especially as VM are so pathetic at changing the guide even when they have 24 hours or more notice

RobboEdin 20-08-2017 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35913400)
To me it is absolutely beyond belief that even the V6 does not have a dynamic EPG especially as VM are so pathetic at changing the guide even when they have 24 hours or more notice

The reason for this has been discussed many times before on the Virgin Media forum. Don't expect to get a dynamic EPG ever with TiVo software.
If a dynamic EPG is important to you then you will need to use a different provider.
Personally, I simply watched the late-running Casualty on BBC iPlayer.

oliver1948uk 20-08-2017 13:35

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Does Horizon software have a dynamic EPG? If so I hope VM get it soon instead of TiVo. As I have suggestions turned off I am not sure what advantage TiVo software has for me

OLD BOY 20-08-2017 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35913403)
Does Horizon software have a dynamic EPG? If so I hope VM get it soon instead of TiVo. As I have suggestions turned off I am not sure what advantage TiVo software has for me

You can always switch Suggestions on again. ;)

Do you not ever bookmark programmes from On Demand and Netflix? I find that extremely useful and a good way of remembering where I am with all the different programmes I watch.

theone2k10 20-08-2017 15:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35913400)
To me it is absolutely beyond belief that even the V6 does not have a dynamic EPG especially as VM are so pathetic at changing the guide even when they have 24 hours or more notice

Virgin media yesterdays technology today.

denphone 20-08-2017 16:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35913422)
Virgin media yesterdays technology today.

:rofl::rofl:

Ddonald2016 20-08-2017 16:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35913422)
Virgin media yesterdays technology today.

I agree tbe v6 is a good box but soon it will be become clunky. They need to update boxes a bit more and try to get features people want

oliver1948uk 20-08-2017 17:15

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My ideal feature (which I doubt any box has at present) is that when you see a future programme advertised between programmes you are viewing, clicking on the advert will automatically set it to record when it is broadcast

theone2k10 20-08-2017 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35913437)
My ideal feature (which I doubt any box has at present) is that when you see a future programme advertised between programmes you are viewing, clicking on the advert will automatically set it to record when it is broadcast

I think SKY do this with their reminder service you click the green button then it sets it to record, if a series you can series link it too.

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Sources tell me 2 new channels are expected on vm by end of Autumn 2017 these channels are,
Frontrunner
Frontrunner 2

OLD BOY 20-08-2017 18:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35913427)
I agree tbe v6 is a good box but soon it will be become clunky. They need to update boxes a bit more and try to get features people want

I think most most people are happy with their V6s - the main issue is content, although their is plenty to feast on with Netflix included.

The lack of Sky Atlantic is an important omission, and of course Amazon is also something which would provide VM with the edge, I think.

I hope and trust that the V6 will never get clunky like the old Tivo - VM should have learned their lesson from that experience!

Gavin-D 20-08-2017 19:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913449)
I think most most people are happy with their V6s - the main issue is content, although their is plenty to feast on with Netflix included.

The lack of Sky Atlantic is an important omission, and of course Amazon is also something which would provide VM with the edge, I think.

I hope and trust that the V6 will never get clunky like the old Tivo - VM should have learned their lesson from that experience!


Getting the Amazon app would also open up more 4K/UHD content as well

OLD BOY 21-08-2017 08:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35913456)
Getting the Amazon app would also open up more 4K/UHD content as well

I know. It's a no-brainer for Virgin, really. I hope they manage to persuade Liberty Global of the sense of this, and soon.

muppetman11 21-08-2017 09:48

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Or just access it on one of the other many devices.:D

OLD BOY 21-08-2017 10:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35913494)
Or just access it on one of the other many devices.:D

Which of course will not bring all the shows you are watching from various OTT services into your list of recordings.

denphone 21-08-2017 11:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35913494)
Or just access it on one of the other many devices.:D

Which of course he preaches the gospel on but alas struggles to do it himself.;)

RichardCoulter 21-08-2017 13:32

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Channel 5 changed its schedule yesterday evening to accommodate the life story of Bruce Forsythe

I had set the original programme to record, so it recorded this with the new title. The EPG, however, was still showing the previous schedule!?l?

OLD BOY 21-08-2017 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35913506)
Which of course he preaches the gospel on but alas struggles to do it himself.;)

I have all my Netflix material that I've selected in 'My Shows'

Obviously I cannot do that with Amazon material as it is not supported by VM.

denphone 21-08-2017 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913526)
I have all my Netflix material that I've selected in 'My Shows'

Obviously I cannot do that with Amazon material as it is not supported by VM.

Have you not got a smart TV or other relevant avenues where you can access Amazon on OB?.

Media Boy UK 21-08-2017 16:01

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We see Virgin UK Channel 106 (BBC Three) has been removed from the EPG.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35913131)
Confirmed:. Freesports coming to VM:

https://www.freesports.tv

Good if true.

Maybe Virgin Media UK will carry Premier Sports HD as well.

Calling JJ20X.

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a516Digital is reporting that Norwich's local TV channel Mustard TV is being sold That's TV.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/08/n...o-be-sold.html

denphone 21-08-2017 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913535)
We see Virgin UK Channel 106 (BBC Three) has been removed from the EPG

Perhaps a nice pleasant surprise is coming to channel 106..;):D

Media Boy UK 21-08-2017 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35913540)
Perhaps a nice pleasant surprise is coming to channel 106..;):D

Denphone TV!:D

gba93 21-08-2017 16:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913541)
Denphone TV!:D

I'm excited for that :hyper::hyper:

denphone 21-08-2017 16:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913541)
Denphone TV!:D

A humble untalented chap like me is not worthy of that MB as may l suggest Muppetman or Old Boy :nworthy::nworthy: going forward for putting their weighty gravitas behind the channel as they will pull in the punters as they flock to hear their wise pearls of wisdom.:D:D:D

Media Boy UK 21-08-2017 16:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35913544)
A humble untalented chap like me is not worthy of that MB as may l suggest Muppetman or Old Boy :nworthy::nworthy: going forward for putting their weighty gravitas behind the channel as they will pull in the punters as they flock to hear their wise pearls of wisdom.:D:D:D

We still think Channel 106 will be use for Local TV Channels.

If you know PM us.

jj20x 21-08-2017 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913535)
We see Virgin UK Channel 106 (BBC Three) has been removed from the EPG.

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Good if true.

Maybe Virgin Media UK will carry Premier Sports HD as well.

Calling JJ20X.

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a516Digital is reporting that Norwich's local TV channel Mustard TV is being sold That's TV.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/08/n...o-be-sold.html

That's TV's policy of not adding local TV channels to VM is being diluted as they buy out smaller independents which are already carried on VM.

There's not much to report from scan data, I was told over the weekend that the mid month scan update had been postponed as there had been so few changes. The only changes of note at the weekend were the temporary relay of MTV Live HD on EPG channel 100 for V Festival coverage and a new "PPV Slate", which is apparently only available on some of VM's internal networks. Each new service added to VM is given a sequential ID number in the SDT, but the ID number given to the PPV Slate skipped a number. Maybe indicating that some other service had been scheduled to have been added at the same time?

Other than that, there were changes to the linkage section of the NIT (set top box updates etc) and "1 bit" changes to BT / Sky sports channels in the SDT. These are routine changes and beyond the scope of this thread.

Media Boy UK 21-08-2017 19:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35913551)
a new "PPV Slate", which is apparently only available on some of VM's internal networks. Each new service added to VM is given a sequential ID number in the SDT, but the ID number given to the PPV Slate skipped a number. Maybe indicating that some other service had been scheduled to have been added at the same time?

Maybe BoxNation HD is testing.

We got Sky Sports Box Office and ITV Box Office right now.

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WorldBox update:

Spanish Pack:
--MIS - Is no longer broadcasting in the UK.
--Star TVE HD (Coming soon)

jj20x 21-08-2017 19:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913559)
Maybe BoxNation HD is testing.

We got Sky Sports Box Office and ITV Box Office right now.

The PPV Slate is on TSID 44, which is basically used for app slates (You Tube, Netflix, Worldbox etc) and "Channel Moved" slates, it is also used for pop-up channels such as additional BBC Red Button services. It could be used as a holding slot for PPV events I suppose. More info as I get it...

Media Boy UK 21-08-2017 20:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35913566)
The PPV Slate is on TSID 44, which is basically used for app slates (You Tube, Netflix, Worldbox etc) and "Channel Moved" slates, it is also used for pop-up channels such as additional BBC Red Button services. It could be used as a holding slot for PPV events I suppose. More info as I get it...

We just found out that BoxNation do not have an PPV Channel just an part time HD Channel.

Only PPV Channels are Sky Sports Box Office or ITV Box Office (Virgin have them right now).

Outwith that are only Adult channels that offer PPV Channels right now on Sky.

jj20x 21-08-2017 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913570)
We just found out that BoxNation do not have an PPV Channel just an part time HD Channel.

Only PPV Channels are Sky Sports Box Office or ITV Box Office (Virgin have them right now).

Outwith that are only Adult channels that offer PPV Channels right now on Sky.

Yes, BoxNation HD is only part time.

Breaking news: MTV Beats has been added to the SDT.

theone2k10 21-08-2017 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35913540)
Perhaps a nice pleasant surprise is coming to channel 106..;):D

Yeah a price rise :p:

Mad Max 21-08-2017 21:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913546)
We still think Channel 106 will be use for Local TV Channels.

If you know PM us.


Christ they know how to spoil us.............:rolleyes:

Media Boy UK 21-08-2017 22:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35913582)
Breaking news: MTV Beats has been added to the SDT.

Thanks for info.

That DNP order has not been lifted it some other channels.

Is FreeSports on the SDT?

Waiting on information from our sources.

jj20x 21-08-2017 23:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913604)
Is FreeSports on the SDT?

SDT changes since the weekend were the removal of BBC Three, the addition of MTV Beats and service name changes from Sky Hero to Sky Star Wars (SD & HD versions). FreeSports wasn't listed, if it appears on the raw scan data over the next few days, I'll post the details on this thread.

Media Boy UK 22-08-2017 00:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35913607)
SDT changes since the weekend were the removal of BBC Three, the addition of MTV Beats and service name changes from Sky Hero to Sky Star Wars (SD & HD versions). FreeSports wasn't listed, if it appears on the raw scan data over the next few days, I'll post the details on this thread.

Thanks for update.

jj20x 22-08-2017 01:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913608)
Thanks for update.

No problem.

MTV Beats is on TS ID 18 with a service ID of 1812.

Testing on EPG slot 841 in the International section of the EPG. It has flags for the Mix, M+, L/Fun & XL/Full House packs.

It is testing on 5 internal VM networks.

OLD BOY 22-08-2017 08:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35913529)
Have you not got a smart TV or other relevant avenues where you can access Amazon on OB?.

Den, I can access Amazon without any problem on my Smart TV and on Roku.

My point is, and this is what you don't seem to be grasping, ;) is that I want all the stuff that I am viewing or want to view on 'My Shows' on the V6. I can do that with Netflix, which is supported by VM, but not with Amazon.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913604)
Thanks for info.

That DNP order has not been lifted it some other channels.

Is FreeSports on the SDT?

Waiting on information from our sources.

Why do I get the feeling that these DNP orders you currently have are going to be one big disappointment...? :geez:

denphone 22-08-2017 08:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913619)
Den, I can access Amazon without any problem on my Smart TV and on Roku.

My point is, and this is what you don't seem to be grasping, ;) is that I want all the stuff that I am viewing or want to view on 'My Shows' on the V6. I can do that with Netflix, which is supported by VM, but not with Amazon.

l grasp fully what you are saying OB but your stance is full of contradictions based on your constant portrayal that Linear TV is dying and that you have many other ways to access good streaming content so what is the problem as others don't seem to moan about that situation as you know as well as l know that Amazon and Now TV are not coming to Virgin anytime soon.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913619)
Den, I can access Amazon without any problem on my Smart TV and on Roku.

My point is, and this is what you don't seem to be grasping, ;) is that I want all the stuff that I am viewing or want to view on 'My Shows' on the V6. I can do that with Netflix, which is supported by VM, but not with Amazon.

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Why do I get the feeling that these DNP orders you currently have are going to be one big disappointment...? :geez:

Perhaps you need to look into your crystal ball again.;)

vincerooney 22-08-2017 10:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35913619)
Den, I can access Amazon without any problem on my Smart TV and on Roku.

My point is, and this is what you don't seem to be grasping, ;) is that I want all the stuff that I am viewing or want to view on 'My Shows' on the V6. I can do that with Netflix, which is supported by VM, but not with Amazon.

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Why do I get the feeling that these DNP orders you currently have are going to be one big disappointment...? :geez:

Sky Atlantic, That ITV channel we don't have, Fox news and every remaining channel which is on sky which we don't have, Oh and AMC and a virgin media exclusive HBO channel. Also all the american channels like NBC, FOX, CBS etc so we can watch american tv live

I imagine its all these channels and they're launching within the hour.

Am i close?

theone2k10 22-08-2017 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35913634)
Sky Atlantic, That ITV channel we don't have, Fox news and every remaining channel which is on sky which we don't have, Oh and AMC and a virgin media exclusive HBO channel. Also all the american channels like NBC, FOX, CBS etc so we can watch american tv live

I imagine its all these channels and they're launching within the hour.

Am i close?

You forgot CW, freeform,abc,fx and torque

jj20x 22-08-2017 13:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35913640)
You forgot CW, freeform,abc,fx and torque

And don't forget the Australian, Canadian and NZ networks...

Shortland Street anyone?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35913566)
The PPV Slate is on TSID 44, which is basically used for app slates (You Tube, Netflix, Worldbox etc) and "Channel Moved" slates, it is also used for pop-up channels such as additional BBC Red Button services. It could be used as a holding slot for PPV events I suppose. More info as I get it...

This was rolled out across the network on Monday, it is flagged as hidden and parked on EPG channel number 31. So it appears to be a slate that will be shown on PPV streams when the PPV content isn't active. (Similar to the Channel Off Air Slate.)

theone2k10 22-08-2017 14:28

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DNP has been lifted but hey what do i know eh so not even going to bother mentioning.
MB will know probably he is the only one in the know afterall according to one or two here.

OLD BOY 22-08-2017 17:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35913634)
Sky Atlantic, That ITV channel we don't have, Fox news and every remaining channel which is on sky which we don't have, Oh and AMC and a virgin media exclusive HBO channel. Also all the american channels like NBC, FOX, CBS etc so we can watch american tv live

I imagine its all these channels and they're launching within the hour.

Am i close?

None of these, sadly. :(

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35913621)
l grasp fully what you are saying OB but your stance is full of contradictions based on your constant portrayal that Linear TV is dying and that you have many other ways to access good streaming content so what is the problem as others don't seem to moan about that situation as you know as well as l know that Amazon and Now TV are not coming to Virgin anytime soon.

Er, when did I say that linear TV (from which I take it we are referring to the traditional broadcast channels) are dying? And what has that to do with my post about Amazon not appearing on the V6? You keep saying that there are many ways to access Amazon, and of course you are correct in saying that. In fact I have three ways of accessing it right now. However, none of these methods allow me to bookmark Amazon content in 'My Shows' on the V6. That, and that alone, is my point.

There is no contradiction in my message, Den, but you do seem to be confusing completely what I have said.

Just for the record, I have said that the future of TV is on demand/streaming services, which is supported by many people in the industry. For now, the conventional channels are thriving, but this will not last. My view that linear channels will die off is based on what I believe will have happened by about 2036. So not to worry, we're not there yet and you can rest easy! :Sun: [/QUOTE]

Chad 22-08-2017 18:52

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Willy waiving and handbags at dawn. I'll give it to you guys, you make your point and stick to your guys. Keeps the thread active and lively.

Just a wee update. Next month Boxnation was supposed to offer their first PPV event. On SKY Boxnation HD doubles up as their PPV channel. Subscribers to Boxnation get the HD channel at no additional charge. Those without a Boxnation subscription can watch fights on the channel on a PPV basis. It's a weird set up. I thought Boxnation HD might launch on Virgin Media ahead of September's PPV show however I've seen suggestions the fight will air on BT Sport and Boxnation. Looks like no PPV after all. Could mean Boxnation HD still no closer to being on Virgin Media.... yet

RichardCoulter 22-08-2017 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35913684)
Willy waiving and handbags at dawn. I'll give it to you guys, you make your point and stick to your guys. Keeps the thread active and lively.

Just a wee update. Next month Boxnation was supposed to offer their first PPV event. On SKY Boxnation HD doubles up as their PPV channel. Subscribers to Boxnation get the HD channel at no additional charge. Those without a Boxnation subscription can watch fights on the channel on a PPV basis. It's a weird set up. I thought Boxnation HD might launch on Virgin Media ahead of September's PPV show however I've seen suggestions the fight will air on BT Sport and Boxnation. Looks like no PPV after all. Could mean Boxnation HD still no closer to being on Virgin Media.... yet

Maybe this is what the PPV slate that jj20x has spotted?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35913609)
No problem.

MTV Beats is on TS ID 18 with a service ID of 1812.

Testing on EPG slot 841 in the International section of the EPG. It has flags for the Mix, M+, L/Fun & XL/Full House packs.

It is testing on 5 internal VM networks.

It's a Hindi music channel, so I guess that's why it's in the international section as opposed to the music genre.

Perhaps VM have signed a new deal with Viacom.

I wonder why they put the V Festival on Ch 100? Maybe it's simply just for extra exposure as VM have sponsored it, or does it allow those in lower packs to view it??

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913604)
Thanks for info.

That DNP order has not been lifted it some other channels.

Is FreeSports on the SDT?

Waiting on information from our sources.

Freesports has just started testing on satellite (where I believe VM will be getting their feed), so VM haven't been able to start testing thus far. I think that we might see something very soon now that VM are able to start tests as the channel starts at the end of this month.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35913535)
a516Digital is reporting that Norwich's local TV channel Mustard TV is being sold That's TV.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/08/n...o-be-sold.html

From what I've read, That's TV seem to survive my simulcasting Talking Pictures with a short local news bulletin repeated throughout the day.

On one occasion, it was reported that they had Mondays news on a Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday! On the Thursday, Norwich viewers were given the news from York!!

I guess one positive thing is that (depending on the Freeview tx arrangements in the Norwich area), some people may now be able to receive Talking Pictures if they can't receive the temporary HD muxes.

jj20x 22-08-2017 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35913659)
DNP has been lifted but hey what do i know eh so not even going to bother mentioning.
MB will know probably he is the only one in the know afterall according to one or two here.

Oh go on... shock us. :p:

1andrew1 22-08-2017 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35913659)
DNP has been lifted but hey what do i know eh so not even going to bother mentioning.
MB will know probably he is the only one in the know afterall according to one or two here.

Spill the beans The One! Hard day at work for most of us including your good self no doubt so we need something to gladden our hearts or to whinge about. It could be you that does it! :angel:

jj20x 22-08-2017 22:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35913685)
Maybe this is what the PPV slate that jj20x has spotted?

At the moment it's just a slate. When I initially found out about it I asked the guy who did the scan if he could take a look at the slate to see what it says. Unfortunately, it is encrypted.

Quote:

It's a Hindi music channel, so I guess that's why it's in the international section as opposed to the music genre.

Perhaps VM have signed a new deal with Viacom.

I wonder why they put the V Festival on Ch 100? Maybe it's simply just for extra exposure as VM have sponsored it, or does it allow those in lower packs to view it??
Yeah I know it is a Hindi channel, it's exactly where I expected it to be. The "International section" is taken from a field in the EPG descriptor in the SDT.

I'm not sure if this would be a deal with Viacom or with Viacom 18, I just know I would prefer to have MTV Classic added.

Channel 100 is available to all viewers so yes, it does give extra exposure to the V Festival and to MTV Live.

Aguero9320 22-08-2017 22:11

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MTV Beats would probably be linked to Viacom18.

We may even get Colors HD, Rishtey Cineplex and News 18 as part of the deal too.

jj20x 22-08-2017 22:15

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35913685)
From what I've read, That's TV seem to survive my simulcasting Talking Pictures with a short local news bulletin repeated throughout the day.

On one occasion, it was reported that they had Mondays news on a Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday! On the Thursday, Norwich viewers were given the news from York!!

I guess one positive thing is that (depending on the Freeview tx arrangements in the Norwich area), some people may now be able to receive Talking Pictures if they can't receive the temporary HD muxes.

I think Norwich is still taking the original service. I believe that the new Scarborough service has been getting the news from That's York. They renamed That's Scarborough to That's North Yorkshire at launch. Indicating that they possibly plan to merge the areas. So much for "local".

The temp HD muxes serving Norwich from Tacolneston should have better coverage than the local mux.

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35913713)
MTV Beats would probably be linked to Viacom18.

We may even get Colors HD, Rishtey Cineplex and News 18 as part of the deal too.

It is linked to Viacom18 but Viacom may be negotiating on their behalf.

I would have expected Colors HD & Rishtey Cineplex to have been added at the same time if they were included in the deal. One to watch. :D

theone2k10 22-08-2017 23:03

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35913710)
Oh go on... shock us. :p:

OK this is still at rumour stage VM have apparantly nailed a deal with Cinemax and Starz to bring on demand content to the vm platform.
TCM OD also set to launch on vm it is not a exclusive as BT have this on their platform.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35913711)
Spill the beans The One! Hard day at work for most of us including your good self no doubt so we need something to gladden our hearts or to whinge about. It could be you that does it! :angel:

Sadly my friend i am off work for awhile due to illness.

1andrew1 23-08-2017 00:08

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35913717)
OK this is still at rumour stage VM have apparantly nailed a deal with Cinemax and Starz to bring on demand content to the vm platform.
TCM OD also set to launch on vm it is not a exclusive as BT have this on their platform.

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Sadly my friend i am off work for awhile due to illness.

I hope you get better soon.
Thanks for the tip-off, theone, both rumours sound quite likely to me.

jj20x 23-08-2017 01:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35913717)
OK this is still at rumour stage VM have apparantly nailed a deal with Cinemax and Starz to bring on demand content to the vm platform.
TCM OD also set to launch on vm it is not a exclusive as BT have this on their platform.

Should be good if it makes it past the rumour stage.

OLD BOY 23-08-2017 10:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35913717)
OK this is still at rumour stage VM have apparantly nailed a deal with Cinemax and Starz to bring on demand content to the vm platform.
TCM OD also set to launch on vm it is not a exclusive as BT have this on their platform.

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Sadly my friend i am off work for awhile due to illness.

Thank you for the info, theone.

Sorry to hear that you are ill. We all hope you get better soon! :ghugs:

theone2k10 23-08-2017 13:24

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Thankyou for the kind words guys.


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