Cable Forum - Russia has invaded Ukraine

Not at all.

It’s all a slippery slope. Russia not being as evil as Netanyahu is a pertinent point if the state we live in, and our allies, are offering logistical support (ant best) and a moral shield (at worst) for the activities of Israel.

I’ve added the updated version of your post after my response above. Yes, removing children from warzones, including orphans, is a more desirable than killing them because “war is ugly”.

How about Putin doing neither?

TheDaddy

10-04-2025 09:40

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36194364)

I’ve said before Russia should be commended for evacuating children from warzones

By that logic Hitler should've been commended also, yes he only took the Aryian looking ones but he evacuated them never the less and also took a lot fewer than putin too. Btw over 600 Ukranian children have died post evacuation and there have been numerous reports of mistreatment and sexual abuse so I think I'll pass on commending vlad for anything, except perhaps his own death

Hugh	17-04-2025 19:55

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https://news.sky.com/story/europeans...e-war-13316417

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US joins Russia, North Korea and Belarus to vote against UN resolution on Ukraine war

The 193-member assembly approved a US-drafted resolution, marking the third anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which had originally called for an end to the conflict but did not mention Moscow's aggression.

It also made no mention of Ukraine's territorial integrity.

However, it was amended after European nations said that it should include references to Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine and the need for a lasting peace in line with the UN Charter.

It was also amended to include references to Ukraine's sovereignty…

The amended US-drafted resolution won 93 votes in favour, while 73 states abstained - including the US - and eight - including Russia - voted no.

On the same day, the UN General Assembly approved a European-backed resolution from Ukraine which demanded Russia immediately withdraw from the country.

There were also 93 votes in favour of this resolution, while 65 abstained and 18 voted against it.

The UK, France and Germany were among the countries that voted in favour of the Ukraine-backed resolution, which called for a "comprehensive, just and lasting peace in Ukraine".

The US, Russia, Belarus and North Korea were among those that opposed it

Americans at this moment…

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2025/04/4.gif

Pierre

17-04-2025 20:36

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I am in no way agreeing or supporting or anything, but just for accuracy’s sake.

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US joins Russia, North Korea and Belarus to vote against UN resolution on Ukraine war

And

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The amended US-drafted resolution won 93 votes in favour, while 73 states abstained - including the US - and eight - including Russia - voted no.

So did the US vote against…or abstain?

Hugh	17-04-2025 20:51

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36194849)

I am in no way agreeing or supporting or anything, but just for accuracy’s sake.

And

So did the US vote against…or abstain?

Yes.

Two separate motions...

From just below the headline in the link

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Two motions were passed by the UN today as the world marks the third anniversary of Russia's invasion - with the US voting against one and abstaining on another.

The US joined Russia to vote against a UN resolution on the Ukraine war - and abstained from voting on one it drafted after amendments proposed by European countries were added.

Paul	17-04-2025 21:16

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Perhaps they need a rebrand, the USAR, i.e. the United States of America & Russia.

Pierre

17-04-2025 21:20

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194851)

Yes.

Two separate motions...

From just below the headline in the link

Thanks.

1andrew1

17-04-2025 21:24

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36194852)

Perhaps they need a rebrand, the USAR, i.e. the United States of America & Russia.

As the senior party, I think Putin would order it USRA. ;)

Hugh	18-04-2025 08:55

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us-rea...ys-2025-04-18/

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PARIS, April 18 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump will walk away from trying to broker a Russia-Ukraine peace deal within days unless there are clear signs that a deal can be done, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Friday.

"We're not going to continue with this endeavour for weeks and months on end. So we need to determine very quickly now, and I'm talking about a matter of days whether or not this is doable in the next few weeks. If it is we're in. If it's not, then we have other priorities to focus on as well," Rubio said in Paris, after meeting European and Ukrainian leaders.

Rubio said Trump was still interested in a deal but was willing to move on if there were no immediate signs of progress.

Trump promised during his election campaign to end the war within his first 24 hours in the White House. He moderated that claim on taking office, suggesting a deal by April or May, as obstacles mounted.

Rubio's comments underline the mounting frustrations over a lack of progress in pushes to settle a growing list of geopolitical challenges.

papa smurf

18-04-2025 09:04

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194864)

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-rea...ys-2025-04-18/

The art of the deal in action, blowhard, bluster, then fail, what happened to end war in 24 hrs :dunce::dunce::dunce:

Chris

18-04-2025 10:36

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Trump encounters the real world and discovers he doesn’t have the cards.

I imagine they are spitting with rage behind the scenes that Europe is ramping up its efforts on Ukraine’s behalf - there is no doubt that Trump’s game plan was to end the war by neutralising Ukraine. Mind you, I don’t think even that could have worked. I don’t think Trump understands Russia’s motives. Russia has not got anywhere near to achieving what it wants to achieve in Ukraine and has no incentive to stop trying right now.

1andrew1

18-04-2025 11:33

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I hear Putes is loving China's retaliatory tariffs. They're making purchases of LNG from the US uncompetitive so China is turning to...Russia for LNG. More money for Russia's invasion kitty. What's not for him to like about Agent Orange?

pip08456

18-04-2025 11:38

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Yaroslav Trofimov
@yarotrof
So having seen the full comments by Rubio, sounds like he presented the draft deal (which would require Europeans to lift sanctions on Russia) to the Ukrainian delegation in Paris, which is taking it back to Kyiv for a Zelensky decision — and the threat of walking away is in fact primarily directed at Ukraine.

thenry

24-04-2025 15:48

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US President Donald Trump has said he is "not happy" with deadly Russian strikes on Kyiv and that President Vladimir Putin should "stop".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crld4gkk428o

Does Trump condemn Ukrainian strikes? A strike is a strike regardless who started it!

1andrew1

24-04-2025 15:57

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36195323)

Does Trump condemn Ukrainian strikes? A strike is a strike regardless who started it!

I'm somewhat surprised to see Trumpski condemning Russian strikes!

There's a first time for everything, I guess!

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