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roughbeast 24-11-2021 05:44
Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
I updated my ASUS Laptop to Windows 11 last night. All went smoothly, but very slowly. I counted 4 reboots. (Just under 2 hours)

Windows 11 cannot be installed on most systems with processors over 4 years old. Don't worry. In my view, apart from better functionality and a nice appearance Windows 11 isn't going to add much to your set up.

Jaymoss 24-11-2021 08:07
Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 36102206)
I updated my ASUS Laptop to Windows 11 last night. All went smoothly, but very slowly. I counted 4 reboots. (Just under 2 hours)

Windows 11 cannot be installed on most systems with processors over 4 years old. Don't worry. In my view, apart from better functionality and a nice appearance Windows 11 isn't going to add much to your set up.
it will be adding more features over time. I await the natively running android apps so not more bloat filled emulators

nomadking 24-11-2021 08:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 36102206)
I updated my ASUS Laptop to Windows 11 last night. All went smoothly, but very slowly. I counted 4 reboots. (Just under 2 hours)

Windows 11 cannot be installed on most systems with processors over 4 years old. Don't worry. In my view, apart from better functionality and a nice appearance Windows 11 isn't going to add much to your set up.
IIRC Older systems may be able to have Win 11 installed. As long as they have a TPM module socket on the motherboard and you install a TPM module on it. Newer processors have TPM functionality built into them.

gulf4uk 24-11-2021 08:28
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Just another Money Grab, Windows 10 works well so i stay with it . my Base as 1TB Hard drive 8 gig Ram Fully updated windows 10 and boots in 35 seconds .does all i will ever need and my Windows XP Dell doing a constant Job works no need to update

Jaymoss 24-11-2021 08:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gulf4uk (Post 36102221)
Just another Money Grab, Windows 10 works well so i stay with it . my Base as 1TB Hard drive 8 gig Ram Fully updated windows 10 and boots in 35 seconds .does all i will ever need and my Windows XP Dell doing a constant Job works no need to update
how, it is a free upgrade

gulf4uk 24-11-2021 08:45
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its because the majority of current computers will not run Win 11 mY 3 Year old laptop Has no chance , ok there are workrounds but most people will not be able to do that

Local well known Computer shop offering to Sell you a new one with free upgrade and a very very Small Trade in on old one almost Robbery.

Jaymoss 24-11-2021 08:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gulf4uk (Post 36102227)
its because the majority of current computers will not run Win 11 mY 3 Year old laptop Has no chance , ok there are workrounds but most people will not be able to do that

Local well known Computer shop offering to Sell you a new one with free upgrade and a very very Small Trade in on old one almost Robbery.
as long as your machine has TPM 1.2 then you can upgrade with a reg hack M$ gave out. It most certainly is not a money grab from M$ imo

gulf4uk 24-11-2021 09:08
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Yes but thats ok as long as you are capable of doing the Hack most will not . they can get it done but who by at what cost . a bloke in the pub etc? i see a scam coming

Jaymoss 24-11-2021 09:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gulf4uk (Post 36102234)
Yes but thats ok as long as you are capable of doing the Hack most will not . they can get it done but who by at what cost . a bloke in the pub etc? i see a scam coming
hahahaha

SnoopZ 13-07-2026 17:05
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Just got this email.

Your Windows 10 Extended Security Updates (ESU) protection has been extended.

Quote:
We understand that moving to a new PC can take time. As part of our ongoing commitment to helping customers stay secure during the transition, the Windows 10 Extended Security Updates (ESU) program for personal devices is being provided an additional year.
Coverage will now be available through October 12, 2027.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/wind..._868k1p7eh&r=1

Mr K 13-07-2026 19:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36219538)
Just got this email.

Your Windows 10 Extended Security Updates (ESU) protection has been extended.



Coverage will now be available through October 12, 2027.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/wind..._868k1p7eh&r=1
Too many still on W10. I'm certainly not throwing away a good pc to 'upgrade'.

Dude111 13-07-2026 20:11
People should be careful taking any updates at this point.. I wouldnt put it past M$ to send out stuff to make the PC not work as well to try and force ppl to the newer OS! (They have done stuff like that before)

SnoopZ 13-07-2026 20:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36219547)
Too many still on W10. I'm certainly not throwing away a good pc to 'upgrade'.
Yes same, I hardly use the PC now so it's staying on Windows 10.

Jaymoss 14-07-2026 06:13
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There has never been anything stopping anyone on windows 10 from upgrading bar the few on an older AMD apu that might struggle with GFX drivers. Only ever seen this once out of loads

---------- Post added at 07:13 ---------- Previous post was at 07:11 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36219538)
Just got this email.

Your Windows 10 Extended Security Updates (ESU) protection has been extended.



Coverage will now be available through October 12, 2027.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/wind..._868k1p7eh&r=1
imo the only thing they are patching now is exploits found in the last update and historic vulnerabilities that have been there a very long time and only just found

damien c 14-07-2026 12:01
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Well I was considering "Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC" but in order to get that, it's expensive and iirc still requires the "we want to sell your data" account aka a "Microsoft account".

I have now installed Nobara Linux and giving it a shot, the only thing that will cause me to go back to Windows at this point is if I cannot get the games I want to play to work without issue or lower performance by more than 10%.

jem 17-07-2026 18:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36219567)
There has never been anything stopping anyone on windows 10 from upgrading bar the few on an older AMD apu that might struggle with GFX drivers. Only ever seen this once out of loads

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imo the only thing they are patching now is exploits found in the last update and historic vulnerabilities that have been there a very long time and only just found
Yes, exactly it’s ‘security updates’ only, to patch known exploits, certainly no new features -which might not be a bad thing, no copilot rammed down your throat.

I’m sure I read a report which claimed that some 17% of PCs were still on Windows 10, which I think is a low estimate.

damien c 17-07-2026 18:57
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According to Statcounter these are the numbers from June 2026.


Desktop Windows Version Market Share Worldwide - June 2026
Win11 69.92%
Win10 28.1%
Win7 1.67%
WinXP 0.17%
Win8.1 0.09%
Win8 0.03%



Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide - June 2026
Windows 56.61%
Unknown 21.45%
OS X 11.89%
macOS 4.48%
Linux 4.36%
Chrome OS 1.21%


There is some questions being asked by PCMag and others though because of the "Unknown Os" and apparently it was removed but it still shows for me.

Sirius 17-07-2026 19:05
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Microsoft are now installing spyware on PC's on behalf of LG and it does it without your consent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9uefFYe6bM&t=720s

thenry 17-07-2026 19:34
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Everything will be slow then :rolleyes::no:

Jaymoss 18-07-2026 05:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36219805)
Microsoft are now installing spyware on PC's on behalf of LG and it does it without your consent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9uefFYe6bM&t=720s
Have done some digging into this and this is bad . Gonna have to make a post about it

Sirius 18-07-2026 07:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36219818)
Have done some digging into this and this is bad . Gonna have to make a post about it
As far as the monitors go this has to have been an agreement between Microsoft and LG. The spyware is installed via a Microsoft update and it seems this could affect monitors that were purchased unto 3 years ago.

https://www.tomshardware.com/softwar...ck-the-new-ads

Anyone still using Windows 11 and have a LG monitor check your driver updates

Jaymoss 18-07-2026 08:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36219823)
As far as the monitors go this has to have been an agreement between Microsoft and LG. The spyware is installed via a Microsoft update and it seems this could affect monitors that were purchased unto 3 years ago.

https://www.tomshardware.com/softwar...ck-the-new-ads

Anyone still using Windows 11 and have a LG monitor check your driver updates
The thing to do if you have Pro or enterprise Turn off the trigger install by meta data function in group policy then nothing can do this again . This is what I did then uninstalled the LG program

Sirius 18-07-2026 12:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36219827)
The thing to do if you have Pro or enterprise Turn off the trigger install by meta data function in group policy then nothing can do this again . This is what I did then uninstalled the LG program
That is ok for you who is tech savvy but think of the thousands of users who dont have a clue about the software never mind how to stop it.

raging bull 08-08-2026 11:08
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Windows 10 and Firefox problems?
Fired up my old widows laptop after a couple of days rest, immediately Firefox started to do an update then nothing!
Home screen went blank then a message popped up.
[Unable to continue, refresh required]
This has shown above message for the last hr, still no further forwards?

Jaymoss 08-08-2026 11:20
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you mean the PC has froze at that screen? CTRL ALT Delete then task manager end firefox task uninstall and reinstall firefox see if that works if not force restart uninstall firefox and then clean install it

raging bull 08-08-2026 18:39
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The screen shows refreshing with a bar moving left/right.
So something is happening but not completing a refresh.

Itshim 08-08-2026 18:47
Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36219823)
As far as the monitors go this has to have been an agreement between Microsoft and LG. The spyware is installed via a Microsoft update and it seems this could affect monitors that were purchased unto 3 years ago.

https://www.tomshardware.com/softwar...ck-the-new-ads

Anyone still using Windows 11 and have a LG monitor check your driver updates
Thank you for this got a load of grief, asking if it was about LG monitors or TVs :D

Jaymoss 08-08-2026 20:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36220835)
Thank you for this got a load of grief, asking if it was about LG monitors or TVs :D
You did not get grief and you still have not understood the answer

The LG Screen that installed this software on my computer is a TV not a Monitor so Sirus did not tell you that. And TVs spy on you by using the microphone and analysing the image on the screen as well . I did explain this to you in the other thread it is not my fault you refused to take notice of me and I really do know what I am on about when I post anything about tech

I think the simplest way to explain it is a TV is a monitor with smart features and a tuner or 2 so there is no difference between them they are both doing it like I said in the other thread


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Quote:
Originally Posted by raging bull (Post 36220833)
The screen shows refreshing with a bar moving left/right.
So something is happening but not completing a refresh.
can you post a photo ?

Itshim 09-08-2026 16:38
Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
between Microsoft and LG. The spyware is installed via a Microsoft update and it seems this could affect monitors that were purchased unto 3 years ago.


Anyone still using Windows 11 and have a LG monitor check your driver updates[/QUOTE]

I am seeing could affect monitors.TWICE Sorry I didn't read something that's not here, not arguing that your are wrong . My only concern is that I have a LG TV , so was trying and failing to learn if this would in anyway effect me. So sorry to be so stupid :dozey:

---------- Post added at 17:38 ---------- Previous post was at 17:37 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36220836)
You did not get grief and you still have not understood the answer

The LG Screen that installed this software on my computer is a TV not a Monitor so Sirus did not tell you that. And TVs spy on you by using the microphone and analysing the image on the screen as well . I did explain this to you in the other thread it is not my fault you refused to take notice of me and I really do know what I am on about when I post anything about tech

I think the simplest way to explain it is a TV is a monitor with smart features and a tuner or 2 so there is no difference between them they are both doing it like I said in the other thread


---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:10 ----------



can you post a photo ?

Jaymoss 09-08-2026 16:40
Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36220849)
between Microsoft and LG. The spyware is installed via a Microsoft update and it seems this could affect monitors that were purchased unto 3 years ago.


Anyone still using Windows 11 and have a LG monitor check your driver updates

I am seeing could affect monitors.TWICE Sorry I didn't read something that's not here, not arguing that your are wrong . My only concern is that I have a LG TV , so was trying and failing to learn if this would in anyway effect me. So sorry to be so stupid :dozey:

---------- Post added at 17:38 ---------- Previous post was at 17:37 ----------
Quote:
If you connect a Newer LG TV or Monitor it silently without asking pulls the LG Monitor controller and installs this on your computer . This software has system wide permissions and has access to the internet. Remember this asks no permission yet gets global permissions
This was from my very first post on the subject thread I posted . Tell me how you missed that

Paul 10-08-2026 14:09
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It doesnt matter, move on now.

raging bull 28-08-2026 11:28
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Following on from m
y earlier post regarding Windows 10 and Firefox!
So no further problems after I used for a couple of days, yesterday I switched on [nbg]!
Repeat of earlier problem, Firefox update then Windows failed to open on my home page.
Message saying unable to start, refresh last session/start new session?
Then screen froze, clicked on exit just reulted in reported error to Microsoft.
Possible end of Windows 10 RIP?

tweetiepooh 28-08-2026 13:35
Re: [Update] Windows 10 Discussion
 
Old lappy - install Linux, personally I like a KDE desktop but it is resource heavy. I haven't used Win10 for ages now that Linux can run my Steam games. There are occasions it would be helpful but I haven't really found anything that doesn't have some form of workaround.


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