Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Virgin Media Internet Service (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=12)
-   -   50M : Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS) (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33675644)

jempalmer 03-10-2012 09:34

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...03-10-2012.png

kwikbreaks 03-10-2012 10:15

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35480491)
.. and still less effective than a broken paperclip at the frequency wifi works at...

Hmmm...
I wonder if I put some broken paperclips on eBay as Superhub upgrade antennas if I would sell any...

pabscars 03-10-2012 10:41

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Sky fibre is turning out to be a pretty reliable product, 40 Mbps Download and a very nice 10 Mbps Upload. I just wish I could bin their crappy router as it's absolute bobbins and a real weak point in an otherwise strong chain.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...03-10-2012.png

craigj2k12 03-10-2012 10:48

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35480632)
Sky fibre is turning out to be a pretty reliable product, 40 Mbps Download and a very nice 10 Mbps Upload. I just wish I could bin their crappy router as it's absolute bobbins and a real weak point in an otherwise strong chain.

Im running sky fibre with a linksys e4200 - you can use any router as long as it runs DDWRT. Theres a guide how to swap it over on sky user

pabscars 03-10-2012 13:05

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35480636)
Im running sky fibre with a linksys e4200 - you can use any router as long as it runs DDWRT. Theres a guide how to swap it over on sky user

Interesting,,,, Ive got an ageing Linky WRT610N that I could use possibly, but I need an idiot proof guide on how to do it. I'm not that clued up on routers, firmware changes etc. The only thing I read on sky user was a temp work around and not a full on solution.

Are you saying Sky's encryption has now been cracked to allow any 3rd party router as long as DDWRT can be used.

Chrysalis 03-10-2012 14:08

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35480636)
Im running sky fibre with a linksys e4200 - you can use any router as long as it runs DDWRT. Theres a guide how to swap it over on sky user

good news so in interim could use the dir615 and later a dir655 or 825 for gigabit.

craigj2k12 03-10-2012 14:09

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35480697)
Interesting,,,, Ive got an ageing Linky WRT610N that I could use possibly, but I need an idiot proof guide on how to do it. I'm not that clued up on routers, firmware changes etc. The only thing I read on sky user was a temp work around and not a full on solution.

Are you saying Sky's encryption has now been cracked to allow any 3rd party router as long as DDWRT can be used.

Well I wouldnt say cracked

but yeah any router you want, but it has to run DDWRT (I think tomato would also work, but im not sure)

But yeah... any router

Dont know how clued up you are, theres not really a step by step guide over there, I can make one with screenshots etc, if it would benefit you?

pabscars 03-10-2012 15:31

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35480708)
Well I wouldnt say cracked

but yeah any router you want, but it has to run DDWRT (I think tomato would also work, but im not sure)

But yeah... any router

Dont know how clued up you are, theres not really a step by step guide over there, I can make one with screenshots etc, if it would benefit you?

Hi Craig, if it's what I think it is then, you have to make alterations each time your IP addy changes, so I dont want to be messing around frequently or get ear ache of Mrs Pabs saying it's not working again, so for now I will wait till a full belt and braces fix has been tried and tested.

I appreciate the offer but I wouldnt want you to waste your time just yet :), regarding just how clued up am I, the answer is "not very much at all", apart from being able to make minor tweaks, set up qos, port forwarding etc that kind of stuff, thats about my limit of actual experience, all self taught :erm:.

I'm not a techy person really, In know just enough to be dangerous :D

craigj2k12 03-10-2012 15:37

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35480739)
Hi Craig, if it's what I think it is then, you have to make alterations each time your IP addy changes, so I dont want to be messing around frequently or get ear ache of Mrs Pabs saying it's not working again, so for now I will wait till a full belt and braces fix has been tried and tested.

Nope, you just add a line of code to your startup commands in DDWRT and it will do the work for you each time the router reboots. And in terms of IPs changing, sky is pretty much static based on MAC address very similar to Virgin

btw there isnt going to be a "a full belt and braces fix" - routers dont natively support MAC Encapsulated Routing

qasdfdsaq 03-10-2012 15:46

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35480179)
craig you can add my graph to yours, I dont know where you got all those from tho.

He started off just copying all of mine.

---------- Post added at 15:45 ---------- Previous post was at 15:44 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35480632)
I just wish I could bin their crappy router as it's absolute bobbins and a real weak point in an otherwise strong chain.

This sounds oddly familiar in relation to a certain other ISP... :D

---------- Post added at 15:46 ---------- Previous post was at 15:45 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35480697)
Are you saying Sky's encryption has now been cracked to allow any 3rd party router as long as DDWRT can be used.

It's not encryption, it's just a new(er) standard that not many people are using yet.

craigj2k12 03-10-2012 15:50

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35480748)
He started off just copying all of mine.

They werent yours in the first place :p:

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35480748)
This sounds oddly familiar in relation to a certain other ISP... :D

I wouldnt say the rest of VMs service as "a strong chain"

pabscars 03-10-2012 15:59

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35480745)
Nope, you just add a line of code to your startup commands in DDWRT and it will do the work for you each time the router reboots. And in terms of IPs changing, sky is pretty much static based on MAC address very similar to Virgin

btw there isnt going to be a "a full belt and braces fix" - routers dont natively support MAC Encapsulated Routing

You make it sound strait forward but you lost me at "nope", I don't want to derail this thread too much but would you be ok to take this to PM at some point in the future.

qas,,,,,,, it does sound somewhat familiar :D, and in all honesty it's not as bad as it could be, the sagemcom wireless range is OK, and it doesnt reboot or lock up, but I have had the odd corrupt download and when I start hosting large multiplayer matches on line with my buddies you can sense the router going into meltdown.

I get selected as host a lot these days (MW3 via xbox/PS3) but when this happens the router gets bogged down and the game plays like tripe for me, any other time it's fine so I'm being a tad harsh on it tbh.

qasdfdsaq 03-10-2012 18:28

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35480753)
They werent yours in the first place :p:

All of mine were mine.

craigj2k12 03-10-2012 19:16

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35480836)
All of mine were mine.

mine mine whine whine me mu diddums

Chrysalis 03-10-2012 20:04

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35480836)
All of mine were mine.

wow how many prioperties you own for all those cable connections?

qasdfdsaq 04-10-2012 00:54

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
All of mine were mine, everyone else's cable connections were not mine.

RealDiamond 07-10-2012 09:48

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Finaly the speed slow down bump is gone..
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Nice and flat again...
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

craigj2k12 07-10-2012 19:02

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Looks like VM are in a national cock up again

ianch99 07-10-2012 19:34

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Todays graph:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...07-10-2012.png

Any advice on what I can do (apart from leave)?

thenry 07-10-2012 19:37

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
email the CEO

Quote:

neil.berkett@virginmedia.co.uk

horseman 07-10-2012 20:18

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RealDiamond (Post 35482343)

Yes but I suspect you'll find this minimal latency "tumuli" only appeared on TBB and not "F8lure"?
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/65.png
Did you get any minimal latency peaks this evening eg?:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/66.png
whereas "f8lure" gave:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/67.png

craigj2k12 07-10-2012 21:48

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Different route, still indicates a problem at VMs end seeing as No other ISP saw the bump to TBB (see my sig)

horseman 08-10-2012 02:58

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35482648)
Different route, still indicates a problem at VMs end seeing as No other ISP saw the bump to TBB (see my sig)

Not necessarily a problem per se, but unless this is also reflected in TCP/UDP it may only show VM's transit link via UK-LINX is merely de-prioritised for ICMP traffic only?
Admittedly that still may well of course indicate VM are potentially on the verge of saturating that specific transit link anyway?

kwikbreaks 08-10-2012 09:49

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Looks like the speed humps have returned...

Both on NRTE25. I wasn't even at home.


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...07-10-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...07-10-2012.png

Kymmy 08-10-2012 09:56

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
I don't think that was a local problem as I had it as well

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...07-10-2012.png

Martin_D 08-10-2012 11:49

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
I had it as well in Uddingston

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/20.png

---------- Post added at 11:49 ---------- Previous post was at 10:42 ----------

How is the Minimum Latency in the Uddingston network more than the rest on virgin network

craigj2k12 08-10-2012 13:52

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35482732)
I don't think that was a local problem as I had it as well

as i said above

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35482648)
Different route, still indicates a problem at VMs end seeing as No other ISP saw the bump to TBB (see my sig)


Kymmy 08-10-2012 14:00

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35482790)
as i said above


Never said otherwise, just said it wasn't a local problem (as in his router/cabinet or UBR)

craigj2k12 08-10-2012 16:44

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
I did say

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35482574)
Looks like VM are in a national cock up again

:p:

RealDiamond 09-10-2012 00:28

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
New spike hit after 9.30pm... on 8/10/2012
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...08-10-2012.png

kwikbreaks 09-10-2012 02:12

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Mine too.

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

This has been happening on and off for weeks now and it's way past the time any major ISP should have got it sorted out. As I'm mostly away from home now it doesn't bother me personally but it must surely be screwing up millions of VM's customers on a regular basis - or doesn't it have any real-world impact - as I said I'm not home to notice.

craigj2k12 09-10-2012 02:22

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Once again, just VM

Ping-o-tron 5000

kwikbreaks 09-10-2012 03:04

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Plusnet+ others?

From your ping-o-tron

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/61.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/62.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/63.png

Plus many others on there

Chrysalis 09-10-2012 19:29

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
so many core network spikes now hard to tell if ubr overload or core overblow.

---------- Post added at 19:29 ---------- Previous post was at 19:23 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35483030)
Mine too.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...08-10-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...08-10-2012.png

This has been happening on and off for weeks now and it's way past the time any major ISP should have got it sorted out. As I'm mostly away from home now it doesn't bother me personally but it must surely be screwing up millions of VM's customers on a regular basis - or doesn't it have any real-world impact - as I said I'm not home to notice.

that kind of base latency jump would be noticeable, plus my speedtest last night of under 5mbit I think was during this period.

craigj2k12 09-10-2012 20:17

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35483036)
Plusnet+ others?

Nope.... The plusnet ones are caused by something different, there seems to be congestion on plusnets side on the route to TBB, as that spike is there every night

koesac 09-10-2012 20:22

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Hi Guys,

This is our VM 60Mb line (recently doubled). We have been suffering peak time outages for about two years. I don't know much about how to read the graph but this looks pretty bad to me. The red section was an outage which lasted until we reset the Superhub (new and in modem mode).

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/60.png

RealDiamond 09-10-2012 20:25

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
The 6.30PM + speed slow down and ping Bump is back. after a weekend free.
( Which is strange as that should be the most over loaded time... As the kids are off school all day. )

MaverickJesus 09-10-2012 20:29

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
It only occurs with TBB graphs, all the other graphs I have are fine.

RealDiamond 09-10-2012 20:33

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35483263)
It only occurs with TBB graphs, all the other graphs I have are fine.

The web sites are not slowing down by luck, got massive slow down. Due to increased ping and complete blank white pages in the browser as it sits there with circle spinning waiting for a possible time out...

alwaysabear 09-10-2012 21:47

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Never seen my monitor like this before.

RealDiamond 09-10-2012 21:50

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35483287)
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-10-2012.png
Never seen my monitor like this before.

Yep thats the Ping bump ive had weekdays from 6.30PM its back...

LenMackin 10-10-2012 09:47

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Here's mine. I am already pursing this in another thread but essentially been getting regular service dropouts here in Warwick area for over a week now.

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

roughbeast 10-10-2012 10:05

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
I got the same 'blip' as everybody else. I can't say we noticed any drop in service, although I did no speedtest during that period.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/03/18.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35483263)
It only occurs with TBB graphs, all the other graphs I have are fine.

Is this evidence of VM's notorious connection to TBB?

Stephen 10-10-2012 10:23

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
There was a fault in my area last night. G31, now looking at the graph before the fault the chart is all over the place but after the service came back its been steady as a rock. You can see before the total fail of the service that the chart got a lot worse in respect to latency. Now its a lot lower and steady.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-10-2012.png
Not sure if they were doing a bit of work as the speed doubling was completed last week.

Although I do notice that everyone seems to have a similar blip around 8-10pm last night.

Chrysalis 10-10-2012 14:02

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
LooooL at last night.

I have asked tbb to do a story on it to get some media attention.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-10-2012.png

This is just very sad as its happening during a time when VM are running TWO forms of traffic management and they still cant get it right.

---------- Post added at 14:02 ---------- Previous post was at 13:59 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35483263)
It only occurs with TBB graphs, all the other graphs I have are fine.

it affects iplayer, speedtest.net london server, my .nl traffic is affected. Probably more as well.

tdadyslexia 10-10-2012 14:19

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Live Graph
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/12/59.png

:confused: I have the same speed bump, the same as a number of you had!

Gobble 10-10-2012 14:28

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Got me wondering now... I've re-enabled mine from ages ago and will see if I get the hump of doom.

craigj2k12 10-10-2012 14:30

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Can I point you to the ping-o-tron 3000 again, another VM issue. If it happens again could someone do a few tracert's around the country

Also, if anyone has any live graphs to add to my collection, you know where to find me

joglynne 10-10-2012 15:42

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-10-2012.png

Being curious I installed the monitor yesterday after reading this thread and it appears that I also get the 6pm/10pm thingy.

Other than that period am I right in thinking my connection is pretty much OK? (I don't game other than hardcore games of solitaire :D)

data0002 10-10-2012 15:59

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
here are mine for the last 24hrs

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-10-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-10-2012.png

Qtx 10-10-2012 18:39

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Same here in south London

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-10-2012.png

thenry 10-10-2012 18:41

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
07/10/2012
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

08/10/2012
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

09/10/2012
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

LenMackin 10-10-2012 18:58

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Here is mine from a few minutes ago. Came home to another dropped connection. This is getting ridiculous. Like others.. if you look to the left of the chart you can see the where the bump tails off about 10pm last night.

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

craigj2k12 10-10-2012 19:00

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Could you all send me live links so I can add them to the 'Super ping a tron 3000 ultra turbo mega deluxe edition' :D

(See my sig)

Risco 10-10-2012 20:16

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
There is clearly a network issue, it has gone laggy at the same time as last night with the spikes.

qasdfdsaq 10-10-2012 20:38

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35483512)
Could you all send me live links so I can add them to the 'Super ping a tron 3000 ultra turbo mega deluxe edition' :D

(See my sig)

You need people to send you links? Amateur.

Oh and to put things in perspective, TBB have had some transit issues to BT recently as well, e.g. a few days ago:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...08-10-2012.png

Although in BT's case it seemed to randomly affect certain IP ranges and not be service or area specific unlike on VM.

RealDiamond 10-10-2012 20:38

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35483512)
Could you all send me live links so I can add them to the 'Super ping a tron 3000 ultra turbo mega deluxe edition' :D

(See my sig)

live versions( if you meant it)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/03/41.png
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/58.png

Stephen 10-10-2012 20:46

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
My 100Mb has gone mental again tonight.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/57.png

YouTube is very slow and lots of buffering.

alwaysabear 10-10-2012 21:05

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
I have a speed bump again. Up and down load speeds are unaffected.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-10-2012.png

ileikcaek 10-10-2012 21:11

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/56.png

Seems to be an almost daily occurance now and my ping has gone up to 60ms from the usual 7ms, speed down to 94 down 7 up and the speed drop and ping increase always happens alongside the peak in the graph so VM must have a serious issue somewhere. It's not just the graphs that show the issue as pretty much everything slows down including general web browsing. :mad:

Edit: speed down to 55 down 6 up with 72ms ping now.

Qtx 10-10-2012 21:26

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Have the same spike too in south london too.

tdadyslexia 10-10-2012 23:58

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Live Graph
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/12/59.png

I have the same speed bump, the same as a number of you had!

ferretuk 11-10-2012 00:04

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Likewise

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-10-2012.png

craigj2k12 11-10-2012 00:28

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35483556)
You need people to send you links? Amateur.

I could get them myself but why not make life easier for myself?

qasdfdsaq 11-10-2012 01:01

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
It's easier to not have to ask and just copy the ones they've already posted?

roughbeast 11-10-2012 06:17

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
I've had the same bump 2 days running now.

Gobble 11-10-2012 09:22

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Well I never... Looks like I have the ol' hump of doom as well. Can I just ask though, as I wasn't around to diagnose this further. Is this issue only happening with TBB, or if I was to do a ping test again BBC for e.g. would the results during this time reflect what the TBB monitor is saying?

Also, for the record, this is in Leeds, 100 Meg (xxl package with 5 meg up) with the router in modem mode and plugged into an Rt-N56U.

craigj2k12 11-10-2012 11:34

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35483636)
It's easier to not have to ask and just copy the ones they've already posted?

Stop being akward, just cause mines better than yours :D

kwikbreaks 11-10-2012 15:35

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Most posted will be to show up some issue or other at a given time so won't be live graphs which is what was requested.

craigj2k12 11-10-2012 16:02

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
You can take the date out the link and get the live graph, which is what I did for a lot of the original set, but its long hard work and much easier to open a message which contains the live link ;)

Stephen 11-10-2012 16:21

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
So its seems that between 8pm and 10pm there is something happening on the network as many people from different parts of the country are having the same issue.

jempalmer 11-10-2012 16:49

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Just looked at mine for the first time in ages:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-10-2012.png

craigj2k12 11-10-2012 18:00

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35483802)
So its seems that between 8pm and 10pm there is something happening on the network as many people from different parts of the country are having the same issue.

Its unique to Virgin Customers as I have mentioned. If it happens again tonight, could a few people run tracert's to pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com

then we can see whats happening, my moneys on congestion at a linx peering point ;)

qasdfdsaq 11-10-2012 18:58

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
It's not unique to Virgin customers, it just affects Virgin customers universally.

There are similar issues with BT as well, it's just a lot more random and doesn't affect everybody. In BT's case the problem occurs on TBB's network.

RealDiamond 11-10-2012 19:29

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
OK
KNOCK ON WOOD
chucks salt over shoulder
Its 7.30pm and ping is normal more important website speeds are normal.

alwaysabear 11-10-2012 19:45

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
And here we go again! Mirrors exactly what has now happened three nights in a row. There must be something wrong in VM's network.
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Qtx 11-10-2012 19:46

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

W:\>time
The current time is: 19:39:20.45
Enter the new time:

W:\>pathping pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com

Tracing route to pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 mainstation [192.168.0.2]
1 10.89.184.1
2 croy-core-1a-ge339.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.224.213]
3 croy-core-2a-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.82]
4 brnt-bb-1a-ae9-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.226.1]
5 brnt-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.174.226]
6 brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.50]
7 telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.74]
8 linx-gw2.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.236.240]
9 gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
10 pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]

Computing statistics for 250 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 VMcustomer [192.168.0.2]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 10.89.184.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 17ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% croy-core-1a-ge339.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.224.213]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 16ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% croy-core-2a-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.82]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 20ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% brnt-bb-1a-ae9-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.226.1]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 22ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% brnt-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.174.226]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 20ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.50]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 20ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.74]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 53ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% linx-gw2.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.236.240]
0/ 100 = 0% |
9 52ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
0/ 100 = 0% |
10 60ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]

Trace complete.
For a baseline at the start of tonights bump

joglynne 11-10-2012 19:49

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Mine appears to be a copy of yours alwaysabear

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/08/1.png

SnoopZ 11-10-2012 19:53

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35483899)
And here we go again! Mirrors exactly what has now happened three nights in a row. There must be something wrong in VM's network.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-10-2012.png

Yes mine looks pretty much identical to yours.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-10-2012.png

alwaysabear 11-10-2012 19:53

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35483901)
Mine appears to be a copy of yours alwaysabear

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/08/1.png

Yes it is, I am in Essex and I have seen quiet a few from all around the country, looks like the whole network that is affected.

GrimUpNorth 11-10-2012 19:56

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/54.png


Tracing route to pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms my.router [192.168.1.1]
2 19 ms 13 ms 20 ms cpc2-wake8-2-0-gw.barn.cable.virginmedia.com [77.97.161.1]
3 14 ms 24 ms 16 ms brad-core-2b-xe-311-712.network.virginmedia.net[81.97.80.149]
4 10 ms 11 ms 13 ms leed-bb-1b-ae6-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.97.80.121]
5 11 ms 12 ms 15 ms leed-bb-1a-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.187.185]
6 13 ms 17 ms 85 ms brnt-bb-1b-as2-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.175.26]
7 15 ms 15 ms 33 ms brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.50]
8 15 ms 24 ms 15 ms telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.74]
9 18 ms 20 ms 16 ms linx-gw2.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.236.240]
10 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
11 65 ms 75 ms 75 ms pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]
Trace complete.

Cheers

Grim

craigj2k12 11-10-2012 20:03

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
That doesnt explain much, maybe its a problem at the server farm, with ncuk?

roughbeast 11-10-2012 20:17

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Evidence that TBB is at least partly responsible for the evening blip. Compare the last steps to TBB with that of BBC.co.uk Until that point the Virgin network has no issues that I can see. Please tell me if I am wrong. Speed test TBB only 45Mb. NAMESCO = 104Mb. Time now is 8.17 pm

I will repeat identical tests tomorrow before 6 am.


Tracing route to pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms REDDWARF [192.168.1.1]
2 5 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.14.112.1
3 6 ms 19 ms 7 ms brhm-core-2b-ae3-1179.network.virginmedia.net [2
13.106.229.225]
4 34 ms 8 ms 9 ms brhm-bb-1b-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.174.77]
5 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms manc-bb-1a-as6-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.185.134]
6 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms brnt-bb-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43
.163.86]
7 15 ms 16 ms 14 ms brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
5.159.50]
8 17 ms 15 ms 16 ms telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
185.74]
9 16 ms 15 ms 16 ms linx-gw2.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.236.240]
10 18 ms 16 ms 16 ms gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.9
7.9]
11 102 ms 103 ms 105 ms pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]

Trace complete.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-10-2012.png

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms REDDWARF [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 7 ms 5 ms 10.14.112.1
3 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms brhm-core-2b-ae3-1179.network.virginmedia.net [2
13.106.229.225]
4 9 ms 7 ms 9 ms brhm-bb-1b-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.174.77]
5 8 ms 18 ms 7 ms brhm-bb-1a-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.185.153]
6 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.185.85]
7 27 ms 16 ms 16 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
174.18]
8 14 ms 15 ms 16 ms pos6-1.rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.237]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms ae1.er01.rbsov.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.46]
11 19 ms 16 ms 18 ms 132.185.255.60
12 14 ms 21 ms 15 ms 212.58.241.131

Trace complete.

Qtx 11-10-2012 20:18

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

W:\>time
The current time is: 20:07:59.22
Enter the new time:

W:\>pathping pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com

Tracing route to pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 VMcust [192.168.0.2]
1 10.89.184.1
2 croy-core-1a-ge339.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.224.213]
3 croy-core-2a-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.82]
4 brnt-bb-1a-ae9-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.226.1]
5 brnt-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.174.226]
6 brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.50]
7 telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.74]
8 linx-gw2.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.236.240]
9 gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
10 pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]

Computing statistics for 250 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 VMcust [192.168.0.2]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 10.89.184.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 23ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% croy-core-1a-ge339.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.224.213]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 21ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% croy-core-2a-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.82]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 23ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% brnt-bb-1a-ae9-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.226.1]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 25ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% brnt-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.174.226]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 23ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.50]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 22ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.74]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 91ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% linx-gw2.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.236.240]
0/ 100 = 0% |
9 86ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
0/ 100 = 0% |
10 86ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]

Trace complete.
So the problem is one end of that peering link. The standard VM support reply would be that the latency shows as being off their network...

Sephiroth 11-10-2012 20:20

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-10-2012.png

Anybody sussed this yet? Doesn't seem so.

jamonymo 11-10-2012 20:21

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LenMackin (Post 35483350)
Here's mine. I am already pursing this in another thread but essentially been getting regular service dropouts here in Warwick area for over a week now.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-10-2012.png

for just over a week my internet keeps losing conection just like yours some times for 5 mins and some times for an hour


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-10-2012.png

roughbeast 11-10-2012 20:26

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
:blush: Whoops error. Accidentally repeated post. Now DELETED

Qtx 11-10-2012 20:29

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Can't understand why we have similar routes near the peering but my pings increase at a different point to you. Very strange!

Sirius 11-10-2012 20:39

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Seems to be a common trend then

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/53.png

qasdfdsaq 11-10-2012 21:07

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35483913)
That doesnt explain much, maybe its a problem at the server farm, with ncuk?

Cockup on the outbound path from the hosting network. Not surprising as that's the direction most traffic flows in for most hosting providers.

roughbeast 11-10-2012 21:09

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35483937)

Just been on to Bangalore :rolleyes: Ending up speaking a slow Indian accent. Why do I keep doing that?

Anyway, I explained to CS guy about the repeated blip; how it appears and disappears abruptly nation-wide almost as if someone was throwing a switch. He said it was probably because of high usage during that time! I agreed, but also said that didn't explain its abruptness. Surely the blip would commence gradually as folk got home from work and then would tail off as users went to bed. He offered to send a technician! I growled at this point and repeated what I had said in an even slower manner, and added that I have friends all over the country observing the same thing.

He has escalated the problem and has promised that I will get a phone call from higher up; from the Himalayas I guess. :D He thanked me for my technical observations as we said our bye byes.

craigj2k12 11-10-2012 21:14

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35483950)
Cockup on the outbound path from the hosting network. Not surprising as that's the direction most traffic flows in for most hosting providers.

define cockup

4 or 5 days in a row, or whatever its been itsnt a cockup, its a pattern. You think a website hosted with NCUK are releasing TV episodes or something at that time causing massive amounts of data to saturate NCUK's bandwidth?

---------- Post added at 21:14 ---------- Previous post was at 21:13 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35483952)
Just been on to Bangalore :rolleyes: Ending up speaking a slow Indian accent. Why do I keep doing that?

Anyway, I explained to CS guy about the repeated blip; how it appears and disappears abruptly nation-wide almost as if someone was throwing a switch. He said it was probably because of high usage during that time! I agreed, but also said that didn't explain its abruptness. Surely the blip would commence gradually as folk got home from work and then would tail off as users went too bed. He offered to send a technician! I growled at this point and repeated what I had said in an even slower manner, and added that I have friends all over the country observing the same thing.

He has escalated the problem and has promised that I will get a phone call from higher up; from the Himalayas I guess. :D He thanked me for my technical observations as we said our bye byes.

is it actually service affecting? looks like just an issue between TBB and VM

Qtx 11-10-2012 21:24

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35483956)
is it actually service affecting? looks like just an issue between TBB and VM

Its not just to TBB. Just a random site that happens to use a similar route.... blackhatworld.com

Gets slow around the same time, same place for the ping increase too.

Sephiroth 11-10-2012 21:41

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
It's affecting my upstream noticeably. So I'd say service affecting.

---------- Post added at 21:41 ---------- Previous post was at 21:33 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35483950)
Cockup on the outbound path from the hosting network. Not surprising as that's the direction most traffic flows in for most hosting providers.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-10-2012.png

What cockup on the outbound path?

roughbeast 11-10-2012 21:44

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35483956)

is it actually service affecting? looks like just an issue between TBB and VM

It grieves me to say so, but I have just run a series of speed tests Speedtest.net/NAMESCO and I am getting < 40Mb. Also on Wolfenstein Enemy Territory my ping is >100Ms; worse than the average 40Ms for other players.

I reckon we are getting a mixed effect/cause here. VM's connection to TBB has never been that good, so it will sometimes appear relatively bad. However, this does not explain the abrupt arrival and disappearance of the blip each evening. Neither does it explain some of the service effects that others and now I have been reporting. Is someone throwing a switch? Is it an automated and timed response to expected congestion issues aimed at avoiding wholesale outages, but at the qualitative expense of everybody's evening service?

qasdfdsaq 11-10-2012 21:45

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35483966)
What cockup on the outbound path?

NCUK => VM. One of the multiple links is saturated in one direction.

jamonymo 11-10-2012 21:51

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
you tube videos loading slowly thats why i looked at my tbg so there must be a problem

roughbeast 11-10-2012 22:02

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
This is crap!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/52.png

Yesterday normal test.

http://speedtest.net/result/2232556702.png

Also my blip looks worse than it's ever been this evening. This is the first evening I have had effects.

qasdfdsaq 11-10-2012 22:10

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Youtube videos always load slowly.

Even on the 10Gbit at work they're loading slowly.

Qtx 11-10-2012 22:11

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
My upload speed is fine but download is screwed

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/51.png


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 17:34.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum