Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875496)

I disagree. I have the full monty (excluding sports) and I subscribe to the Now TV pack simply to get Sky Atlantic programming. I am not alone in doing so.

I have no wish to abandon VM TV.

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35875222)

£150+ a month...wow man that's a lot.
I would speak to them and even if you have to say Sky have offered you something better, they should be able to give you a reduction..might have to sign a new contract though.

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35875506)

But, going back to 4K tv's which a lot of people will buy this Christmas, now to is still limited to 720p, the difference between 720p streaming and 1080i broadcast on a 65" 4K to is quite noticeable.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875496)

Now TV is already out there and yet VM customers still choose both.

By the way, I meant to mention that I was only meaning that the Entertainment Pack should be available as a streaming service on VM, not sports and movies.

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Why not? It's already available elsewhere. It's the stand alone channel they won't allow on other platforms, not Now TV.

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I disagree. I have the full monty (excluding sports) and I subscribe to the Now TV pack simply to get Sky Atlantic programming. I am not alone in doing so.

I have no wish to abandon VM TV.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35875502)

You and others may have no wish to abandon VM at the moment but you don't know what is around the corner. Your financial circumstances may change and instead of downgrading to the basic M pack you may decide to switch entirely to Now TV. That's easier to do if you already have a relationship with Now TV and they make you repeated great offers to switch.
You may not be alone but even 100 people on a forum is not a representative sample of VM's 3.5m TV customer base.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875496)

Now TV is already out there and yet VM customers still choose both.

By the way, I meant to mention that I was only meaning that the Entertainment Pack should be available as a streaming service on VM, not sports and movies

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35875441)

Rumour: Movie Mix to become Sony Movies on January 10th on Virgin Media UK.

Also on Freeview

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...1&postcount=14

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35875409)

Can you provide evidence of this? Not just vm say so although i will admit looking at whats been posted it does look like Sky set a high price but we don't know that.

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35875535)

How many of VM's 3.5m TV customers are Active TV customers? Most people have the TV service forcibly pushed on them and are on no higher than M or M+ package, are these people truly representative of VM customers who actively buy a TV package? I would say not.

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35875542)

Sure, there are people out there willing to pay £6.99/mth on top of their VM subs just to get Sky Atlantic / ITV Encore but it isn't good value for money. Sure, Now TV has lots of offers and the entertainment pass is available for less but with a lot of messing around chasing for deals.

There's a lot of duplication of channels available on VM within the entertainment pack, I can't see VM wanting to make it available as a Tivo app. On balance we see more people on here complaining about price increases than the lack of Sky Atlantic. Adding a service that duplicates some of what is already available in a lower cost package would just be giving Sky a free advert to attract VM customers wanting a cheaper deal.

As for a Now TV app specifically tailored to VM and excluding sports and movies. That's not what Now TV is about and there are 2 problems on that front; VM won't want it potentially stealing their customers. Sky won't want to offer a reduced package, their marketing policy is to get Now TV users to add the other packs.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35875547)

Lots used to complain about the lack of SA, but I think that they've now resigned themselves to the fact that it won't be coming.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35875502)

You and others may have no wish to abandon VM at the moment but you don't know what is around the corner. Your financial circumstances may change and instead of downgrading to the basic M pack you may decide to switch entirely to Now TV. That's easier to do if you already have a relationship with Now TV and they make you repeated great offers to switch.
You may not be alone but even 100 people on a forum is not a representative sample of VM's 3.5m TV customer base.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35875530)

I believe that in five years or so Sky will be delivering it's TV service on a platform like Now TV.

If the Fox takeover happens customers will be offered the Sky and Fox portfolio of channels with a greater prominence for On Demand.

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35875535)

How many of VM's 3.5m TV customers are Active TV customers? Most people have the TV service forcibly pushed on them and are on no higher than M or M+ package, are these people truly representative of VM customers who actively buy a TV package? I would say not.

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35875542)

Sure, there are people out there willing to pay £6.99/mth on top of their VM subs just to get Sky Atlantic / ITV Encore but it isn't good value for money. Sure, Now TV has lots of offers and the entertainment pass is available for less but with a lot of messing around chasing for deals.

There's a lot of duplication of channels available on VM within the entertainment pack, I can't see VM wanting to make it available as a Tivo app. On balance we see more people on here complaining about price increases than the lack of Sky Atlantic. Adding a service that duplicates some of what is already available in a lower cost package would just be giving Sky a free advert to attract VM customers wanting a cheaper deal.

As for a Now TV app specifically tailored to VM and excluding sports and movies. That's not what Now TV is about and there are 2 problems on that front; VM won't want it potentially stealing their customers. Sky won't want to offer a reduced package, their marketing policy is to get Now TV users to add the other packs.

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35875549)

There were a lot more complaints in the early days and disappointment at not being able to view the likes of GOT on VM. Those complaining the loudest have probably moved to Sky long ago. Of those still with VM, the demand has certainly lessened, possibly because some of these people don't want the hassle of playing catch up. Just as some VM viewers didn't continue watching "Lost" after it had been unavailable during the period that Sky basics channels were withheld from VM.

Nowadays we are as likely to see people complaining about the lack of Sony Movies and Sony's True brand channels. I wonder how many of these people will notice a significant change to their viewing patterns when MovieMix transforms into the Sony Movie Channel.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875552)

If people simply made such decisions on the basis of cost alone, they could still stay with Virgin, cancel their Sky Movies pack and get the Entertainment and Movies passes with Now TV and save money each month, but they are not doing that, are they? People are prepared to pay over the odds for Sky Atlantic in the same way that sport fans pay stupid sums each month for their fix.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875552)

If my financial services changed to the extent that I had to make a radical reduction in my TV expenses, I would be looking at all options anyway, regardless of what I could access from my Tivo. I would be likely to go for the basic Virgin package + Now TV via my Roku regardless.

I think enough people know about the Now TV option. Whether or not it is on Virgin Media is unlikely to influence existing customers to reduce their package with Virgin. Yes, there is channel duplication, but I have chosen to accept that irritation in order to access the material I want. Many VM customers are doing the same.

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Spot on, Muppetman - that is exactly what Fox are reported to be planning to do. A better streaming service along the lines of Netflix is on the cards if this deal goes through.

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Forcibly pushed on them? No way. You're thinking of the landline, surely?:confused:

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If people simply made such decisions on the basis of cost alone, they could still stay with Virgin, cancel their Sky Movies pack and get the Entertainment and Movies passes with Now TV and save money each month, but they are not doing that, are they? People are prepared to pay over the odds for Sky Atlantic in the same way that sport fans pay stupid sums each month for their fix.

These days, people may have given up going on about Sky Atlantic because Virgin do not seem to be listening. It's certainly not that they don't want it.

As for Sky not being prepared to tailor Now TV to offer only one pass on Now TV on Virgin's platform, isn't that exactly what Talk Talk did?