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Ddonald2016 09-12-2016 15:08

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35874780)
Sorry if it's already been posted, but for you guys with the latest AV amps, it supports Dolby Atmos. Does Netflix support that? As someone with a 5.1 setup, I don't pay much attention to Dolby Atmos and DTS:X news.

Just remember if you dont subscribe to current netflix to access 4k on tivo you need to give netflix £8.99 a month or you will rely on youtube

Ultimate.Conj 09-12-2016 15:08

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35874780)
Sorry if it's already been posted, but for you guys with the latest AV amps, it supports Dolby Atmos. Does Netflix support that? As someone with a 5.1 setup, I don't pay much attention to Dolby Atmos and DTS:X news.

I'm pretty sure Netflix 4K content does, not sure about HD stuff.

Mythica 09-12-2016 15:14

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Just been reading the Virgin community forums and I found something I found interesting that I don't think has been confirmed before. The second V6 Box is free on VIP.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...s/td-p/3277509

"Hello,

Thanks for your posts, I'm sorry that there's been some confusion around the cost of a second V6 box.

If you're on the VIP package, a second box is free.

On the Full House 200, Full House 100 or any other package, it's £49.95 for the second box.

For a third box, on all packages, the cost is £99.95.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,

Terri

Virgin Media Forum Team"

I'm guessing that's why some users including myself are getting two V6s for £64.94.

Ultimate.Conj 09-12-2016 15:26

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Thanks for the confirmation.
They did say I was getting two V6s for £64.94, but they didn't say the 2nd box was free lol

Rob King 09-12-2016 15:45

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35874790)
Thanks for the confirmation.
They did say I was getting two V6s for £64.94, but they didn't say the 2nd box was free lol

you should have asked them for the Activation fee free i got a discount yesterday when i ordered my v6 box

Gavin-D 09-12-2016 15:47

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Registered my interest ages ago for the box still not had a call or e-mail from VM how many on here are still waiting?

markliffen@googl 09-12-2016 15:57

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Just rang up.and got a credit on my account so I'm now paying 64.95 for 2x v6 boxes

denphone 09-12-2016 16:11

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35874795)
Registered my interest ages ago for the box still not had a call or e-mail from VM how many on here are still waiting?

We are.

mcgillca 09-12-2016 17:07

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Can anyone with a V6 box let me know if the box will still respond to IR signals? I use Slingplayer to control my current Tivo remotely, but this uses IR.

I've seen info in this thread that it will respond to both IR and RF, but when I talked to Virgin, they told me that the V6 box does not have an IR sensor, so I'd have to keep my current Tivo to continue to use Slingplayer.

Colin

djs9750 09-12-2016 17:46

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markliffen@googl (Post 35874797)
Just rang up.and got a credit on my account so I'm now paying 64.95 for 2x v6 boxes

I phoned as well and after being told I was to pay 114.89 the guy checked my order and originally said I was being charged 104.94, made up of 14.99 activation, 40.00 install charge and 49.95 for my box which was discounted 50.00, so he said I was getting a free box. I then mentioned that I thought the 40.00 wasn't being charged and he said he had just found a 40.00 credit on the order and the price was actually 64.94. I was told he put notes on my account that I had queried the cost and that it should be 64.94 for two boxes and that if I got asked for any other cost I was to phone back and it would be sorted.
Sounds like they are having a nightmare with costs and prices.

RobboEdin 09-12-2016 17:59

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgillca (Post 35874804)
Can anyone with a V6 box let me know if the box will still respond to IR signals? I use Slingplayer to control my current Tivo remotely, but this uses IR.

I've seen info in this thread that it will respond to both IR and RF, but when I talked to Virgin, they told me that the V6 box does not have an IR sensor, so I'd have to keep my current Tivo to continue to use Slingplayer.

Colin

Yes, the V6 still responds to the old remote so you're OK.

RichardCoulter 09-12-2016 18:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35874811)
Yes, the V6 still responds to the old remote so you're OK.

Yep, the installer let me keep mine as a spare.

Perhaps when our old TiVos are redistributed they will get new remotes.

Joedm45 09-12-2016 18:41

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35874812)

Perhaps when our old TiVos are redistributed they will get new remotes.

I would hope so if the remote is anything like mine, arrows all worn out and text on a couple of buttons worn.

I know I wouldn't be impressed if a replacement or new box came with that remote :erm:

busboy125 09-12-2016 19:00

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Does this look right;

djs9750 09-12-2016 20:17

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Confirmation of my price just received
Other items & charges (these charges will appear on your first bill)
* indicated items included on your package price.
* Activation Fee
* Manned Installation Charge
* V6 Box Activation Fee
* Virgin V6 Activation Fee*
£64.94
Contract signed and confirmed, better in my pocket.

Mad Max 09-12-2016 20:48

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by busboy125 (Post 35874823)
Does this look right;

Looks like it could be mate..

Paddy63 09-12-2016 23:09

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 35874768)
Wow I am back in the 90s, I remember the good old days with Scart :-)

Quick question for everyone here. Just got my new contract through to sign. One item on it is Leapfrog Additional Tbr* ... Any idea what that is?!

Leapfrog was the code name given to the V6 when it was trialled

RB2004 09-12-2016 23:48

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I still haven't received my order confirmation showing the credits applied to my account.

All I've received tonight is a new contract to digitally sign showing new monthly amount, also shows the activation charges... but no credits shown on it.

Don't want to sign it until I know its been credited.

Was expecting an email looking like this,



http://cableforum.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=35873984&postcount=1895


Showing charges and credits.

but instead so far only have email like this,

http://cableforum.co.uk/board/showpo...postcount=2214

which only shows charges?

OhReally 10-12-2016 02:41

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35874742)
This forum went mental overnight, what has happened??

Reading all the comments about SCARTS, VHS, archiving, it's like being taken back to the dark ages lol

I've had my say on SCART and old tech...I'm looking forward to 4K UHD programming and you guys still using SCART to get TV around the house lol...couldn't make it up in 2016.

Ditch the old kit, and get with the times :-)
There is no possible argument that will convince me that people still need SCART cables and to archive programmes they will never watch again...jeez, waste of time :-)

We'll ditch perfectly working kit that gets around ludicrous artificial restrictions when YOU pony up the money for us to do so....

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35874744)
[snip]
Please tell me you have a HD tv :D

Because you can't buy anything else...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by philipp (Post 35874755)
Can someone explain the pricing (excluding activation / box charges) fully.

Currently we pay £137.73 which has a £18.25 loyality discount so in fact its 155.58

Without appearing too personal, are you mental?

On what planet does paying £1800 a year for phone, internet and tv make ANY SENSE at all :shocked:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35874785)

Why do you want to archive things? What do you archive?

So I can watch it at ANY TIME in the future, on my schedule, regardless of whether or not VM deem to allow it to be available.

The alternative is to ditch TV (which we did) and simply download it instead, with the added bonus of NO ADVERTS :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by djs9750 (Post 35874810)
[snip]
Sounds like they are having a nightmare with costs and prices.

Are you really surprised, really?

awesometeeth 10-12-2016 03:09

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
ive got one coming next week I think. so didnt realise you can watch recordings on your tablet, is this going to be severely limited due to licensing or will I be able to watch most of the stuff I record?

Ddonald2016 10-12-2016 12:14

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by awesometeeth (Post 35874891)
ive got one coming next week I think. so didnt realise you can watch recordings on your tablet, is this going to be severely limited due to licensing or will I be able to watch most of the stuff I record?

Sadly Virgin won't tell us but I aim to find out Wednesday

muppetman11 10-12-2016 12:35

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35874914)
Sadly Virgin won't tell us but I aim to find out Wednesday

Surely some already know , RobboEdin already has one surely he can advise you.

nomadking 10-12-2016 13:18

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by awesometeeth (Post 35874891)
ive got one coming next week I think. so didnt realise you can watch recordings on your tablet, is this going to be severely limited due to licensing or will I be able to watch most of the stuff I record?

Don't see why it should be restricted as the source of the programme is still the Tivo. The tablet is just the display device.

muppetman11 10-12-2016 13:37

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fenman35 (Post 35874530)
The Sky Q is still a 'work in progress' with many bugs and foibles. True it has UHD on sports channels but this is via an app and you cant rewind a live match to check incidents that occur. I have read that UHD is also not 'full fat' UHD but described as UHD light but i am not able to understand the technical points raised

It's funny that as I'm currently watching the Watford v Everton game in UHD and have the full use of pause , rewind etc.

BenMcr 10-12-2016 14:08

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by awesometeeth (Post 35874891)
ive got one coming next week I think. so didnt realise you can watch recordings on your tablet, is this going to be severely limited due to licensing or will I be able to watch most of the stuff I record?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35874914)
Sadly Virgin won't tell us but I aim to find out Wednesday

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35874916)
Surely some already know , RobboEdin already has one surely he can advise you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35874917)
Don't see why it should be restricted as the source of the programme is still the Tivo. The tablet is just the display device.

The available channels and programmes are in the help articles:

Watch TV using the Virgin TV Anywhere app for Android

Watch TV using the Virgin TV Anywhere app for iPad, iPhone and iPod touch

Quote:

Below is a quick guide to what recorded shows you can watch. We'll update this list as more channels are added. How many shows are available to stream or download varies by channel.

muppetman11 10-12-2016 14:48

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I'm confused by that as under streaming recordings or download it doesn't list any Sky channels however I'm sure people had said previously they could box to box stream on Sky channels.

Is that just a restriction on tablet/smartphones or is it box to box also.

BenMcr 10-12-2016 15:01

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
The lists are purely for the app.

Box to Box streaming availability is different, and I don't believe there are any main restrictions (though individual shows may still be blocked).

fenman35 10-12-2016 15:04

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35874922)
It's funny that as I'm currently watching the Watford v Everton game in UHD and have the full use of pause , rewind etc.

Well I have just tried it and it will not rewind or fast foward, I can pause however

Ed92uk 10-12-2016 15:08

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I have just ordered my V6 which will be installed on 6th January.

It was hard work though to explain to the advisor and I'm not sure where some of the prices were coming from. I presume I will receive a confirmation email I can double check everything.

I got the box for the £64.99 which sounds right but the advisor initially said £150 then when pushed oh yes I can apply a discount just for today of £40 install and then we can half the upgrade fee on your account.

The other issue is my monthly fee has gone up by £20. I was told this was for keeping my old TiVo and then having the new v6 so does that sound right an extra £20 for a second box? Iv only ever had one TiVo but it would be nice to hook up in the bedroom. Is that worth £20 a month though I'm not convinced.

Unable to add homeworks 300 until after v6 install when I have to phone back (anyone else got v6 and 300?).

Finally the very last sentence the advisor said was oh the price we have agreed on xx a month I have some wonderful news I can discount that for 12 months by £5 for you... i replied that's great and then he slipped in (as I was expecting) that would be a new contract. I'm sure most people can handle that but I did think it was a bit sneaky right at the end of the call as if it's a personal favour for you.

muppetman11 10-12-2016 15:10

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fenman35 (Post 35874937)
Well I have just tried it and it will not rewind or fast foward, I can pause however

From the home screen

Goto Sport - Ultra HD then select the game and it works

It will only start the buffer from when you start watching , although a restart feature will start from next year.

jpa 10-12-2016 15:25

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Just phoned up and got an installation of the V6 for February 10th at £64.95, I have asked for a Cancellation as well so hopefully I will get that, the quicker the better.

fenman35 10-12-2016 15:42

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35874940)
From the home screen

Goto Sport - Ultra HD then select the game and it works

It will only start the buffer from when you start watching , although a restart feature will start from next year.

I just tried it via the sports-uhd route and I could rewind but trying again it did not work and a message came up 'you can't pause or rewind this programme'
A third attempt it again worked OK. Going via the live programme then red button does not work.

Like I orginally said Sky Q has many bugs!

muppetman11 10-12-2016 15:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fenman35 (Post 35874943)
I just tried it via the sports-uhd route and I could rewind but trying again it did not work and a message came up 'you can't pause or rewind this programme'
A third attempt it again worked OK. Going via the live programme then red button does not work.

Like I orginally said Sky Q has many bugs!

All systems have bugs but your original point was incorrect the ability to rewind in live games is there and works without issue here.

Is your Iphone or Android phone bug free do you expect the V6 to be completely bug free ? The existing Tivo and Sky+HD still have bugs it's inevitable problems will be found you simply can't recreate every individuals home setup on testing.

It would be a lot easier if everybody connected their box direct to a tv but nowadays many use soundbars , AV receivers etc making testing every connection scenario impossible.

Ddonald2016 10-12-2016 17:51

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35874932)
I'm confused by that as under streaming recordings or download it doesn't list any Sky channels however I'm sure people had said previously they could box to box stream on Sky channels.

Is that just a restriction on tablet/smartphones or is it box to box also.

Basically any sky channels from living to one to two and more, can't have downloads sent to our box that is a hell of a restriction compared to sky q

Also no shows from 4 music or 4 seven or CBS or channel 4 Or E4 or MTV Channels and limited UK TV, the rest need to be TV anywhere but only wifi

There is very little material I can send to my box wow

jb66 10-12-2016 18:56

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I just broke my v6 virginity and installed my first v6 today, strange thing was the customer had a SH1 and only 70meg!

Ddonald2016 10-12-2016 19:11

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35874972)
I just broke my v6 virginity and installed my first v6 today, strange thing was the customer had a SH1 and only 70meg!

Well done, I'm getting mine installed Wednesday but the shows you can download is pants

passingbat 10-12-2016 19:24

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35874953)
Basically any sky channels from living to one to two and more, can't have downloads sent to our box that is a hell of a restriction compared to sky q

Also no shows from 4 music or 4 seven or CBS or channel 4 Or E4 or MTV Channels and limited UK TV, the rest need to be TV anywhere but only wifi

There is very little material I can send to my box wow


No surprise that Sky are withholding them. Maybe MM can fill us in on a comparison with Sky Q (availability of non Sky channels)? Not a feature I'd use, but other people could want it

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35874972)
I just broke my v6 virginity and installed my first v6 today, strange thing was the customer had a SH1 and only 70meg!


And presumably it still worked?

Ddonald2016 10-12-2016 19:37

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35874976)
No surprise that Sky are withholding them. Maybe MM can fill us in on a comparison with Sky Q (availability of non Sky channels)? Not a feature I'd use, but other people could want it

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And presumably it still worked?

The other problem is we can stream some channels but TV anywhere is reliant still on wifi unlike sky

albertsteptoe 10-12-2016 20:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Evening all.
Sorry if this has been asked i have a 500GB Samsung Tivo at moment, i,m interested in the V6 but would like to know if i use V6 as main box for recording shows will those shows show up on Samsung Tivo so i can still archive them.

passingbat 10-12-2016 20:16

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35874983)
Evening all.
Sorry if this has been asked i have a 500GB Samsung Tivo at moment, i,m interested in the V6 but would like to know if i use V6 as main box for recording shows will those shows show up on Samsung Tivo so i can still archive them.


I suspect it can, but don't know for sure. I think with Tivo, it records from the scart socket, what is playing on Tivo. There may be some copy protection that knows that you are streaming from another box; I really don't know.


Spiderplant would be the authority on this.

albertsteptoe 10-12-2016 20:22

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Thanks for reply if there is copy protection I won't bother with the V6.

Ddonald2016 10-12-2016 20:34

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35874983)
Evening all.
Sorry if this has been asked i have a 500GB Samsung Tivo at moment, i,m interested in the V6 but would like to know if i use V6 as main box for recording shows will those shows show up on Samsung Tivo so i can still archive them.

Yes but you will need a power line adapter one end in Super hub and one end in TiVo. That's the way to do it

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Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35874985)
Thanks for reply if there is copy protection I won't bother with the V6.

Well the copy protection issue to the tablet is a real problem and that will limit customers way to watch there content on the move

albertsteptoe 10-12-2016 20:34

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Sorry what is that.

Ddonald2016 10-12-2016 20:36

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35874984)
I suspect it can, but don't know for sure. I think with Tivo, it records from the scart socket, what is playing on Tivo. There may be some copy protection that knows that you are streaming from another box; I really don't know.


Spiderplant would be the authority on this.

As far as I know TiVo to TiVo you should be able to still archive. But you can't achieve direct on a v6 like sky q due to no scart

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Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35874988)
Sorry what is that.

What is what soz

spiderplant 10-12-2016 20:39

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35874984)
I suspect it can, but don't know for sure. I think with Tivo, it records from the scart socket, what is playing on Tivo. There may be some copy protection that knows that you are streaming from another box; I really don't know.

There is no SCART copy protection on recordings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35874986)
Yes but you will need a power line adapter one end in Super hub and one end in TiVo. That's the way to do it

No you don't. A direct Ethernet cable from hub to Tivo would be fine.

albertsteptoe 10-12-2016 20:45

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Is this what you mean by power line adapter, IDevolo 500 Wi-Fi Single Powerline Socket i have sky q silver can't archive on that either, that's why I cane back to virgin to get the Tivo.

Ddonald2016 10-12-2016 20:47

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35874991)
There is no SCART copy protection on recordings.


No you don't. A direct Ethernet cable from hub to Tivo would be fine.

Would it right thanks for correcting me

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Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35874992)
Is this what you mean by power line adapter, IDevolo 500 Wi-Fi Single Powerline Socket i have sky q silver can't archive on that either, that's why I cane back to virgin to get the Tivo.

Apart from if you added the sky q mini you can archieve that way

jb66 10-12-2016 20:52

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35874976)
No surprise that Sky are withholding them. Maybe MM can fill us in on a comparison with Sky Q (availability of non Sky channels)? Not a feature I'd use, but other people could want it

---------- Post added at 18:24 ---------- Previous post was at 18:22 ----------




And presumably it still worked?

Worked fine, but in training i was told v6 wont be installed unless customer has a sh2 as a minimum on 100meg

albertsteptoe 10-12-2016 20:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35874991)
There is no SCART copy protection on recordings.


No you don't. A direct Ethernet cable from hub to Tivo would be fine.

spiderplant, sorry to be a pain one more question please, do you mean a Ethernet cable from my old Tivo or to V6.

Ddonald2016 10-12-2016 21:13

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Its just a shame we can download to tablet but with restrictions there are not many channels allowed to download from

spiderplant 10-12-2016 21:14

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by albertsteptoe (Post 35874996)
spiderplant, sorry to be a pain one more question please, do you mean a Ethernet cable from my old Tivo or to V6.

From old TiVo to SuperHub. The V6 will have already a connection to the SuperHub (could be Ethernet, Wifi or Powerline, depending on how the installer set it up)

albertsteptoe 10-12-2016 21:37

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35875000)
From old TiVo to SuperHub. The V6 will have already a connection to the SuperHub (could be Ethernet, Wifi or Powerline, depending on how the installer set it up)

Thanks a lot for that spiderplant, thanks for everyones help, ill wait for things to quite down be for i order, good luck to everyone getting one soon.

Ddonald2016 10-12-2016 22:36

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35874999)
Its just a shame we can download to tablet but with restrictions there are not many channels allowed to download from

How do people here feel bout not being able to download the majority of shows to tablets

RobboEdin 10-12-2016 22:46

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875004)
How do people here feel bout not being able to download the majority of shows to tablets

I couldn't care less. I see no need for this function for me or my family.

paulg 10-12-2016 23:56

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Forgive me for not wading through 151 pages of this just in case this has already been answered. But I understand that one shouldn't lose one's existing recordings when one switches from old TiVo to new V6. But how does this work? Do they just shove the old (and perhaps tired) hard drive - which in my case has about 800 Mb of recordings - into the new box? Or do they have some incredibly fast copying device? Because it would normally take a long time to transfer this much data. Help would be appreciated.

passingbat 11-12-2016 00:14

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35875005)
I couldn't care less. I see no need for this function for me or my family.


+1 for me but I suspect it will be a desirable feature for others. This why it would help if we knew what channels Sky Q can do. If they have the same channels restricted (excluding Sky channels), then we know it is a content provider restriction

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paulg (Post 35875014)
Forgive me for not wading through 151 pages of this just in case this has already been answered. But I understand that one shouldn't lose one's existing recordings when one switches from old TiVo to new V6. But how does this work? Do they just shove the old (and perhaps tired) hard drive - which in my case has about 800 Mb of recordings - into the new box? Or do they have some incredibly fast copying device? Because it would normally take a long time to transfer this much data. Help would be appreciated.


With a straight swop, you will lose your recordings. You should be able to transfer series link and Whishlist settings to the V6

OhReally 11-12-2016 00:47

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875004)
How do people here feel bout not being able to download the majority of shows to tablets

Personally, I don't care, why would you watch on a tiny 7 or 10 inch screen with a 42 incher sitting in the corner.

But seeing as they are touting this as part of the "biggest revolution in tv history", shows what a hollow pointless claim that it is. Especially as apparently according to earlier posts you can't even stream anything you like from V6 to V6 (or did I misread that?)

If you can't view ANY recording on another device then what's the point?

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 01:39

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35875017)
Personally, I don't care, why would you watch on a tiny 7 or 10 inch screen with a 42 incher sitting in the corner.

But seeing as they are touting this as part of the "biggest revolution in tv history", shows what a hollow pointless claim that it is. Especially as apparently according to earlier posts you can't even stream anything you like from V6 to V6 (or did I misread that?)

If you can't view ANY recording on another device then what's the point?

Hi you can stream recordings from v6 to v6 via wifi no issues

OLD BOY 11-12-2016 10:51

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875004)
How do people here feel bout not being able to download the majority of shows to tablets

I prefer watching TV on a big screen. I'm not so addicted that I need to carry my programmes around on a tablet as well.

nialli 11-12-2016 10:58

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulg (Post 35875014)
Forgive me for not wading through 151 pages of this just in case this has already been answered. But I understand that one shouldn't lose one's existing recordings when one switches from old TiVo to new V6. But how does this work? Do they just shove the old (and perhaps tired) hard drive - which in my case has about 800 Mb of recordings - into the new box? Or do they have some incredibly fast copying device? Because it would normally take a long time to transfer this much data. Help would be appreciated.

Unless you plan to keep your old TiVo as a second box in your home, you will lose your old recordings, all 800Gb of them.
If you have a V6 and your old TiVo is connected (i.e. wired) to the same network then you can stream your old recordings to the V6.
Virgin Media will not copy old recordings to a new box - whether they could or not I have no idea, but any statements that old recordings are retained is not true.

muppetman11 11-12-2016 11:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875045)
I prefer watching TV on a big screen. I'm not so addicted that I need to carry my programmes around on a tablet as well.

But then Virgin Media aren't just catering for you are they ?

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 11:32

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35875047)
But then Virgin Media aren't just catering for you are they ?

I agree totally and how is a few channels ground breaking

muppetman11 11-12-2016 11:48

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875048)
I agree totally and how is a few channels ground breaking

You do realise that whilst the Sky Q app allows streaming of all channels in the home to mobile/tablet devices it does not allow downloading of recordings from every channel , rights restrictions apply to Sky just the same as VM.

nomadking 11-12-2016 11:55

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875048)
I agree totally and how is a few channels ground breaking

In time more channels and programmes will be allowed. TV Anywhere was more restricted when it started, but over time more was added.

denphone 11-12-2016 12:11

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875004)
How do people here feel bout not being able to download the majority of shows to tablets

We don't download to tablets so it will make diddly squat difference.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35875047)
But then Virgin Media aren't just catering for you are they ?

Indeed TV providers would be pretty foolish if they just catered for a certain section of their TV customer base.

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 12:14

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35875051)
You do realise that whilst the Sky Q app allows streaming of all channels in the home to mobile/tablet devices it does not allow downloading of recordings from every channel , rights restrictions apply to Sky just the same as VM.


passingbat 11-12-2016 12:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35875051)
does not allow downloading of recordings from every channel , rights restrictions apply to Sky just the same as VM.


That's what I was trying to establish. Do you know if Sky allow more than VM?

toady 11-12-2016 13:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35875017)
Personally, I don't care, why would you watch on a tiny 7 or 10 inch screen with a 42 incher sitting in the corner.

But seeing as they are touting this as part of the "biggest revolution in tv history", shows what a hollow pointless claim that it is. Especially as apparently according to earlier posts you can't even stream anything you like from V6 to V6 (or did I misread that?)

If you can't view ANY recording on another device then what's the point?

60% of youngsters already watch TV on a phone, tablet or laptop

tazted2001 11-12-2016 13:25

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35870885)
It doesn't say that it's a "scart socket" it says "scart". This is how Now TV's white box works - a small socket which can receive have an adapter cable plugged into it and then the other end of the cable goes into a scart socket in the TV.
In the case of the V6 though, it appears this functionality has been disabled anyway!

Hi, any idea how we enable the scart out, so I can use my modulator please

RobboEdin 11-12-2016 14:15

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35875047)
But then Virgin Media aren't just catering for you are they ?

People are responding, as requested, on their personal feelings, not their general beliefs so no need to criticise their thoughts.

muppetman11 11-12-2016 14:42

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35875075)
People are responding, as requested, on their personal feelings, not their general beliefs so no need to criticise their thoughts.

Personal feelings don't represent VM's thought process on what they offer customers so I'm not sure what the point of your post is.

Streaming to mobiles/tablets and downloading to device is a much requested feature hence why it's adopted by many pay TV provider's around the world.

RobboEdin 11-12-2016 14:44

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875004)
How do people here feel bout not being able to download the majority of shows to tablets

You must have missed the fact that people have been responding to this post.

bantamboy 11-12-2016 14:46

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I'm looking to replace my secondary VHD box with a V6. The existing Tivo is next to the hub, so ethernet connected. Just done a WiFi speed check upstairs where I'd want the V6 and I'm downloading at 45-50meg and uploading at 15-20. Would this be strong enough to connect the boxes or would I need to powerline or WiFi boost upstairs?

muppetman11 11-12-2016 14:50

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35875083)
You must have missed the fact that people have been responding to this post.

Ha ha I did actually but my reply was more in response to Old Boys comment which in my opinion insinuated that wanting to take content with you on the go was a little over the top. Don't forget many use the download feature to fill the commute to work , going away on holiday etc. It's something I rarely use however its nice to know it's avaliable , Netflix must think it's important enough as they've just added the functionality.

jb66 11-12-2016 15:31

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bantamboy (Post 35875084)
I'm looking to replace my secondary VHD box with a V6. The existing Tivo is next to the hub, so ethernet connected. Just done a WiFi speed check upstairs where I'd want the V6 and I'm downloading at 45-50meg and uploading at 15-20. Would this be strong enough to connect the boxes or would I need to powerline or WiFi boost upstairs?

That sounds fine

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 16:25

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35875055)
We don't download to tablets so it will make diddly squat difference.

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Indeed TV providers would be pretty foolish if they just catered for a certain section of their TV customer base.

I agree but not allowing any sky TV channels to download to tablets is not a good idea

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35875062)
That's what I was trying to establish. Do you know if Sky allow more than VM?

Well I do know for a fact they show all sky non premium channels unlike virgin

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If you get back home, midway through a show you recorded to your phone via cellular data or wifi, don’t worry about it not being on the Sky Q box. You’ll be able to access content stored on the phone via the Sky Q box too. The result should be an ability to start on one device and continue on another seamlessly no matter where it’s recorded.

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. Sky claims its Ultra HD service will be 'the UK’s most comprehensive' including sports, movies, and entertainment.

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Sky Q 4K content will include 124 live Premier League games, every Formula 1 race in 2017, 70 movies including Spectre and The Revenant, 30 hours of natural history and new dramas such as The Blacklist

nomadking 11-12-2016 17:10

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
What Sky can show and what VM can show will be down the rights holders, not necessarily Sky and VM.

passingbat 11-12-2016 17:12

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875095)
I agree but not allowing any sky TV channels to download to tablets is not a good idea



Well I do know for a fact they show all sky non premium channels unlike virgin

Why did you expect otherwise; Sky are in competition with VM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875095)
Sky claims its Ultra HD service will be 'the UK’s most comprehensive' including sports, movies, and entertainment.

---------- Post added at 15:25 ---------- Previous post was at 15:25 ----------

Sky Q 4K content will include 124 live Premier League games, every Formula 1 race in 2017, 70 movies including Spectre and The Revenant, 30 hours of natural history and new dramas such as The Blacklist


If you want the latest and greatest content, as has been said many times before, move to Sky

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 17:18

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35875107)
Why did you expect otherwise; Sky are in competition with VM




If you want the latest and greatest content, as has been said many times before, move to Sky

Yeah I agree but we pay for these channels and sky shouldn't be allowed to restrict our recordings from v6 to tablet that's wrong

OLD BOY 11-12-2016 17:32

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875095)

Sky claims its Ultra HD service will be 'the UK’s most comprehensive' including sports, movies, and entertainment.

Yes, well it would be as it denies some of its output to other platforms!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875109)
Yeah I agree but we pay for these channels and sky shouldn't be allowed to restrict our recordings from v6 to tablet that's wrong

In the same way as they shouldn't deny Sky Atlantic to other platforms. This is the nature of Sky, unfortunately.

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 17:35

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875110)
Yes, well it would be as it denies some of its output to other platforms!

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In the same way as they shouldn't deny Sky Atlantic to other platforms. This is the nature of Sky, unfortunately.

But due to a whole new raft of sky restricitons how long can and will virgin media customers remain loyal

OLD BOY 11-12-2016 17:40

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875113)
But due to a whole new raft of sky restricitons how long can and will virgin media customers remain loyal

I guess it depends on what you want from your TV service.

My main beef (as some may have guessed) is that we can't get Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media, but I and others on this forum have got around this by subscribing to Now TV.

Sky don't have anything else to offer that I crave, so I won't be going over to the dark side just yet.

mcgillca 11-12-2016 17:41

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35874811)
Yes, the V6 still responds to the old remote so you're OK.

Thank you very much for confirming! I'll order my second V6 box... :)

Colin

denphone 11-12-2016 17:52

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875115)
I guess it depends on what you want from your TV service.

My main beef (as some may have guessed) is that we can't get Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media, but I and others on this forum have got around this by subscribing to Now TV.

Sky don't have anything else to offer that I crave, so I won't be going over to the dark side just yet.

The great master can send all the minions he wants from his gold and marble palatial fortress but his legendary influence will not change this old codger.;)

Mr Banana 11-12-2016 17:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875113)
But due to a whole new raft of sky restricitons how long can and will virgin media customers remain loyal

You tell us, you are the one who keeps moaning. How long will you stay loyal?

bantamboy 11-12-2016 18:10

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bantamboy (Post 35875084)
I'm looking to replace my secondary VHD box with a V6. The existing Tivo is next to the hub, so ethernet connected. Just done a WiFi speed check upstairs where I'd want the V6 and I'm downloading at 45-50meg and uploading at 15-20. Would this be strong enough to connect the boxes or would I need powerline or WiFi boost upstairs?

Have now placed my order, interestingly enough no charge for the box, £50 install and £15 activation.

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 18:42

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35875120)
You tell us, you are the one who keeps moaning. How long will you stay loyal?

If I'm honest I don't know how long I can stay loyal for

OLD BOY 11-12-2016 18:56

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875123)
If I'm honest I don't know how long I can stay loyal for

Well, if you are saying you are loyal, betrayal must be spectacular! :D

passingbat 11-12-2016 19:14

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875113)
But due to a whole new raft of sky restricitons how long can and will virgin media customers remain loyal


With VM's Mix TV, Now TV, Netflix and Amazon Prime, moving to Sky would offer me nothing else that I want or need.


The above won't suit everyone; that's why it's good to have choice. Your TV needs appear to be better served by Sky Q.

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 20:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875125)
Well, if you are saying you are loyal, betrayal must be spectacular! :D

No I am loyal but to be honest loyality to virgin is getting tested, they said this box would give groundbreaking things like take your recordings with you, well that is not totally correct is it.

Kabaal 11-12-2016 20:17

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Loyalty and betrayal... you guys are nuts, they're a company not your best friend :)

carbon60 11-12-2016 20:39

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
TiVo V6 and Hub 3 installed today, I had to wave goodbye to the elderly Scientific Atlanta V+ box, I'd grown quite attached to it despite the amount of nursemaiding I've had to do to it recently with broken series links, etc.

The install took an hour, most of the time taken up with all the firmware updates to both devices.

Internet now 200Mbit on 12 downstream channels. We were forced to change from the Superhub 1 to Hub 3, it rebooted itself after a couple of hours - hopefully to do another firmware update although it did concern me. I've now put it into modem mode.

spiderplant 11-12-2016 20:45

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tazted2001 (Post 35875065)
Hi, any idea how we enable the scart out, so I can use my modulator please

It's not possible. Your best best is to also keep your old TiVo, and send the content through that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bantamboy (Post 35875084)
Just done a WiFi speed check upstairs where I'd want the V6 and I'm downloading at 45-50meg and uploading at 15-20. Would this be strong enough to connect the boxes or would I need to powerline or WiFi boost upstairs?

You can't really tell that way. Each device has its own WiFi characteristics. Anyway, don't worry about it - leave it to the installer to sort it out.

RobboEdin 11-12-2016 20:59

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35875141)
Anyway, don't worry about it - leave it to the installer to sort it out.

...unless you get the installer that thinks the recordings on V6 are in the cloud because the V6 doesn't have a hard disk.

jb66 11-12-2016 22:07

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35875144)
...unless you get the installer that thinks the recordings on V6 are in the cloud because the V6 doesn't have a hard disk.

Whats that got to do with wifi connectivity?

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 22:09

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35875147)
Whats that got to do with wifi connectivity?

If you have two v6 one needs to get connected via Ethernet and the other connects to wifi

Stephen 11-12-2016 22:13

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875148)
If you have two v6 one needs to get connected via Ethernet and the other connects to wifi

You can connect them all by WiFi if you really want.

They don't require an ethernet connection.

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 22:21

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35875149)
You can connect them all by WiFi if you really want.

They don't require an ethernet connection.

I got told one needs a Ethernet connection is that not true, I would so prefer that

jb66 11-12-2016 22:25

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35875152)
I got told one needs a Ethernet connection is that not true, I would so prefer that

Who told you that?

Ddonald2016 11-12-2016 23:01

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35875153)
Who told you that?

One of the sales people said the need to move it beside the v6


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