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As long as both phones are set up for it. It's the same sort of thing as Blackberry messenger. And I don't think you get charged for imessages

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Yup, no charge (other than whatever data you use).

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Cool. Thanks for that info.

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Does anyone know of a good mediaplayer for the iPhone 5? I used to use GoodPlayer, but it seems the author has had to drop AC3 support. I also need support for various video and sound formats including MKV.

HD and Airplay support would be a bonus.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I got an iPhone 5 on Sunday. 64GB Black. 16GB just wasn't enough anymore, due to iTunes Match increasing the size of my music library and due to apps getting bigger and bigger.

Ditched O2 and moved to Three. Far better upfront prices than the other networks, and unlimited data. Although I never went near my data allowance with O2, that was because I *had* a data allowance and so was always wary of using 3G too much. Now, though, I can enable Mobile Data for iTunes Match and Auto Downloads and Facetime, and also use 3G to download apps and stream video and so on, all without worrying about getting stung with excess charges.

Impressed with it so far. Not a radically different design, but still looks good and it's very fast. Now I have the space, I can re-download all the stuff I had to delete from my previous iPhone to make room for iTunes Match, and will still have plenty spare for more apps and videos.

Still trying to find the perfect case, though. I got a cheapo Terrapin thing from Amazon, but it was so rigid I dared not even try to fit it, in case it scratched the scratch-prone anodised aluminium it's meant to protect. Currently using a hard shell from Proporta. Simple thing that just covers the sides and back. No lip on the front to provide "face down" protection, but there's no way I'd ever lay my iPhone face down anyway. Got a cheap neoprene sock thing ("Shocksock") on the way, to protect it in my pocket and while travelling (past iPhones have had quite dusty and dirty ports and speakers from frequent pocket placement), although I'm tempted to get a wool felt sleeve from Laptoptailors.com.

Others have also dropped AC3 support. Apparently a patent issue, from the comments.


I use AVPlayer (iPhone) and AVPlayerHD (iPad). Brilliant apps, but... they no longer exist :confused:

Two alternatives I've found are CineXPlayer (iPhone) / CineXPlayerHD (iPad) and OPlayer (iPhone) / OPlayerHD (iPad).

Never used them, though, so can't vouch for what they are like.

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The flip case on my 4s is from Proporta, aluminium front and back, covered in lightly padded leather. Fantastic quality and makes it feel pretty damn safe! Excellent after-sales service too. The stitching came out of my first one and I'd lost the paperwork for it and it was a present from someone I couldn't get the details from but I called them up and they accepted it no problem and even replaced it with the next model up.

Pricey though - £30 ish - but it's very good quality and the service was second to none.

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edit: - this one

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Yeah, I've seen the 5 version on the website. I think I had a Proporta case for my old XDA thingy.

I quite like the shell case I've got from Proporta. Basic, but does what I want (cover the sides and back). May have a look at the leather thing later on.


I almost got a shell case + front cover (book style thing) by Tech21 (I think), but read a review saying it caused scratches.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I bought an Otterbox Defender for the iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 - both gave extremely good protection, specially when I accidentally dropped one in water...

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I used to have an Otterbox Defender for my iPhone 4. Excellent protection, but it added too much bulk. I also found that the built-in screen protector membrane thing got quite dirty.

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I'm sure there are already people here who use it, but in case there are some who don't...


Any non-O2 iPhone users miss or want Visual Voicemail? (probably the only good thing about having an iPhone on O2!)

Then try HulloMail:

HulloMail (free)

HulloMail (£5.99 sub. for extra features)


3rd party visual voicemail app. Works with Three, Orange, T-Mobile, Vodafone, O2, Talk Mobile, Giff Gaff, and O2 Simplicity if you're on a contract, and works with Three, Giff Gaff, and Talk Mobile for PAYG.

Uses conditional call forwarding (that should come out of your inclusive minutes) for voicemail instead of your network's voicemail store. The app then receives push notifications of new voicemail and lists them just like proper visual voicemail... but with other features such as having the voicemail emailed to you, plus you get more control over it all. You can also access it the old way via a voice call if you want, or you can be secure and disable that completely. You can also use the web portal to access your voicemail if you want, or again you can disable that completely.

As I ditched O2 for Three, I've lost visual voicemail... I set this up last night, and have been very impressed so far :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Well, Visual Voicemail is officially coming to all the Everything Everywhere brands in the new year..

http://www.tekcore.co.uk/2012/09/14/...email-in-2013/

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It's unreal how VV isn't implemented on all carriers for all platforms by now, though I'm sure Orange has been loving its 35p a minute Voicemail line.

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I've just got the IPhone5. :)

Now I want to give my IPhone4 to a family member and I'm going to get it unlocked from O2 this week.
The person I'm giving it to currently has a phone on monthly contract with Orange.
Does anyoneknow if it is easy to just switch over a contract to the IPhone and get a smaller Sim for it?

Thanks.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Get a SIM cutter from Amazon or such then you don't have to tell the network anything.

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Seconded, just get a cheap cutter, even the new Galaxy S3 and Note 2 take the micro sim, it looks like most new phones in the future will be micro sim.

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A bargain on ebay...

LINKY

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I've just got this case for the IPhone5.

It looks good and keeps it protected:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/KAVAJ-leathe...im_computers_6

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I'm still using this hard shell from Proporta:

http://www.proporta.com/product/ipho...se-hard-shells


... and I also have this from LaptopTailors:

http://www.laptoptailors.com/product..._ipod/iphone5/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Google Maps with voice navigation and turn by turn directions has been quietly released on iOS.

https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/goog...585027354?mt=8

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Pretty well buried in the App Store and no iPad spec version yet...

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I kind of guessed Apple wouldn't promote it very well :D

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In Apple's defence, neither have Google.

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Finally! :D

I'm sure it'll be updated for the iPad soon enough. The Google+ and YouTube apps started out as iPhone-only at first, before being updated to be "Universal".

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Is there something wrong again with the iPhone 4S? The battery goes down 2 fast

Re: The iPhone thread
 

What iOS version are you running and how much do you use it? And what apps have you got installed?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Hi I've got the iPhone 4S my calendar auto delete past events. Is there a way to stop it?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Should be a setting the calendar sync settings.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

If you are using Outlook & iTunes to sync, connect your iPhone to iTunes, highlight it then click on the info tab. You then have a choice under the Sync Calendars with Outlook of not to sync events older than a certain number of days which you choose

Re: The iPhone thread
 

A couple of things to say..

iOS 6.1 is out. http://www.tuaw.com/2013/01/28/ios-6...-for-download/.

This update does the following:

• iTunes match subscribers can now download individual songs.
• US based users can use Siri to buy tickets through the Fandango movie service.
• LTE support for more carriers.
• Users can now reset their advertising identifier.
• If you have music playing, on the lock screen you can press home twice to bring up playback controls without unlocking the phone.
• External apps can now call on Apple maps to provide info on local and not so local points of interest.
• Apple maps now has a big report problems button instead of a link.

Also, Everything Everywhere has launched their Visual Voicemail service on the iPhone 5. Not sure if it's EE specific, or being offered to those on Orange and T Mobile tariffs, but to activate it, you need to text "iPhone visual" to 150. It apparently takes up to 24 hours to activate.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...ail-on-ee.html

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I swear I've had that for about 5 years.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

It's not been a feature of the iPhone, and this is an iPhone thread.

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It has been a feature on the iPhone for a while, it just looks slightly different now...

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Tweetbot (the best Twitter client available) has just been updated.

Among the new features are...the option to open links in Chrome or 1Password instead of Safari :)

The various Google apps already have the ability to open links in Chrome instead of Safari, so it's great that we're seeing other devs add the same function. Helps get around the inability to set a default browser (one of the few remaining things that would tempt me to Jailbreak).

Tweetbot (iPhone & iPod Touch)

Tweetbot (iPad)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

TED 2013: Uchek app tests urine for medical issues

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21586082

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The YouTube app for iOS has been updated with the ability to pair it with another device and then send video to that device and control it. Works with the Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, and smart TVs.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Hmm - power/sleep button stopped working on my iPhone 4....

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New budget model?The cynic in me wonders whether it'll just be a cosmetic makeover with a crippled iOS and they'll just take a hit on their profits to gain market share...


Link

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I don't get the point of a separate cheaper iPhone, the current reduce the old model, model, seems to work fine.

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GTA III for iOS has been updated with...

- iPhone 5 screen support.

- iCloud save game support.

- Custom playlists... Just create a playlist in iTunes called "GTA3" to be able to use it in the game.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Big UI change, think its time for me to finally get one.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

IOS 7 looks like a mash up of WP8 and android stuff.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Nice they got background updating at last, that's pretty much why I switched to Android.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

When will be IOS 7 Becoming out? I much prefer the 1 we got now

Re: The iPhone thread
 

September/October.

Sneak peak iOS7

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Looks like MeeGo.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Looks pretty cool but I hope it fixes the battery drain problems that appeared in 6.1

Re: The iPhone thread
 

There's a market for an iPhone that has the capabilities to use the internet and camera, with some limited space for apps on.

£600 for the current 32gb is too much (529 for 16gb).

And on contract they are all 24 month deals which are too long, by which time 2 new generations would be released.

A shorter contract on "sim only" is cheaper option.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Only one model would have been released since, the second would arrive as your contact ended.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Just updated my iPad Mini to iOS 7. Not to bad TBF. Need more playing time with it me thinks thou

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I'm tempted, but have been put off by, well, it being a beta. Lots of reports of apps not working plus devices crashing and general instability... which is fair enough really as it's still an early beta. Maybe when it gets to beta 3 or 4...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Well Sky Go doesn't work and quite a few crashes at mo so I'm going to go back to iOS 6 I think

Re: The iPhone thread
 

We'll, I've been using ios 7. I've found a few apps that either don't work at all (such as Wikipanion) or rarely work (apple's podcasting app), but most apps I have found do work, and I've found good substitutes for those that don't (such as iCatcher for podcasts).

The downside is that the phone reboots far more than it should, but it's far more stable than iOS 6 was at this stage, and also less power hungry (although I'm hoping that will improve, as power efficiency usually improves somewhat as the betas progress).

Personally, I feel that iOS 6 looks old fashioned now, and if I went back, I'd miss the increasingly Google Now like notification centre and the quick access control panel that you can use to control the volume, Wifi, Bluetoth, Airplane mode and a couple of other things from any app.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I have sold out and am returning to iPhone - tomorrow hopefully.

The last one I had was ios5 so I'm expecting good stuff, but what I was wondering was does anyone have a good idea of when ios7 is released - from the YouTube videos it does look better than 6.

Mind you I guess it doesn't matter that much as long as the accessibility is still just as good as it was on my iPhone 4.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

iOS7 is due in September, with the next iPhone. The current rumours say 10th September.

I've been trying the beta - love it.

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Well in that case I'll just wait and not try the beta ;-)

Cheers.

The only thing I ever used to jail break my iPhone was to get a control centre for switching off / on things like Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. I see that's in ios 7 do that's cool.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Installing it now.....

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Wow!! I like! Not discovered everything it can do yet but I like the new layout.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Was it easy to do?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yes, very. 4s on 6.1.3 and it went like a dream. It was a bit slow to start which made a bit worried but it all went through really well. I'm liking the 'block caller' feature :)

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Also if you sweep from the bottom to the top you get a list of helpful settings such as bluetooth, wi-fi, calculator, torch etc

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Cheers. I may have to try. Just as long as I can restore to factory default if I need to

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My new shiny iPhone 5 is here :) - Just going to finish setting it up - and see why it keeps telling me it's 'Natalie's iPhone'

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Nice :)

Although...Didn't want to wait for the 5S or 5C in September?

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I don't do patience ;)

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I've since found out that it seems Apple are deactivating some handsets that have iOS 7 beta without a dev cert. No idea if that means you can do anything about it but I don't want to take the chance so I'm going back to 6.1.3 right now. Still, I've seen what iOS 7 has in store and I can't wait for the 10th - if it does come out that day :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Cheers for the heads up :tu:

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Anybody know where u can watch the event that's happening now of the new iPhone?

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iOS7 a week tomorrow :(

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iPhone 5C starts from $99 2 year contract of course

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The Verge has a live blog:

http://live.theverge.com/apple-iphone-5s-liveblog/

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Fingeprint reader will be built into the home button on iPhone 5S

Re: The iPhone thread
 

That's the American price.

UK won't be unveiled for a while yet.

SIM free UK prices are on the Apple site though.

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http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/compare/



iPhone 5C replaces the iPhone 5. Cheaper, with a plastic shell available in different colours.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/10/47...e-announcement




iPhone 5S is the new flagship model. 64bit A7 chip, improved camera, Touch ID fingerprint sensor.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/10/47...ate-price-cost

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/10/47...rprint-scanner

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/10/47...hone-processor




iWork suite (Pages, Numbers, Keynote) plus iMovie and iPhoto to be free.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/10/47...ew-ios-devices




iOS 7 to be released on the 18th of September.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/10/47...7-release-date

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pfft! we'll all be playing GTA5 :D

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Indeed, or i will at least :D:D

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SIM-free from £469. :Yikes:

Is this what Apple calls cheap?!

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Its only £80 cheaper than the iPhone 5S

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Good point! :D

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Apple have surely run out of lives now, how much longer will the punters be duped. are apple even trying anymore?

re-using the same old design, with *just* enough changes to warrant the 'new' moniker
They're rapidly getting left behind now in the areas of innovation, the magics definitely fading fast, I'll be watching the share prices closely, not expecting to see much optimism from the city.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I reckon iOS 7 will help things greatly. I only had the beta for a day or so but I loved it, can't wait for the 18th now.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The only reason I ever jail broke my iPhone 4 was to use sbsettings so I'm looking forward to iOS 7

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The trouble with Apple is they charge a bloody premium for their products.:(

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I think they got some comp with the Z1 while the camera attachment is free

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I'm in two minds about this launch.

While I can see the obvious technical advances in implementing a 64 bit computer the size of a phone, and I can see how ingenious the finger print reader is, I don't really see that either will bring a major advantage to the consumer.

To get the full advantage of 64 bit computing, the average phone will need a lot more RAM than it has today. It will also need Apps designed to take advantage of it. I find the main advantage that using 64 bit computers offers is they can process large amounts of data more efficiently than a 32 bit computer. I am talking gigs of data. While some games will undoubtedly perform better as 64 bit apps, most phones will not be in a position where they are having to process gigs of data.

Re: The Fingerprint scanner. Nice idea. Potentially more useful immediately than the 64 bit CPU, but we need to hope that the **** of the earth don't resort to taking people's fingers as well as their phones.

Also, the M7 motion processor. Not really sure where the advantage is for the consumer of merging the Compass, Accelerometer and GPS into one unit. Presumably this, together with the new CoreMotion API in iOS 7 will makes use of these devices easier for app developers, which might help improve the apps.

The Cameras, if they are improved as much as Apple say will be good, not that the iPhone 5 camera is bad. Yes, they have a lower megapixel count than some either phones but, given good quality optics and a large enough sensor (neither of which do most phones have), then the pixel count is not a good indicator of quality. You could have the highest res camera in the world, but if it has small sensor, or bad optics, you are just going to end up with very hi res bad quality images. Want proof of this? Take an image using a 12MP Compact or Phone camera. Then take the same image with a 6MP DSLR. Which looks best?

Admittedly, I like the changes to iOS 7 and, TBH, that seemed to be the main focus of the event.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Apple still fail to listen the the customers though. More and more people are looking sor larger screen, so seems short sighted for Apple to stick with 4". They also still haven't implemented an NFC chip, which I think is what is holding back the development and up take of the usage.

Also keeping to the same design and lack of real innovation I can see more people switching to android handsets.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Until we get past phones having 4 GB of RAM (which is the most that any 32bit OS can currently address) 64 bit processing is a bit... premature, good marketing potential though.


2Gig is the current RAM for flagship Android phones for example, so Google have a good 12-24 months to turn Android into a 64 bit OS before needing to worry unduly, plus apps would need to be reworked to take advantage of the new eco system too.


So to summarise... Apple 64bit.. meh

Good soundbite, little substance or value.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The design only changes every other year.

iPhone "tradition" is that one year sees a re-design plus a spec bump, while the next year sees just a spec bump.

2009 - iPhone 3GS (spec. bump)

2010 - iPhone 4 (redesign, Retina display, spec. bump)

2011 - iPhone 4S (spec. bump)

2012 - iPhone 5 (redesign, larger screen, spec. bump)

2013 - iPhone 5S (spec. bump)


2013 is the "off year" when there's just a spec. bump. The "S" release in the "off year" is always just a spec. bump using the same design.

2014 will see the release of the iPhone 6, which will, based upon past history, feature more than just a spec. bump.

There are rumours of a larger iPhone next year... However it's unlikely to be too large if true as Apple has a thing about being able to use the phone with a single hand.


I have a year left on my contract, so although I like the 5S I shall wait to see what there is next year. I'm not that gadget obsessed that I'm going to shell out ££££ now just for a fingerprint scanner.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

My contact ends on the 18th so I'm happy as it comes out on the 20th :)
Will they want a fee as I'm sure I had to pay a fee last time for the 4s?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

This is less about the iPhone and more about iOS. Apple are clearly starting the transition to all their iOS devices being 64 bit and future proofing the current iPhone even if it won't have as much memory. The iPad's will likely see the first real advantages of 64 bit processors and any living room box/tv device they do.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

There's always an upfront cost unless you get an old phone and/or very expensive tariff.

No details yet, though...

Are you aiming for a 5C or 5S?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

NFC hasn't seen much real world use. It's essentially just a spec to boast about when selling the phone but one for which the customers rarely see an advantage of. I think the fingerprint scanner might be a gateway to payments in the future but Apple may use NFC or something else to enable it.

Like 64bit the main purpose of the fingerprint reader is for the future IMO.

They do need a larger screen however.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Thanks I'm going to be getting the 5S

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NFC is, I think, a solution without a problem. People do seem to think it's useful and a good thing, but no one seems sure what it's for and why it's a good thing.

Even one of the two mainstream uses people have identified (NFC cash cards) hasn't really taken off. The other (NFC travel tickets such as Oyster) has, but even that uses primarily proprietary systems that I doubt will be moving to mobile phones anytime soon.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Stuff all this - I am hoping with iOS 7 I can change Siri's voice back into a woman's so I can flirt with my phone :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Unfortunately, that option is not present in the betas if you are using UK English. It is, if you are using US English, but then the phone might have trouble understanding you. Sort of ruins any flirting if the person you are flirting with responds with "Sorry, I am afraid I didn't get that".

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I guess I will just have to stick with the receptionist at the hospital ;)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Oyster uses RFID. It's why TFL haven't been able to move it onto phones as they're concerned the time it takes to register is still too slow for their operation to run smoothly. They have shown a willingness to let people use their phones once the technology facilities it.

I think it will payments and ticketing on phones will eventually take off and Apple will implement it but it may be something other than NFC. Apple's Passport and now fingerprint scan make me pretty certain it's coming in the near future on iPhone.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Anyone else regularly check for software updates in case iOS 7 accidentally gets released a few days early? :D

Re: The iPhone thread
 

When will u be able to pre order the iPhone 5s? Just my contract ends on the 18th of September and really want to order it so I get it on the day