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1andrew1 29-11-2021 21:21

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36103575)
and clear the French camps, stuff the French. Just hope Boris has the spine to stand up to them

French police see a boat on the beach stop them going into the sea. If they have to put a bullet in the boat. Simples

Why not let them apply for asylum from France, as France has suggested? That way, there would be no need to cross the Channel unless there was something amiss.

Jaymoss 29-11-2021 21:28

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36103577)
Why not let them apply for asylum from France, as France has suggested? That way, there would be no need to cross the Channel unless there was something amiss.

we will see if that all pans out

Carth 29-11-2021 21:43

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36103577)
Why not let them apply for asylum from France, as France has suggested? That way, there would be no need to cross the Channel unless there was something amiss.

It can take up to 6 months for a decision, and they'll stay in France until it's made.

If the decision goes against them, do/can they appeal or do they climb on a boat and hope to avoid detection when here?

Jaymoss 29-11-2021 21:44

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Yeah they really shown patience aint they. 6 Months? how many crossing attempts will they make in that time ?

1andrew1 29-11-2021 22:20

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36103580)
It can take up to 6 months for a decision, and they'll stay in France until it's made.

If the decision goes against them, do/can they appeal or do they climb on a boat and hope to avoid detection when here?

We need to speed that timescale up. If you then decide to take a boat across instead of wait, it's going to make you an unlikely asylum-seeker.

Carth 29-11-2021 23:54

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36103584)
We need to speed that timescale up. If you then decide to take a boat across instead of wait, it's going to make you an unlikely asylum-seeker.

How do you mean 'speed that timescale up'?
Surely you're not suggesting we take short cuts on the administration and investigation side of things?

Just think of the 'potential' errors if we start to rush applications . . . not to mention the shouts of Favouritism/Discrimination by those not in France, but sat waiting in English camps.

1andrew1 30-11-2021 00:35

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36103588)
How do you mean 'speed that timescale up'?
Surely you're not suggesting we take short cuts on the administration and investigation side of things?

Just think of the 'potential' errors if we start to rush applications . . . not to mention the shouts of Favouritism/Discrimination by those not in France, but sat waiting in English camps.

Employ more staff? Maybe learn from quicker countries like Germany?
Quicker does not mean poorer quality.

ianch99 30-11-2021 09:08

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
I guess this is the natural consequence of the hatred whipped up in the right wing media:

Hastings RNLI lifeboat crew ‘blocked from going out to sea’ by people angry at them rescuing refugees

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A group of people on Hastings beach reportedly shouted “horrible” abuse at the RNLI volunteer crew, according to a caller to James O’Brien’s LBC radio show on Thursday (November 25). Zoe, from Hastings, told the presenter she witnessed the group blocking the RNLI lifeboat and shouting, “don’t bring any more of those home, we’re full up, that’s why we stopped our donations, and that kind of really horrible stuff.” She added: “It was really upsetting, and you could hear the hatred in their voice.”
Farage would be proud of them ..

Sephiroth 30-11-2021 09:24

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36103600)
I guess this is the natural consequence of the hatred whipped up in the right wing media:

Hastings RNLI lifeboat crew ‘blocked from going out to sea’ by people angry at them rescuing refugees



Farage would be proud of them ..

I doubt that very much. He wasn't on last night, but maybe tonight we'll see.

mrmistoffelees 30-11-2021 10:27

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36103600)
I guess this is the natural consequence of the hatred whipped up in the right wing media:

Hastings RNLI lifeboat crew ‘blocked from going out to sea’ by people angry at them rescuing refugees



Farage would be proud of them ..

I seem to remember recently whereby an Insulate Britain protest blocked an ambulance from getting through. There were posters on here calling for the protesters to be given a good kicking.

I wonder if we'll see the same level of outrage displayed here?

1andrew1 30-11-2021 10:38

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36103600)
I guess this is the natural consequence of the hatred whipped up in the right wing media:

Hastings RNLI lifeboat crew ‘blocked from going out to sea’ by people angry at them rescuing refugees

Farage would be proud of them ..

This kind of aggressive behaviour only discourages RNLI volunteering, so the protestors are well and truly shooting themselves in the foot.

Carth 30-11-2021 12:42

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Anyone on here that lives down that way?

Just thought an 'on the spot' poster could give us an insight into the mood of the people down there that live with it daily . .

papa smurf 30-11-2021 13:54

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36103613)
Anyone on here that lives down that way?

Just thought an 'on the spot' poster could give us an insight into the mood of the people down there that live with it daily . .

We haven't seen a Viking rowing up the Humber in ages.

Carth 30-11-2021 14:09

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36103619)
We haven't seen a Viking rowing up the Humber in ages.

Nothing left to plunder mate . . . and the state of the women waving and blowing kisses from the shore put them off any recreational pastimes ;)

OLD BOY 30-11-2021 14:28

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36103564)
Exactamundo.

---------- Post added at 20:36 ---------- Previous post was at 19:32 ----------



I've tried finding it in the news (BBC, SKY, GBNews, ITV) and nix. What's the source and is it authoritative?


If I remember correctly, I heard it on Radio 4 or LBC News, but this article is the first I stumbled on that makes reference to it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...hannel-deaths/

It looks to me that France wants these migrants to be relocated over the whole of the EU, not just in France.

[EXTRACT]

…it appeared on Monday night that France is seeking an EU-wide agreement that could involve the return of Channel migrants to the continent.

Mr Darmanin called for a "balanced" accord that would offer "real solutions" for dealing with organised trafficking networks that are often spread across France, Belgium, Germany and other countries. He insisted it could not be with France alone, but with all of the EU.

"We do not want a unilateral agreement," he said after a meeting chaired by Mr Macron. "An agreement would set the framework for co-operation between Britain and bordering countries on immigration issues that were not negotiated at the time of Brexit."

The deal set to be proposed by France could include ways to ensure unaccompanied minors can safely reach Britain to rejoin their families instead of putting themselves at the mercy of traffickers, Mr Darmanin said. Britain has said the quid pro quo would be France taking back migrants.


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