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:doh: That SA thing....!

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And ....;)

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If my other 3 assertions are completely rubbished before the end of the year then that's it I'll resign from the internet.

Seriously though I am genuinely surprised at Amazon being on Roku....especially with their new box being out. I would have expected Amazon to try and grow their hardware business in the wake of the phone failure....maybe they are making more from subs.

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I'm sure they've done the math, Mike. By restricting the equipment on which a service can be viewed, they would be losing out on all those annual subscriptions. Don't forget that it is only a relatively small one-off charge for the Amazon stick.

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What, Den? :confused::Sprint:

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l think you know what l mean Old Boy.:)

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:confused::shrug::beer:

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But I think "cord cutting" is a misnomer. You still need a "cord", aka broadband to get streaming services.

If anything will be "cut" in the future, it will be the likes of Netflix, Amazon et all...

The last time I checked Netflix/Amazon etc don't own any cablecos, satellite tv cos, broadband ISPs. I don't think their position is as strong as everyone hypes them up to be.

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http://m.groupon.co.uk/deals/bt-sport

Half price BT Sport in HD & no activation fee.

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What about a 4G dongle?

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I think the maths went something like no Amazon Prime on Roku=no sales via Amazon.

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Of course your right, for the vast majority there will still be a cord of sorts involved to deliver their broadband to allow them to stream video. I think most people use the term "cord cutting" to describe the act of moving away from cable and satellite TV. It's one of these hip urban dictionary type terms used by teens and adults in their late 20's. I'm 36 and should be ashamed of myself using such terminology :D

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I think it originated in the US and I suspect was coined by an older age group than you suggest.

Given that it actually does refer to cutting the cord from traditional yearly pay TV subscriptions, proportionately few in their teens and even late twenties will have had those subscriptions.

Therefore no need to feel ashamed :D

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There still needs to be a network for any wireless device to connect to. So, although no "cord", it ain't cord-less either. (excuse the pun)

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With the imminent price rises, I'm thinking of cord cutting too, so I have no problem with the term and I'm older than you.

But, clearly there is a technological change underway. TV was delivered one way for generations (over the air using tv aerials), then Murdoch came along and changed that and with the advent of fast internet, it's changing again. But, I do not think traditional tv will die and even if it does, there still needs to be a company that provides internet access which Netflix, Amazon do not.

I just think we're hearing a lot about Netflix/Amazon/Hulu etc now, but I question whether they will still be around in ten years especially if the likes of Time Warner, Disney, Fox, AT&T, Comcast etc all launch their own versions of Netflix to prevent cord cutting from their own channels/networks.

Time Warner is already making grumbling noises about providing content to Netflix which is in direct competition to its own HBO channel. Others will start grumbling too soon...

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Personal opinion of course but I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Netflix get snapped up in the future , Apple have long mooted a video streaming service , in Netflix they already have a service with a huge footprint and probably the best streaming experience in the market.

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The networks will fail, they will try and impalement old business practices in the new world and they don't seem to realise it is not just the content but the way netflix delivers content. Plus Netflix has shown that they can produce original shows that are as good as the best out there while the networks continue to water down their shows, make them more tweeny and go after the cheap reality market.

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The problem with the US networks is the amount of adverts. A programme starts, then it goes into adverts within a few minutes of the show starting, then the opening credits start when the first batch of ads end - crazy!

As an addendum to my earlier post, US cableco Charter Communications (controlled by John Malone) is trialling a streaming service and Time Warner has taken a stake in Hulu.

So the US cablecos are getting into the streaming game after all.

All the people in the "know" are buying shares in Netflix, so you may be right. A bunfight may be coming about who gets to snap up Netflix first.

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There are more adverts in the US... but they are shorter. The UK has less adverts, but each block lasts longer.

With regards to total timing, there is no difference between watching a US show in the US or the UK. They both run on hourly schedules and the total show run time of a US 'hour long show' is around 42 minutes.

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Although US broadcasters are now cutting the amount of advertising in order to better compete with the streaming services.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/viac...ts-1201598646/

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Pretty sure Sky used to follow that model at one point years ago. Have a vague memory of watching Star Trek where they used to show the teaser, then the title and then immediately go for a break.

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That was probably before (mostly) EU legislation came in revising how advertising could be included in programmes and setting new limits.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bro...de/ad-minutage
http://ec.europa.eu/archives/informa...p/index_en.htm

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Shove it, HBO: AMC refuses to further delay sending shows to Netflix

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/shove-...224312263.html

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Kind off a online service as it will be delivered via internet i think box nation has appeared on the youview EPG today channel 255.

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http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201511214...#axzz3s8xNxpSc

Some news to add weight to those that believe that live TV watching is on the decline.

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It's on Freeview too.

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Now Music TV set to start on Amazon Fire TV.

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And just for balance, an article from the day after the above that says linear TV isn't going away anytime soon!

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201511224...#axzz3sH9QDaTw

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Chilled tv also on firetv now too both now music and chilled tv fire tv apps are available from amazon store,

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I think you may have taken this out of context, Richard. This isn't all about linear TV, it's about television.

I watch streaming services on my TV all the time - never on my small computer screen or tablet!

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Oops, my mistake OB :blush:

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201511244...#axzz3sRM23ZCe

Does anyone know what 'Programmatic Video Purchasing' is? I've never heard of it, is it buy and keep VOD purchases??

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This may help, sort of!

http://adexchanger.com/online-advert...mmatic-buying/

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Thanks John, that did help to explain it.

There's a new scam to extort money from Smart TV users:

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201511254...#axzz3sRM23ZCe

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Since i've had a FireTV i haven't even connected my ethernet up to my smart TV, don't think i'll ever bother again.

When i have to replace it i'm not bothering with smart TV's again, don't think they're worth the extra money TBH.

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I think that they're mostly a waste of time too. When I buy my new TV, any Smart TV capabilities will be purely incidental.

Ad free option for Hulu is a success:

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201511234...#axzz3sRM23ZCe

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I think that your view may change when you get your Smart TV.

As just one example, whatever I am watching at the time, I can just press the 'Netflix' button on my Smart TV remote and I'm straight in there with the Netflix choices on screen. Very quick and efficient!

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I think that they're probably useful when the TV is new, but from what I've researched, the apps eventually stop working well or at all as technology advances.

All else being equal, I would buy a TV with smart capabilities, but it wouldn't be a deciding factor.

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Exactly; and it's way cheaper to replace a streamer box when that happens than an expensive TV.

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I agree with the point you are making however it depends what timescale your expecting the apps to work for , we have a Samsung in the bedroom which is pretty old and the apps still work and it receives updates from time to time.

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Does Demand 5 still work on it? Some older Samsung TV's have lost this service (but AFAIK it is hoped to return it when new code is written).

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I'm not sure that this is still the case, Richard. I bought my new Sony last July, and already it has updated the new ITV player ( the ITV Hub) and installed You View, for example. I've received a few updates since I bought the TV and I fully expect these to continue.

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You can buy a large widescreen Smart TV for just a few hundred quid these days. Even in John Lewis!

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That's what I thought, MM11.

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Yes, I do believe so, Richard but I have never watched this app ( not much on Demand 5 that I'm interested in, to be honest).

I'll check it tonight, but I would be most surprised if it wasn't there! I'll let you know when I try to access it later this evening.

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'just a few hundred quid' is still a significant amount, and way more than a streamer box.

And some people prefer to spend a little more to get something better, picture quality wise, than that afforded by the bottom end TVs, given that it is something you will be looking at a lot.

Then you have the issue that some TVs (not all), won't pass 5.1 audio from apps on the TV, even though it will give 5.1 from HD terrestrial channels.

Personally, I prefer to buy a good quality TV and make it last for a very long time. That coupled with cheapish streamer boxes gives a quality picture and an inexpensive solution if technology development renders apps unusable.

In reality, most decent quality TVs bought now will have apps by default, so it's a little academic. But if I was going for a budget TV, I'd make picture quality the priority over one for the same price that included apps.

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Which is why i count myself lucky to still have a <£1k plasma TV going strong. No smart about it just great picture that's still better than any current TV at a similar price even after these years.

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Can't say I blame you for not being interested in Channel 5 content, it's all 'poverty porn' these days, they even had a programme on there called 'My dog is on benefits'!!! All I watch is The Wright Stuff for the paper reviews.

Well, my research shows that plasma TV's have a better picture than LCD/LED models. The downside is that they are now difficult to source and use more electricity.

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Five years ago, that would be true (though not by as much as plasma fans would have you believe ;):D). But these days, top quality LCD TV's are just as good. LCD quality has improved over the last five years. And it was very good five years ago.

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I have both, and the LCD beats the plasma hands down now, it is a newish TV, and I agree with PB, the PQ on modern day TV's is very good nowadays.

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Agree my friend has a plasma i have a new Samsung lcd/led tv and my friend always comments how much more vibrant and clearer the picture is on my tv compared to his.
As for price wise i may make a few of you envious here :p: i paid £107 for my Samsung smart tv 2014 model 40inch full hd led tv as it was a mis price by Amazon, was surprised they honored it tbh.

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All TV's are LED these days and have been for a couple of years, if you're buying an LCD it's old stock.

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It's led just checked the box lol.

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The 'LED' part only refers to the method of backlighting. They are still LCD screens.


https://www.richersounds.com/information/led-tv

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Good link but i still think my statement stands :) If it's an LCD it uses fluorescent backlight, so it's still old tech.

They're still better than the colour 'Ecko' set i had back in the '80's :)

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But in an LED TV, the screen is still LCD. Therefore both terms are correct.

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LCDs still have a slightly slower response time to change state compared to plasmas so there's greater motion blur. OLED TVs are solely LED and outperform both but it has taken a long time for the technology to get to the point of screens without a high failure rate of dead pixels and a suitable price point.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/oled-tv...u-need-to-know

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Just checked, Richard, Demand 5 works perfectly well on my Smart Sony TV.

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Amazon have some good Now TV deals including new Now TV box.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B013...UdL&ref=plSrch

Box and 3 months Entertainment £14.99
Box and 4 months movies £19.00

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Even better at tesco new nowtv boxes with 6 months entertainment £19.00
Same price for new nowtv box with 4 months movies.
Or £15 with 2 24 hour sport passes.
http://www.tesco.com/direct/search-r...hId=4294967294

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Thanks for the heads up. I don't really need the box (though I may swap my bedroom white one for it) but the entertainment pass, even with the £3 delivery, works out at around £3.60 p/m.

In early November, there was a guy on Amazon selling a 3 month pass for £8.50, which is the cheapest I've seen; no longer available though. Just hope his code is valid as I can't use it until the first of December.

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The 6 months Entertainment at £19.00 is available on the Amazon link I posted , the 4 month movies at £19 now says currently unavailable.

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Wow that is stupidly cheap. Just got one, which with the £3 credit for no rush Prime shipping means it's only £16 at Amazon.

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That page didn't and still doesn't appear to load properly for me. That's annoying as I'm guessing it would have been free Prime delivery?

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Try this link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/NOW-TV-Month...8630542&sr=8-2

From some links it shows as out of stock.

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Just got the Entertainment Pass for 6 months £19 with no rush, so £3 credit. Nice

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Thanks,

I did a search for now tv and found it that way. Ordered two, given the bargain price, giving me a full year and have just cancelled the Tesco order.

Thanks to all who have posted these links

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Now TV also have offers generally 2 and 3 month passes though

http://www.nowtv.com/promo/blackfrid...nc_General/gen

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A box + 3 months Entertainment via that offer is £14.99. It doesn't really compare with £19 for a box and six months.

How Amazon and Tesco can do better deals than the company that makes the product, is beyond me, but it seems to happen a lot.

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I don't have prime so have done same as you bought 2 boxes but from Tesco i'll be able to collect them tomorrow or monday.
12 months entertainment for £38 is superb value plus 2 boxes which i can keep as spares or give to family.

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That's easy Now TV probably allow better offers at Amazon and Tesco because both websites have far more visitors than Now TV's own.

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I wont touch Now TV until they start showing in HD, the PQ is awful!

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They do show in HD only On Demand (720p) looks ok on my 55" set , but to be honest I struggle to understand why anyone would watch the live channels with the exception of sport.

Must admit though I wouldn't use for Sport.

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Agree; given that sky are pretty quick to add a broadcast show to catchup, why would anyone watch a live SD stream with 15 to 20 minutes of adverts?

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That's what I think too, but even this forum has plenty of contributors who think linear channels are here to stay and they continue to watch them.

I do think that people will realise eventually how inefficient this method of viewing is, but they need to admit this to themselves before they eventually accept it and change their viewing habits.

On demand and streaming videos are the way of the future.

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Very rare i watch anything live unless it's sport but linar tv isn't going anywhere anywhere soon, on demand will certainly continue to grow but linar will still be here in the foreseeable future, i do think we may see changes to linar tv though such as more product placement and less commercial adverts.

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You keep playing that same record OB and one day you might just convince yourself.;)

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I hear you Den, but you've still not explained why watching 20 minutes of adverts every hour is a good use of your leisure time.

Would you not prefer to be watching programmes rather than ads?

Maybe you just like watching commercials. In which case, fair enough.

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I was going to order this but they want £5 shipping which put me off as the Tescos link lets you add to basket then says it is not in stock!

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Come on OB, the ads will come to streaming sooner rather than later. What will make me chuckle is if streamers cant skip through them though.

Streaming can become king for all I care. As long as I have the choice to keep using an STB with record, FFW, and rewind, I will be happy.

That being said, I still don't think streaming will be future.

Oh, you can already watch programmes without ads - it's called the BBC, but that is something else you to change - which ironically will have to show adverts to help fund it if you had your way. That in itself is equally ironic, considering your hatred of adverts;):p::)

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That's good to hear, in case they ever do actually show something worth watching :D

Do you know when OLED TV's will be on sale at a reasonable price?

That happens a lot, you'd think that going to the manufacturers own website (like Samsung) would be cheaper as they cut out the middle man- but not so.

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Verizon and Comcast have released STBs that stop you from fast fowarding the adverts, expect similar devices in the UK within next 4 or 5 years.
Streaming companies will probablly follow HULUs example one price for a comercial plan say £8p/m and a higher costing plan for no commercials say £12p/m. HULU currently do this commercial plan $7.99p/m (£5.20) and none commercial $11.99p/m (£8.25).

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Amazon have a lightning deal at the moment Now TV (new box) with 3 months Entertainment or two months movies £9.99. Ends in an hour or so I think.

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Just picked up the Now TV box with 6 month entertainment pass and free shipping from PCworld if people are still after this as the other 2 links are out of stock! Other pass options available at good prices.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd...39929-pdt.html

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/search...-criteria.html

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People are now used to add free content from Netflix and prime and Hulu have reported success from their add free option. People have come to expect it now and will be prepared to pay a little extra for it. I think Harry is wrong; I can't see an add free option from streaming services disappearing.

And the Tivo Bolt has functionality to skip adds completely.

https://www.tivo.com/discover/

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I opted for the ad free version of HULU it's worth it imo, the tivo bolt looks like a cracking piece of kit too.

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If the STB's do stop FFW through ads, that will suck. But Tivo bolt will let you skip them anyway. If the worst comes to the worst, I will simply choose to keep an STB that allows me to ffw through ads for as long as I can.

I simply refuse to believe HULU (or anyone) will be able make more money through non-ad subscriptions than advertisers. You can not tell me that they could get more than the £3.05 per month per customer which they currently charge. Ad free viewing is just a rouse to get people buying streaming services, when the subscription figures are high enough, they will pull the rug out from under the ad free viewing.

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But only for certain channels as it relies on employing people to manually mark the start and end of blocks of ads.

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Panasonic suggest 2-3 years. LG just invested over $8bn in a new plant to make them with rumours suggesting the iPhone will be moving to them in 2018. http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/27/9...ry-8-7-billion

There's a proper OLED TV thread here: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/26...-oled-tvs.html

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HULU have already said both ad free and ad supported versions are very succesful with both packages having a good uptake, however even the ad free version does have a advert before the show on some shows but not many, most noticeable is GRIMM and Once upon a time but those are the only 2 i recall. Even the ad supported version is limited commercials you'll get 5 1 minute ad breaks during a 1 hour show.

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We are currently watching 'Indian Summers' on All4 and you can't skip through the ads on there - most annoying. Although I suppose it does give me an opportunity to go to the kitchen to pour some more drinks! :beer:

As for the BBC, I have only suggested commercials as a means of increasing the funding to the organisation, given the popular uprising against the licence fee. Such advertisements should be discreetly placed between, but not during programmes.

I'd still avoid watching them, of course!

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Well, who knows, Harry, but I hope you are wrong. I think there should be a subscription only option without ads for those prepared to pay for it.

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The problem always is that the people who are prepared to pay not to have ads are the ones whose profile the advertisers would most like to reach...

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This offer is still available if anyone still wants it and didn't see this post late last night. :)

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I'd be happy to look at any statistical evidence that you have to support your claim.

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Are now tv box passes stackable?

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No, you have to wait until you are in the last month of your current pass before you can add a new one. Pretty irritating really.

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If i buy another 6 month pass now can i add it is 6 months or does it expire?

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No, it should be fine. I first started using season passes a year ago and bought two boxes at the same time with 3 month passes on special offer for £14. I just waited until the last month of the pass from the first box and then added the second box pass.

I've bought two of the 6 month £19 boxes and will do the same with those.

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Are you serious?!! :shocked:

There's been enough coverage about this, I'm surprised you are doubting that a proportion of the population is getting very angry about having to pay the licence fee, PB.

PS -

Just stumbled on this, it wasn't hard to find.

http://advanced-television.com/2015/...-fee-scrapped/

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Can you add say an entertainment pass and a movie pass at the same time ? I've never tried it.

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Yes you can add both movie and entertainment passes at the same time

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Amazon lightning deal on at the moment early access for Prime members

Now TV + 2 months Movie pass £9.99
Now TV + 3 months Entertainment pass £9.99
Now TV + 2 Sports Day pass £9.99

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I don't think you need to be a Prime member as it let me add it to my basket, although i bought from PCworld as that was free shipping.

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Thanks.

This article says that the infrastructure used for streaming OTT content is problematic because it was only ever designed for VOD, but that is changing...
http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201511294...#axzz3sjEpZvm2

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Amazon Video app coming to Apple TV in the next few weeks ?

http://www.stuff.tv/news/amazon-vide...next-few-weeks

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Personally, I have no problem with BBC having ads as such, as long as the content that wouldn't necessarily generate huge advertising revenues (such as much of the output of BBC Four) is protected. Adverts do not bother me, as I just tend to ignore them.. What does concern me is that advertising budgets are finite. They have limits. Introducing a massive amount of advertising space to a market that is arguably already flooded with it will drive prices through the floor, and the resulting reduction in income WILL have a negative impact on all the commercial TV channels in this country, which will negatively impact the quality of shows produced by those channels. Arguably the increase in commercial channels since the 80s already has affected ITV in this way.. Look at their output. Throughout the 80s and 90s, they had at least one good, high budget drama on every night (apart from Saturdays, which often had the latest films). Now, we have various reality or "talent" shows every night..

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To my mind, we already have advertisements between programmes on the BBC, with all those promotions we get for their own TV and radio programming.

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This is a study titled "Truth about Youth". Who cares what the youths think? The "youth" will constantly change every 10-11 years, and as such so will the trends of the youth. The children of people my age are generally being brought up the way we were. Lots of sport, plenty of reading material, children's programmes on TV, bundled tv packages, although one friend does use Now TV, simply for the cheaper movies and the fact they can't afford Sky.

Trends come and go, and 10 years time there will be new trends from the next generation of youth. I imagine a lot of the youth will be fed up with un-skippable ad's if your fantasy comes true.

As you have stated, you have already encountered ad's you can't skip and still don't watch. Theone (apologies for my rudeness not replying to you directly) has stated an ad-free version of a service is not actually ad-free, and in my eyes, advertisers will offer more and more money to HULU to get their products advertised on their service until HULU realize they can drop the "ad-free" service and make money from ad's than they can from a slightly higher priced subscription.

The balance of streaming services and linear TV is pretty good right now. There is no real reason for anyone to pay full price for a bundled TV subscription anymore and the savings made can pay for any additional streaming services.

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Now, Who is most likely to be watching online video? Young People. That makes the report skewed already Many young people will download illegal content, which will be add free anyway.

A valid report should include an even cross section of the population, and that survey isn't it. Therefore, to me it is invalid.

I am surprised that someone like yourself, who hates adverts is keen for BBC programmes to include them. Do you want the BBC to include them in Radio as well?

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Interesting Sky Go on Amazon Fire tablets.

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/46779...n-amazon-fire/
Now TV on Amazon Fire TV and tablets ?